Just be careful who you park next to. Running all night next to someone who has their windows open may not be too wise!
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It is their problem really, I’m not wasting a good nights sleep just because someone else too cheap to either invest in a pod or idle fuel. Nevermind sleeping with your windows open is not something one would recommend doing in todays Europe.
Never had a qualm with anyone over sleeping with the engine on anyway.
Doesn’t that miss the point? Even with closed windows, someone running his engine next to you is very noisy and eventually the fumes seep up into your cab. Whenever anyone did this to me on the assumption that it was ‘my problem’ I ALWAYS gave a good blast on the air-horns; and it ALWAYS worked! Robert [emoji38]
I’ve been told that tapping* on the side window of the truck has the same effect.
Never seen it done, and wouldn’t recommend it though.
Yes I’m sure one can react in many different ways to a driver that chooses to idle his lorry in order to get a good nights sleep and be a safe member of the motoring public the day after.
Mumbling under one’s breath, followed by posting imaginary retorts on the internet seems to be quite a popular theme.
I did actually get woken once in Olzheim a long time ago, it was winter and the night heater had packed in.
The old polish git did a fantastic disappearing act though, once he discovered it was not another skinny Oap he had woken up.
Just be careful who you park next to. Running all night next to someone who has their windows open may not be too wise!
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It is their problem really, I’m not wasting a good nights sleep just because someone else too cheap to either invest in a pod or idle fuel. Nevermind sleeping with your windows open is not something one would recommend doing in todays Europe.
Never had a qualm with anyone over sleeping with the engine on anyway.
Ok but is it the driver’s fault if his firm is too tight arsed to provide extras?
Fair enough if you park somewhere on your own, but sounds a bit self centred tbh to say… ‘‘■■■■ him in next truck (and everybody else) as long as I get a decent kip’’.
Call me old fashioned here, but I try and empathise with other drivers who are parked up, and generally…but hey, everybody’s different I suppose.
Compared to the kind folks who think it’s fair to either blow their horn next to a sleeping driver or to even bash their window in with a brick, I’d say me preferring to sleep “at the cost of others” is still a pretty civilized way to go.
Nevermind having problems sleeping next to a truck idling would suggest one might want to consider a line of work that doesn’t include sleeping in the truck, in truckstops.
milodon:
Compared to the kind folks who think it’s fair to either blow their horn next to a sleeping driver or to even bash their window in with a brick, I’d say me preferring to sleep “at the cost of others” is still a pretty civilized way to go.
Nevermind having problems sleeping next to a truck idling would suggest one might want to consider a line of work that doesn’t include sleeping in the truck, in truckstops.
Just to clear up any misapprehensions.
I wouldnt really suggest that lobbing bricks is any way to go. Maybe my attempt at humour saying that other drivers could and would be upset at one of their neighbors having an engine ticking over all night feel the wrong way. I have been on parking areas when one truck has been ticking over in the summer, and it has upset others. Didnt phase me too much, but I can see why some others were upset. It ended with a bit of shouting and the engine being switched off. The guy who had the engine on obviously DID have a disturbed sleep, and that was the point I was attempting to make. If you`ve gotta run your engine do it away from others.
milodon:
It is their problem really, I’m not wasting a good nights sleep just because someone else too cheap to either invest in a pod or idle fuel. Nevermind sleeping with your windows open is not something one would recommend doing in todays Europe.
I cant see the logic in what youre saying here?
Youre saying its OK to sleep with an engine running because an employer wont invest in a pod, thereby disturbing the sleep of those who do have a good employer who provides a pod? Dont seem too good to me.
An idling lorry will not bother someone sleeping with closed windows.
I would also much prefer not to idle, save the children and all that, but bathing in ones own sweat is not something that should be a given, albeit eau de chaffeur is common in rdc-s all around Europe this time of year.
I have a pod but one of our lorries doesn’t so when we parked up in services and he ran his lorry all night I was nice enough to park next to him as i don’t mind the small noise. We normally found a corner and know one had a brick thrown through the window
milodon:
An idling lorry will not bother someone sleeping with closed windows.
