Should it be a driver’s responsibility to drive in such a way on normal roads that pallets of empty beer bottles do not collapse while in transit or should it be the responsibility of the consignor to dispatch the load in such a way that it will not collapse while being driven at slow to normal speeds on A roads and motorways?
Asking for a friend. 
There are some things in life a tipper driver doesn’t have to consider. Haha
I personally think the load should be packaged and loaded such that the vehicle can be driven at the normal pace of vehicles of that type. If it has to travel more slowly then surely you are into an abnormal load scenario ? After all if it cannot travel at the same speed of similar vehicles without risking a shed load then it is not normal.
Obviously tipper pace is not covered by normal 
Shouldn’t a driver check that the load is adequately secured?
If the pallet is secured such that it doesn’t move, but rather collapses under it’s own weight, that seems to me a pallet not suitable for transit.
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If a sender thinks a load needs to be driven especially slowly and gently, let them give written instrctions to that effect…and let them explan why they are sending out inadequately packaged goods to any interested authorities too.
Compression packs are designed to be transported by road, so as long as you don’t hoon around like a loon you won’t have any problems
So these ones we get from Thailand, they come in sea containers and they are packaged to be moved.
Cardboard layer boards that are folded over and taped together, then strapped to the pallet and then shrink wrapped with some really thick sturdy polythene.
We have no bother handling these.
These ones we get locally and they are a complete nightmare.
No strapping, very light gauge shrink wrap and reused layer boards that all sorts of damage to them. They wobble just looking at them and they even fall over in the de-pallet machine.
How you deal with them is up to you. The good one we can move around on a flat bed with no load restraints.
The bad ones collapse in hard sided trailers.
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AndieHyde:
So these ones we get from Thailand, they come in sea containers and they are packaged to be moved.
Cardboard layer boards that are folded over and taped together, then strapped to the pallet and then shrink wrapped with some really thick sturdy polythene.We have no bother handling these.
They look like they have stayed together really well, even after you tipped them on their side ?
The glass factories of South Yorkshire have a set procedure for strapping"live loads"
Internals over the side…and a rear bulkhead,was the method for this particular load.
Particularly bad potholes would be posted on the drivers notice board 
Think my mate has only succeeded twice,in about 3 years
manski:
They look like they have stayed together really well, even after you tipped them on their side ?
I’ve stood Andie’s pallet back up for him. 
Harry Monk:
Should it be a driver’s responsibility to drive in such a way on normal roads that pallets of empty beer bottles do not collapse while in transit or should it be the responsibility of the consignor to dispatch the load in such a way that it will not collapse while being driven at slow to normal speeds on A roads and motorways?Asking for a friend.
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if its strapped to satisfy the vostapo,then crack on drive and wreck the lot as its not your fault they cant construct a secure load.
if it falls over without having collapsed then itl be a debate as to where to lace the blame,but collapsed and wrecked is the suppliers prob in my book.
i delivered a load of hanging which was 90% on the floor at the delivery address and they went mental.
my argument was that if the loaders hooked it up correctly,then it would still be hanging as you cant exactly drive like a normal tang round the bends,and bumps in the road are out of my remit.
they examined it to see that the hooks hadnt torn out and that also went in my favour but a load collapsing isnt the drivers prob ad you should tell them to do one.
I once had a dispute about pallets of yoghurt that collapsed. They would have been fine if the loader hadn’t left a 30cm gap between them in the trailer. He said he did it for air circulation because that’s what they did in the warehouse.
dieseldog999:
Harry Monk:
Should it be a driver’s responsibility to drive in such a way on normal roads that pallets of empty beer bottles do not collapse while in transit or should it be the responsibility of the consignor to dispatch the load in such a way that it will not collapse while being driven at slow to normal speeds on A roads and motorways?Asking for a friend.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
if its strapped to satisfy the vostapo,then crack on drive and wreck the lot as its not your fault they cant construct a secure load.
if it falls over without having collapsed then itl be a debate as to where to lace the blame,but collapsed and wrecked is the suppliers prob in my book.
i delivered a load of hanging which was 90% on the floor at the delivery address and they went mental.
my argument was that if the loaders hooked it up correctly,then it would still be hanging as you cant exactly drive like a normal tang round the bends,and bumps in the road are out of my remit.
they examined it to see that the hooks hadnt torn out and that also went in my favour but a load collapsing isnt the drivers prob ad you should tell them to do one.
It certainly was when the soggy bottom boxes of honeydew melons collapsed and whole pallets started a bid for freedom through the sheet.
If your not happy how is packed then refuse it.
As way I see it once you have signed for the load and it’s on your truck
Your responsible for.it.
And if you get to the other end and it’s damaged then it’s your fault
I have done this out of Yorkshire somewhere, a place like Chernobyl, all concrete and devoid of any humanity…Down to Suffolk…I had the two rear bottom pallets go on me, but the customer was geared up for it and the clear up took minutes.
It was clear that the method of stacking and wrapping for transport was not adequate, it was no big deal as I think they are only worth pennies and the glass is recycled, so no biggie.
I also had this happen with full bottles once…Whisky The outcome was somewhat different.
cav551:
when the soggy bottom boxes of honeydew melons collapsed and whole pallets started a bid for freedom through the sheet.
Reminds me of when ■■■■■ Barbara down the pub plays pool, every time she plays a shot her melons try to make a break for freedom from under the covers
edd1974:
If your not happy how is packed then refuse it.As way I see it once you have signed for the load and it’s on your truck
Your responsible for.it.
And if you get to the other end and it’s damaged then it’s your fault
Incorrect
Once you have signed to say you have secured the load to their exact specifications.
It’s ■■■■ all to do with you
commonrail:
edd1974:
If your not happy how is packed then refuse it.As way I see it once you have signed for the load and it’s on your truck
Your responsible for.it.
And if you get to the other end and it’s damaged then it’s your faultIncorrect
Once you have signed to say you have secured the load to their exact specifications.
It’s [zb] all to do with you
Will if that’s the case and you have secured the load how the customer asks. You drive slowly take you time and they end up damaged at the other end they surley you can’t be to blame?
That’s right.
At the end of the day…if you don’t strap it,exactly how they want it…they’ll fork you off.
Harry Monk:
Should it be a driver’s responsibility to drive in such a way on normal roads that pallets of empty beer bottles do not collapse while in transit or should it be the responsibility of the consignor to dispatch the load in such a way that it will not collapse while being driven at slow to normal speeds on A roads and motorways?Asking for a friend.
So what your saying is I should drive the way im told to drive
The question is do you not know how to pull a load according to the load
You must be new to the game if you have to ask the question
The answer is simple you ain’t got a clue what your doing it sticks out a mile in your post, what you should work at is pulling the same stuff every day
