I reckon parking in laybys or industrial estates should be made illegal- its like saying when you are at home you have to sleep in the garden with no loo,no hot or cold water and no food
Minger:
I reckon parking in laybys or industrial estates should be made illegal- its like saying when you are at home you have to sleep in the garden with no loo,no hot or cold water and no food
Surely it’s matter of choice. You’re not forced to park in a lay-by or on an Ind Est. I appreciate that sometimes (very rarely) it’s the only option.
For me, proper thought and planning usually prevents me from the dreaded lay-by.
goshow:
Minger:
I reckon parking in laybys or industrial estates should be made illegal- its like saying when you are at home you have to sleep in the garden with no loo,no hot or cold water and no foodSurely it’s matter of choice. You’re not forced to park in a lay-by or on an Ind Est. I appreciate that sometimes (very rarely) it’s the only option.
For me, proper thought and planning usually prevents me from the dreaded lay-by.
Exactly, it’s all about having a few options. I would never ever end up on a lay-by on dual carriageway being buffeted all night, it’s totally avoidable. Last layby I parked on was in Norfolk, however it was next to a Tesco and 2 minutes from pubs and takeaways in the town centre so fitted the bill for what I’m after.
Google Maps, Satelite images, Street View - you can find places to park easily in parts you don’t know if you put in a little effort.
To be honest i wont use a layby, but if things were desperate then as long as it is parked safely thats ok with me.
Thats me not you. I park where I’m able to .
I carry lots of water, I also have a plastic wash bowl that if the need arises I can take a wash in the cab using hot water heated either by gas or electric. I carry lots of soap, flannels and towels. I also have food I can cook either from the fridge or from packets or cans. I wont go hungry or thirsty.
I can entertain myself with a good book or a tablet that I watch recorded tv programmes on
I carry things like this because sometimes you never know where you are going to end up.
Sometimes it is impossible to find that right spot to stop.
Sometimes you cannot get on an MSA because it is full to the brim.
Sometimes I run out of time waiting to load or tip, and I might be miles from civilisation as you see it.
To make something illegal because thats not your way is …well…stupid.
It is not a perfect world, sometimes as a driver you just have to get on with things the best you can.
Personally I prefer laybys. I always cook for myself and have a good supply of cold water than I can make hot by the magical powers of a kettle and gas stove. As for toilets and showers, just stop in the services before you park up. Also always keep an old lucosade bottle handy if you need a ■■■■ in the middle of the night and before anyone moans, there’s nothing wrong with passing in an empty bottle as long as you dispose of it in an appropriate manner. The same goes for all your rubbish. One thing that really pees me of is all the rubbish just thrown around.
It can’t be made illegal, where would all the trucks go after 6 pm during the week when most services etc are filling up?
I’d much rather have a decent night’s sleep on a quiet estate than be disturbed all night by the comings and goings and fridges etc in a busy motorway services.
I reckon having a ■■■■■■■■ opinion should be made illegal.
Minger:
I reckon parking in laybys or industrial estates should be made illegal- its like saying when you are at home you have to sleep in the garden with no loo,no hot or cold water and no food
Why? Personally I’d rather park on an industrial estate near or in a town centre with pubs, takeaways close by than a stinking MSA or some of the ■■■■■■■■■ classed as truck stops.
I would never park in a lay by that’s not set back off the road due to the fact of being rocked all night and the thought at the back of your head that the next truck is going right through the back of you due to a tired driver. I’d only park in lay bys set back from the road as a last resort unless as stated above there is a nice pub close by.
A bit of forward planning and a decent knowledge of areas and parking spots mean you can have a good night out with a bit of socialising or sightseeing for the few hours you get off.
We seem to be living in a society where everybody wants stuff banned becasue they don’t agree with it. 
Instead of trying to get sleeping in laybys and industrial areas banned, you should be backing any attempt to improve parking facilities in the UK. 
cue robroy in 5,4,3,2,1,■■?.. 
park sensibly with a bit of initiative and who would want the option of a msa/truckstop…no brainer for me,but as always each to their own.
Great someone else telling us what we should be doing. Same as the other thread where we’re told what we should be earning. Industrial estates over MSA every time for me and my company are happy to pay for parking. Reverse beepers, fridges, engines idling, doors slamming - no thanks.
as i was trying to say,
if you were at home and the toilet was out of bounds,no hot or cold water and your bed was for a small child then would you accept it cos your a pea brain?
Minger:
as i was trying to say,
if you were at home and the toilet was out of bounds,no hot or cold water and your bed was for a small child then would you accept it cos your a pea brain?
But it’s not out of bounds is it?
You have options, numerous options and a lay-by or Ind Est is just one of them. It is YOUR choice whether to stay in them or not. 99.9% of the time YOU can plan your route to stay elsewhere.
I am in the same boat as you, I don’t like staying in lay-bys or on industrial estates. So, I DON"T STAY IN THEM.
What has the size of the bed got to do with banning them?
Minger:
…you have to sleep in the garden with no loo,no hot or cold water and no food
All that’s missing is the tent and you’ve got what a lot of people regard as a holiday, ie: camping (and no, I’ve never understood it either). 
The only real advantage I could forsee in banning overnighting in laybys would be so we can actually find somewhere to park for a 45 which is next to impossible at times especially after 6pm on the bigger roads. Then again, it’s not always easy even at MSA’s (really wonder if any of the non UK trucks actually pay for parking).
Food and water is easy to sort, even I’ve got food with me at all times, although I don’t night out much and can’t use a stove in most trucks. Loo depends what you want - as mentioned, several lucozade bottles sort one half but that’s day and night. Showers are the main bugbare I have with nighting out in a layby or industrial estate vs an MSA.
As for Robroy, we might need to alert Evil8Beezle as he seems to know the magic words to summon TNUK’s most mysterious driver. Either that or he’s got his phone number.
If I know there is a good chance im going to ditch the lorry in a Ind estate or layby not near anything useful I just go in the last services on the way there and buy food/drink if needed and use their toilet. As im paid hourly as well mucking about before driving further down the road makes me more dollar as well.
let me put it another way then, if you told your partner to overnight in a layby, what would their reply be?
Minger:
as i was trying to say,
if you were at home and the toilet was out of bounds,no hot or cold water and your bed was for a small child then would you accept it cos your a pea brain?
The trick is to be more subtle mate. Don’t get me wrong, being a Beaver I love the water, and fishing is my favourite pastime.
But you have to more cunning. Try something along the lines of " My Dad used to beat me as a child, are all truck drivers violent? ".
Minger:
as i was trying to say,
if you were at home and the toilet was out of bounds,no hot or cold water and your bed was for a small child then would you accept it cos your a pea brain?
Ok we get your point laybys and industrial areas aren’t ideal, fully agree with you, still not sure how you get a bigger bunk when you pull into a service area though, but you have a choice so why should they be banned, why does everybody want anything they don’t agree with banned, what happened to a bit of freedom of choice, if that choice doesn’t impact on you?
trevHCS:
As for Robroy, we might need to alert Evil8Beezle as he seems to know the magic words to summon TNUK’s most mysterious driver. Either that or he’s got his phone number.
On it boss!
trevHCS:
As for Robroy, we might need to alert Evil8Beezle as he seems to know the magic words to summon TNUK’s most mysterious driver. Either that or he’s got his phone number.
I don’t tramp, and therefore a ■■■■■.
Let’s see if that works… 