Nonsense! The rattle of a bag of chisels (Actros for example) next to you will keep you awake. Furthermore, as I stated earlier, the fumes will seep up into your cab from the lorry next to you. Not rocket science: fact. Just don’t do it! Robert
Like I stated earlier, if one is kept awake by a diesel idling next door, best keep an eye out for a career in something else. I mean, I could understand an old fridge running full defrost, but the monotone low frequency hum of a big diesel
Only once have I experienced fumes from another lorry coming into the cab. Well there was about twenty of them, it was about -25c with not a gust of wind in the tightly packed service area. Was not a revelation of any kind, but suppose I should have turned it off and called for Volvo Action Service when it was time to roll in the morning.
My last employer was nice enough to fit all his trucks with roof pods as I think he was getting fed up with all his trucks idling excessively when it was hot.
Bear in mind we used to do a lot of work in the south of France and much if it was night work and sleeping through the day.
Unfortunately he didn’t think about his purchases too hard and bought the cheap water cooled versions. If he’d given it sufficient thought he’d have realised that having a cooling system that relies on a large water container on the back of the cab where it not only gets all the ambient heat of the day, but also has the added disadvantage of a fridge motor about 18" away kicking out heat then he would have realised what a waste of time and money it was. It didn’t cool the cab in any way at all, it just made it feel dank and sticky and still the same temperature.
I tried it twice and then went back to leaving the engine on a fast idle for as long as I was asleep.
I always used to try and be considerate as I had the fridge on anyway, I’d park the opposite way to everyone else to keep the noise away as far as I could, but as I invariably had the fridge running anyway the truck engine didn’t really make any difference to the noise.
Whilst abroad I never had a single complaint about the fridge or truck engine running, it’s only in this country that I received complaints, and that was invariably from some one who’d sought me out in the furthest away corner of the park just to park next to me so he could ask if the fridge was staying on !!!
We really do still lead the world league tables in unnecessary muppetry.
milodon:
Like I stated earlier, if one is kept awake by a diesel idling next door, best keep an eye out for a career in something else. I mean, I could understand an old fridge running full defrost, but the monotone low frequency hum of a big diesel
Only once have I experienced fumes from another lorry coming into the cab. Well there was about twenty of them, it was about -25c with not a gust of wind in the tightly packed service area. Was not a revelation of any kind, but suppose I should have turned it off and called for Volvo Action Service when it was time to roll in the morning.
Hello again Milodon! I actually have much sympathy with your ‘if you don’t like the heat in the kitchen, get out’ attitude; it is a healthy and pragmatic view of working in road transport. However, in this particular case, I have to say that in all my years on long-haul work this problem almost never arose. The self-entitled, selfish behaviour of drivers who transgressed were, IIRC, always ■■■■■■■■■■ And that included both alchy EE drivers in Europe (in more recent times) and British drivers on serious long-haul work. With the latter, you could usually brow-beat some sense into them over a glass of wine at breakfast time - lol! Honestly, this is a storm in a tea-cup as I can remember it very rarely being a problem.
milodon:
An idling lorry will not bother someone sleeping with closed windows.
Nonsense! The rattle of a bag of chisels (Actros for example) next to you will keep you awake. Furthermore, as I stated earlier, the fumes will seep up into your cab from the lorry next to you. Not rocket science: fact. Just don’t do it! Robert
Maybe the delicate snowflakes that have issues with a bit of industrial background noise should stay at home in their cosy triple-glazed houses so they can get their beauty sleep in complete peace rather than expecting everyone else to accommodate them?
I know I am very much in the minority in today’s “entitled” UK where it’s everyone else that’s to blame, but all those that whinge and whine about fridge drivers parking in the vicinity with the fridge running should try looking in the mirror to see the source of the problem ie. if you can’t sleep with noises happening in the background that are part and parcel of the job then why the ■■■■ are you doing a job that involves sleeping in a truck where you have little to no control over the environment around you? Chanting “well I was the only person here when I parked up” does not cut it. A fridge driver with a full load is just as entitled to park up for his break or daily rest and they should not be expected to go round switching their fridge units off nor spending all their time looking for a place that’s within half a mile of a snowflake tramper driver that’s chosen a job where he has to sleep in the truck .
There’s even a sizeable number of posts on this site where drivers openly admit to switching off other drivers’ fridges if they park near them. WTF is wrong with you people? If I was running the country such actions would result in a fine to the value of the load, a further fine of minimum £5000 for being an utter bellend and immediate disqualification of your vocational licence entitlements with no option to retake them.
