dazaster:
im confused, i thought i was supposed to watch the road not the speedo when im driving
I would of thought at your height it was at eye level 
Vosa has told our tm that it is certainly an infringement, and a driver can be prosecuted for exceeding the limited speed regardless of where it occurred. so for eg if you are on a motorway, do not think that a truck can automatically reach speeds of 60 mph, purely because it is the legal limit for trucks on a M road.
Its a sad state of affairs, but vosa can now fine motorist, and keep the moneyā¦so beware all fellow truckers.
An overspeed is recorded on the Vehicle Unit. However the overspeed is only an indication that the vehicle is travelling faster than the current speed limiter setting. The legal speed limit for an truck on a motorway is currently 60mph and it would be very doubtful if a sucessful prosecution could be brought for exceeding the current speed limiter setting.
If your speed limiter is set to 56mph and you record an overspeed at 58mph you have not exceeded the national speed limit for a UK motorway.
If your company policy dictates otherwise, then that is an internal matter, not a road traffic offence. 
truckyboy:
Vosa has told our tm that it is certainly an infringement, and a driver can be prosecuted for exceeding the limited speed regardless of where it occurred. so for eg if you are on a motorway, do not think that a truck can automatically reach speeds of 60 mph, purely because it is the legal limit for trucks on a M road.
Its a sad state of affairs, but vosa can now fine motorist, and keep the moneyā¦so beware all fellow truckers.
What would be the offence code? All the legislation about speed limiters are Construction and Use regulations, nothing about driving at all. If the offence is that the speed limiter doesnāt work because of steep hills then all the limiters in the land are defective.
Hereās a list of all the speeding offences;
SP10 Exceeding goods vehicle speed limitsā¦
SP20 Exceeding speed limit for type of vehicle (excluding goods or passenger vehicles)ā¦
SP30 Exceeding statutory speed limit on a public roadā¦
SP40 Exceeding passenger vehicle speed limitā¦
SP50 Exceeding speed limit on a motorwayā¦
SP60 Undefined speed limit offenceā¦
Which would it be? (No it canāt be a SP60, that specifically says āspeed limitā offence. The M-way speed limit for HGVās is 60mph)
truckyboy:
Vosa has told our tm that it is certainly an infringement, and a driver can be prosecuted for exceeding the limited speed regardless of where it occurred. so for eg if you are on a motorway, do not think that a truck can automatically reach speeds of 60 mph, purely because it is the legal limit for trucks on a M road.
Its a sad state of affairs, but vosa can now fine motorist, and keep the moneyā¦so beware all fellow truckers.
Thatās all.
dazaster:
im confused, i thought i was supposed to watch the road not the speedo when im driving
For Example from HC:
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On leaving the motorway or using a link road between motorways, your speed may be higher than you realise - 50 mph may feel like 30 mph. Check your speedometer and adjust your speed accordingly. Some slip-roads and link roads have sharp bends, so you will need to slow down.
the big un:
According the dcpc trainer at my coarse on saturday you can be proscuted on historic data for 6 months after the offence including speeding
As a former DCPC Trainer it was horlicks like this (Train the Trainer advice) that made me pack it in and return to driving. Iām no longer amazed at the so-called JAUPT approved halfwits that are paid to āteachā or pass on ill informed bull 
The problem being many, (in my experience most), of the DCPC Trainers have little or no, hands-on experience from either behind the wheel or from within the confines of a traffic office. Indeed many are from a military background with no ācivilā haulage experience at all. How can anyone teach the operation of a digital tachograph if theyāve never used oneā ā ?
Of course they are quickly caught out - but not before confusing at least half of the paying customersā¦
The rules & regulations can be complex and somewhat confusing but at the very least drivers should expect to be given factual (and not supposition) information from the fella at the front of the class.
BTW, did you know you do not have to pass any exams to act (teach) for a JAUPT approved centre?
Express Pete:
the big un:
According the dcpc trainer at my coarse on saturday you can be proscuted on historic data for 6 months after the offence including speedingAs a former DCPC Trainer it was horlicks like this (Train the Trainer advice) that made me pack it in and return to driving. Iām no longer amazed at the so-called JAUPT approved halfwits that are paid to āteachā or pass on ill informed bull
The problem being many, (in my experience most), of the DCPC Trainers have little or no, hands-on experience from either behind the wheel or from within the confines of a traffic office. Indeed many are from a military background with no ācivilā haulage experience at all. How can anyone teach the operation of a digital tachograph if theyāve never used oneā ā ?
Of course they are quickly caught out - but not before confusing at least half of the paying customersā¦
The rules & regulations can be complex and somewhat confusing but at the very least drivers should expect to be given factual (and not supposition) information from the fella at the front of the class.
