Overspeeds where do we stand by law?

I have had written warnings for overspeeds in the past. The tacho disc will get u all the time but the digi let u cancel it out.

just because you have had a writen warning for overspeeding, does not necessarily mean that you have broken the law

it all depends on the company policy

if say, the company has a policy of 50mph, and you are caught doing 55mph, then according to company policy, you are overspeeding, but not speeding by law

If you are on a motorway and you don’t go over 60 mph then you haven’t broken any laws so you can stand wherever you want to.

Also, despite what many TM’s, trainers and Compliance mangers will tell you you haven’t broken any Construction and Use laws/regulations either, provided the limiter is working.

As said above though it could be a company policy thing.

I thought as much! But as you all know some companies want you to hurry and others want you to slow up! I have worked for both sorts.

I asked VOSA about this a while back when my TM told me it was illegal to go over the limiter. This is their reply …

Regarding the speed limit, you are allowed to exceed the limited speed (but not the speed limit) on a long downhill. The digital tachograph will not record this overspeed until about 2 minutes has elapsed anyway. Enforcement bodies will only use the overspeed data to see if the speed limiter has been overridden or incorrectly set such that the speed limit is exceeded or the limiter setting is incorrect on a level road.

Most hgvs are set at 56mph as they should be to be legal, but some companys have them set at 50 or 52 for example i presume an overspeed is when you go faster than what that vehicles limiter is set at?

Mrknowitall:
Most hgvs are set at 56mph as they should be to be legal, but some companys have them set at 50 or 52 for example i presume an overspeed is when you go faster than what that vehicles limiter is set at?

yup

Mrknowitall:
I have had written warnings for overspeeds in the past. The tacho disc will get u all the time but the digi let u cancel it out.

It only cancels the flashing message. If you do a printout you will find your overspeed recorded there.

According the dcpc trainer at my coarse on saturday you can be proscuted on historic data for 6 months after the offence including speeding

the big un:
According the dcpc trainer at my coarse on saturday you can be proscuted on historic data for 6 months after the offence including speeding

Ask him for your DCPC fee back, everything else he told you was probably crap too :stuck_out_tongue:

Wheel Nut:

the big un:
According the dcpc trainer at my coarse on saturday you can be proscuted on historic data for 6 months after the offence including speeding

Ask him for your DCPC fee back, everything else he told you was probably crap too :stuck_out_tongue:

Lucky for me i didnt pay :smiley:

The speed limiter only has to prevent the lorry being “powered” over 56mph

Someone I know recently got dismissed for far exceeding 60mph.
AFAIK they got him with evidence from the tacho and on the tracker speeding down windy hill.
The idiot had only been in the job 2 week, and a bit of a know it all, & to cap it all after he got sacked, he applied somewhere for a job & went for an interview & to do an assesment drive & also sign up with the agencies round here. Only to discover that both his diving licence and digi card had expired. Its people like him this industry can do without

im confused, i thought i was supposed to watch the road not the speedo when im driving :unamused: :unamused:

If you are exceeding 60 mph, I guess you could be done on historical data. But under 60 the law can’t do you. The offence is driving at X speed at Y location, tachos cannot give your location, so the Y part of the offence cannot be proven. Forensic analysis probably could place you at Y, but that’s too much effort for a 65mph overrun on a hill I would have thought…

Mrknowitall:
Most hgvs are set at 56mph as they should be to be legal, but some companys have them set at 50 or 52 for example i presume an overspeed is when you go faster than what that vehicles limiter is set at?

No. It’s what the overspeed limit is set at. Ours are 90km/h so if we’re over, say 91km/h for 30 seconds we’ll get a flashing warning. Some have them set at 92/3km/h. You can find out by going into the tacho details in the wagon but I can’t remember off the top of my head which menu to go into.

ive had it happen to me a couple of times when going downhill with a load on,the truck is limited to 55mph but its been upto 58-59 on the motorway going downhill, i got the usual overspeeding message and then about 10 secs later it flashed up that it was now a tacho infringement… :unamused:

Mrknowitall:
Most hgvs are set at 56mph as they should be to be legal, but some companys have them set at 50 or 52 for example i presume an overspeed is when you go faster than what that vehicles limiter is set at?

No,my motor is set at 85km/h, i can over-run up to 90km/h with no problems, if i go over 90km/h for over 30 seconds i get an overspeed. But anything up to and including 90, no problems.

dazaster:
im confused, i thought i was supposed to watch the road not the speedo when im driving :unamused: :unamused:

You don’t need to watch the speedo, you can glance at it or the rev counter with one eye, the speed limiter and the engine brake should hold you back. That and the other truck creeping past another at 56.02

peirre:
Someone I know recently got dismissed for far exceeding 60mph.
AFAIK they got him with evidence from the tacho and on the tracker speeding down windy hill.
The idiot had only been in the job 2 week, and a bit of a know it all, & to cap it all after he got sacked, he applied somewhere for a job & went for an interview & to do an assesment drive & also sign up with the agencies round here. Only to discover that both his diving licence and digi card had expired. Its people like him this industry can do without

But it’s people like him the industry thives on.