The noise from fridge trailers has never bothered me but then I sleep in my cab with the engine running all night, in fact during my sleep I often wake up to the noise of my truck going through a regen for 10 minutes and actually expecting some irate guy knocking on my door because he has been woken up, touch wood, it has not happened yet. Also I often park in the truck park area of a Wawa store and signs all around quite plainly say “NO IDLING” as posted by New Jersey state police. I have not been bothered by them either and even woke up there one day last week to find to NJ police cruisers parked next to my truck, one of them said good morning as I got out and walked to get my coffee, other drivers will not park there because of those signs but as trucks here, including mine have the ‘Certified clean idle’ sticker on them surely they can’t really do anything, I was once told by a NJ cop that provided the cab is actually occupied they will not give out a ticket but if the driver walks away leaving the engine running the ticket is as good as yours.
milodon:
An idling lorry will not bother someone sleeping with closed windows.
Nonsense! The rattle of a bag of chisels (Actros for example) next to you will keep you awake. Furthermore, as I stated earlier, the fumes will seep up into your cab from the lorry next to you. Not rocket science: fact. Just don’t do it! Robert
Maybe the delicate snowflakes that have issues with a bit of industrial background noise should stay at home in their cosy triple-glazed houses so they can get their beauty sleep in complete peace rather than expecting everyone else to accommodate them?
I know I am very much in the minority in today’s “entitled” UK where it’s everyone else that’s to blame, but all those that whinge and whine about fridge drivers parking in the vicinity with the fridge running should try looking in the mirror to see the source of the problem ie. if you can’t sleep with noises happening in the background that are part and parcel of the job then why the [zb] are you doing a job that involves sleeping in a truck where you have little to no control over the environment around you? Chanting “well I was the only person here when I parked up” does not cut it. A fridge driver with a full load is just as entitled to park up for his break or daily rest and they should not be expected to go round switching their fridge units off nor spending all their time looking for a place that’s within half a mile of a snowflake tramper driver that’s chosen a job where he has to sleep in the truck .
There’s even a sizeable number of posts on this site where drivers openly admit to switching off other drivers’ fridges if they park near them. WTF is wrong with you people? If I was running the country such actions would result in a fine to the value of the load, a further fine of minimum £5000 for being an utter bellend and immediate disqualification of your vocational licence entitlements with no option to retake them.
Firstly it’s usually accepted that you’d need to idle the engine for long periods at some point during a proper north American winter if you don’t want to end up with a frozen engine and/or driver.Or Summer without an independent air con system.Although having said that they seemed to have managed during earlier times although I’d guess that even then they wouldn’t have been spending nights out in a truck without a decent heater and an idling engine in -25 C temperatures.Nor without air con in continuous 35 degrees C + heat often combined with 60% + humidity.
I’ve also never known any European services or parking area to not usually be ringing out with the sound of at least one fridge having to keep up with the continental heat and if it’s got engine dependent air con then why shouldn’t the driver also use it.While we regularly idled the engine of trucks not fitted with night heaters during the winter,especially on night work,both to keep the cab warm and to help stop diesel from waxing during the winter.Also in the case of nights out during the winter of early '86 on general haulage together with loads of others parked in MSA’s.I really haven’t got a clue what Robert etc are on about in that regard.
While if they think that’s bad they should have tried night work and having to sleep during the day.With the combination of living within the nuisance noise range of the take off flight path from Heathrow,including Concorde’s daily 11.00 am departure and long term road works going on outside the house among other assorted traffic noise.
“Freon” is a trade name. It has been used for different products of the Chemours Company. It is used a bit like “Hoover” to describe any vacuum cleaner, or “Jeep” for any 4X4.
“Freon” is a trade name. It has been used for different products of the Chemours Company. It is used a bit like “Hoover” to describe any vacuum cleaner, or “Jeep” for any 4X4.
Thank you.
R134a, r404a,r452, use nitrogen as a gas, eg it’s used to pressureize the bottle along with aforementioned…
What we need is a qualified refrigeration engineer to pop along and empart his knowledge upon us.
Robert [emoji38]