BTW, did you know you do not have to pass any exams to act (teach) for a JAUPT approved centre? :roll:
Really 
Are they any local to South Wales? Coz Iām a trained instructor - and I can certainly teach bull ā ā ā ā
Suprised Geebee45 hasnt commted, or may be heās bored now of typing the same information over and over again
Cruise Control:
Suprised Geebee45 hasnt commted, or may be heās bored now of typing the same information over and over again
Heās probably busy so Iāll save him the trouble. 
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geebee45:
[/url]OK Iāll admit that Iām confused as to why so many folk in the UK get vexed about overspeed on digital tachos. If the overspeed report says you were doing 94 km/h for 2 minutes why should I care? Now, 94 km/h for 10 minutes is a different matter as that tends to indicate that the speed limiter is / was defective, donāt think there are many ā10 minuteā hills in the UK.
There is the VOSA take on the overspeed thing straight from the horses mouth, not that I am calling geebee45 a horse you understand. ](Why Is Overspeed An Issue? - THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE) - Trucknet UK)
Coffeeholic:
Heās probably busy so Iāll save him the trouble.
heās probably busy pulling drivers over running ābobtailā checking theyāve got a C+E licence if the 5th wheel isnt covered by a bin bag and gaffer tape and not just got a cat C licenceā¦ 
Wow, itās unreal how this industry goes further and further backwards over time when every thing else goes forward, seems to be more problems now with speed, than there was 20 odd years ago pre limiter.
Even when limiters were introduded they were set at a genorous 100 kmph or 62 mph and every one sat on the limit on the motorways with no worries of being stopped for speeding.
I should also think that the police/vosa would be hard pushed to get a sucsesful prosecution on tacho evidence alone, so I wouldnāt worry about that to much,
Glad i work at a place that doesnt think an overspeed is an infringement, if it did i doubt i would be there for long. and any that do, aint worth working forā¦
You also have to remember acpo guide lines would let you get away with doing upto 68 mph before you were looking at getting done.
The french police like the overspeed printout and will fine you on anything over 100 kph regardles of how long ago or was in france or not , so be warned if you go across to france always hold it back to below 100kās on the hills over here
Thanks to Neil for replying on my behalf. He was correct in that Iāve been busy doing other things, like two days of āback to the floorā working at a famous road checksite just off the A1. I have now lost my virginity in that two drivers have been issued fixed penalty notices by me. One because heād had insufficient daily rest the other for producing a false letter of attestation. Both got prohibitions (done that before) and vehicles were immobilized (first time Iāve done that). Do I have a problem with doing any of that? No, they knew what they were doing.
The other 10 trucks I looked at were fine and were on their way within 30 minutes of stopping. Even had a conversation about āoverspeedsā with a lad from Northern Ireland. Which leads me nicely to this thread. I personally couldnāt give a āratsā bottomā about overspeed reports that show a minute or two at something between 91 and 98 km/h. Speeds higher than that will be brought to the driversā attention, like the 106 km/h for said driver from Belfast, but again the duration was less that three minutes, he got reminded that Volvo FHs have a pretty effective exhaust brake 
Now where I have got a real bee in my bonnet is the vehicle that I have a downloaded speed file that shows a 24 hour period where the limiter is clearly defective and the maximum speed achieved was over 80mph, wonder if the 30+ passengers were aware?
To answer Cruisesā post, got better things to do than look at solo units with or without plastic bags on the fifth wheel although solo tractor displaying trade plates are a particular favorite of mine.
In answer to Neil, being called āa horseā is an improvement on some of the things Iāve been called lately. I do have two certificates to show one of the terms isnāt actually true. But the world can live in peace next week 'cos Iām off on holiday and Bertha will be getting plenty of exercise for a change.
geebee45:
Even had a conversation about āoverspeedsā with a lad from Northern Ireland. Which leads me nicely to this thread. I personally couldnāt give a āratsā bottomā about overspeed reports that show a minute or two at something between 91 and 98 km/h. Speeds higher than that will be brought to the driversā attention, like the 106 km/h for said driver from Belfast, but again the duration was less that three minutes, he got reminded that Volvo FHs have a pretty effective exhaust brake
Iām usually polite to VOSA as I couldnāt care less what you do, but if you brought a short overspeed of 65 mph to my attention I would have told you to mind your own ā ā ā ā ā ā ā business. It has ā ā ā ā all to do with you so why mention it. Clearly another typical VOSA guy on a power trip.
Ive heard the drivers card clears overspeed data after 24hrs.