Since when has poa been a grey area .
Its not a grey area at all. I’ve met a hundred guys like him, knows it all and quite happy to tell anyone who’ll listen. Luckily its only been seen 75 times so he doesn’t have the biggest audience.
Thing is a lot of what he says is correct-ish. At least up to 8 minutes, I got bored after that. But the way he lays on a conclusion and an example is just wrong.
fingermissing:
Since when has poa been a grey area .
Always. When have you known a ’ Gestapo ’ type spring out from behind the bushes to check what your tacho mode’s on.
Just another line of bureaucracy.
"Other duties ’ mode suffices.
fingermissing:
Since when has poa been a grey area
POA is not a grey area, he’s just putting his own confused interpretation onto something and making it sound like a grey area.
If you can use the time exclusively for recuperation you can book it as break, it doesn’t matter if it’s a minute or an hour, it doesn’t matter if you book one break a day or a dozen, if you can use the time exclusively for recuperation it can legally be booked as break.
Booking lots of breaks may invite some questions in a spot check but if it was genuinely break you should have nothing to worry about, plenty of people have nothing to do while the vehicle is being loaded or unloaded so legally book break.
As far as I can see the only grey area is what that bloke knows about POA 
tachograph:
fingermissing:
Since when has poa been a grey areaPOA is not a grey area, he’s just putting his own confused interpretation onto something and making it sound like a grey area.
If you can use the time exclusively for recuperation you can book it as break, it doesn’t matter if it’s a minute or an hour, it doesn’t matter if you book one break a day or a dozen, if you can use the time exclusively for recuperation it can legally be booked as break.
Booking lots of breaks may invite some questions in a spot check but if it was genuinely break you should have nothing to worry about, plenty of people have nothing to do while the vehicle is being loaded or unloaded so legally book break.As far as I can see the only grey area is what that bloke knows about POA
100 ( no bloody percentage key on this Argos special ) . That POA transposed with the cross hammers symbol.
I remember on many occasions drivers saying, ’ I just leave the mode selector on ‘break’… analogue type; carbon paper chart. If or when I tried to explain that was incorrect use of the mode selector to this 7.5 t driver, within the following week, he got a pull at a local weighbridge & minced on his taco’s + a 10… ? Pc over on his drive axle.
Perhaps he helps out at his local training company as a DCPC trainer - that’d explain it.
shep532:
Perhaps he helps out at his local training company as a DCPC trainer - that’d explain it.
Comment of the day!
Downright genius - he should be made Minister for Transport.
shep532:
Perhaps he helps out at his local training company as a DCPC trainer - that’d explain it.
If that was aimed at me, this issue was in 1994. I since heard his HGV entitlement has been revoked… twice.
tachograph:
fingermissing:
Since when has poa been a grey areaBooking lots of breaks may invite some questions in a spot check
That statement goes against what a ministry man said to me at a spot check, “I like to see lots of breaks on a card through the day” were his exact words, which mine did have
simon1958:
tachograph:
fingermissing:
Since when has poa been a grey areaPOA is not a grey area, he’s just putting his own confused interpretation onto something and making it sound like a grey area.
If you can use the time exclusively for recuperation you can book it as break, it doesn’t matter if it’s a minute or an hour, it doesn’t matter if you book one break a day or a dozen, if you can use the time exclusively for recuperation it can legally be booked as break.
Booking lots of breaks may invite some questions in a spot check but if it was genuinely break you should have nothing to worry about, plenty of people have nothing to do while the vehicle is being loaded or unloaded so legally book break.As far as I can see the only grey area is what that bloke knows about POA
100 ( no bloody percentage key on this Argos special ) . That POA transposed with the cross hammers symbol.
I remember on many occasions drivers saying, ’ I just leave the mode selector on ‘break’… analogue type; carbon paper chart. If or when I tried to explain that was incorrect use of the mode selector to this 7.5 t driver, within the following week, he got a pull at a local weighbridge & minced on his taco’s + a 10… ? Pc over on his drive axle.
What are the odds of needing a % symbol twice in one post when you don’t have one?
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% jealous? 
simon1958:
shep532:
Perhaps he helps out at his local training company as a DCPC trainer - that’d explain it.If that was aimed at me, this issue was in 1994. I since heard his HGV entitlement has been revoked… twice.
If that’s you in the video then yes it was aimed at you.
weeto:
tachograph:
fingermissing:
Since when has poa been a grey areaBooking lots of breaks may invite some questions in a spot check
That statement goes against what a ministry man said to me at a spot check, “I like to see lots of breaks on a card through the day” were his exact words, which mine did have
That’s fine aslong as you’ve got plenty of other work too, or more probing may be deemed necessary
Conan the Librarian:
weeto:
tachograph:
fingermissing:
Since when has poa been a grey areaBooking lots of breaks may invite some questions in a spot check
That statement goes against what a ministry man said to me at a spot check, “I like to see lots of breaks on a card through the day” were his exact words, which mine did have
That’s fine aslong as you’ve got plenty of other work too, or more probing may be deemed necessary
Well I must be lucky then, only been probed once in 28 years for going over driving time slightly, never been questioned on breaks, or other work.
That’s fine aslong as you’ve got plenty of other work too, or more probing may be deemed necessary
Well I must be lucky then, only been probed once in 28 years for going over driving time slightly, never been questioned on breaks, or other work.
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Dipper Dave obviously had the day off then… 
The worm has turned 
Here`s another little brain worm , Sweet home Alabama 
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Thunderstruck
tachograph:
Booking lots of breaks may invite some questions in a spot check
Having been stopped countless times on VOSA checks once over (1 of the hazards of driving foreign regd trucks) and being one who never bothers with poa.
If I have been asked questions about absence of POA/ lots of breaks (actually, can not remember ever being so) my answer was/would be simply…‘‘They were breaks’’ 
POA is just a way to extend your working day, the more that people use it then the more likely it will become the norm (and drive the wage rate down)
I am either working or resting. I really can’t see how you can be at work yet not be working.
POA is the devil and he is knocking on the back door 