over weight

will i get done being 44t80kg

sweeper1gg:
will i get done being 44t80kg

Were you in an 8 legger?!!

At 80kg over, you’ll probably get your ■■■ kicked.

Just go and have a good ■■■■, and throw your wallet out.

Ken.

Quinny:
At 80kg over, you’ll probably get your ■■■ kicked.

Just go and have a good [zb], and throw your wallet out.

Ken.

They won’t even blink at that and he’ll of burned a fair bit of it off in diesel before he passes a weighbridge.

Crack on driver you’ll be fine :wink:

3.6 Excess Weight Offences
When a fixed penalty notice or conditional offer is issued for an excess weight offence, the
examiner will also prohibit the driving of the vehicle on a road. The prohibition is designed
to stop an overweight vehicle from being used on the road and to preserve road safety.

The fixed penalty will be the preferred option for dealing with excess weight offences,
unless the offence is too serious to warrant the issue of a fixed penalty or the maximum
number of notices (as explained in section 3. 2) would otherwise be exceeded. Below is a
table showing the current graduated penalty levels for excess weight matters:

EXCEED WEIGHT
Severity Endorsable FP amount
0 up to but not including 10% No £60.00
10% up to but not including 15% No £120.00
15% and over No £200.00
The legislation shows that a £60.00 penalty will be levied for a 0%-9.99% overload, but
VOSA examiners will allow a 5% tolerance before Fixed Penalty or Prohibition issue
unless the relevant weight has been exceeded by 1 tonne or more. It is likely that a fixed
penalty would be inappropriate for serious cases of overloading (i.e. in which the vehicle is
overloaded by 30% and over, or the excess weight is 5 tonnes or more) and therefore a
court summons would be issued.

If the effect of the excess weight and the manner in which the load is carried is having a
significant effect on road safety, for example causing serious instability or loss of
directional control, alternative construction and use or road traffic offences that will need to
go to court may be appropriate, with the excess weight contributing to the offence.

When I drove 26tonners, I’d not go out above 26260 and was told this was the maximum tolerance.
I suppose on an 8wheeler it should be 32320 but I tend to only have it loaded to 31500.

Can I ask this question on the subject of weights?
We write our own delivery tickets and I’ve been told to “tare” my wagon at 12500. The thing is it really weighs 13500, thus when I have my legal weight of 18500 on my ticket reads 19500. I know this breaches weights and measures laws so I keep the firm happy by putting 12500 as the tare, and when I’m carrying 18500 I put 31000 down instead of 32000.
Am I breaking any laws? Remembering I’m not overweight or falsifying the payload.

The thousand pound a tonne myth is load of nonsense then.

Only problem with being right on the weight is the increased likelihood of an axle being over by more that the tolerance.

If you run up to full weight regularly have you run it over an axle weigher to check…sometimes find that shifting the 5th wheel or if heavy goods loadingwith bias towards one end helps, if possible.

Muckaway:
When I drove 26tonners, I’d not go out above 26260 and was told this was the maximum tolerance.
I suppose on an 8wheeler it should be 32320 but I tend to only have it loaded to 31500.

Can I ask this question on the subject of weights?
We write our own delivery tickets and I’ve been told to “tare” my wagon at 12500. The thing is it really weighs 13500, thus when I have my legal weight of 18500 on my ticket reads 19500. I know this breaches weights and measures laws so I keep the firm happy by putting 12500 as the tare, and when I’m carrying 18500 I put 31000 down instead of 32000.
Am I breaking any laws? Remembering I’m not overweight or falsifying the payload.

Why only load to 31.500■■ That’s half a ton payload lost every load you do and if you’re doing 4 loads a day at say £5/ton then your company is missing out on an extra £10 per day. Ok, so that’s not bad for one day but for the week it’s £50 and over the year it’s more than £2500 that your wagon hasn’t earned by being 500kg light with each load.

Muckaway:
When I drove 26tonners, I’d not go out above 26260 and was told this was the maximum tolerance.
I suppose on an 8wheeler it should be 32320 but I tend to only have it loaded to 31500.

Can I ask this question on the subject of weights?
We write our own delivery tickets and I’ve been told to “tare” my wagon at 12500. The thing is it really weighs 13500, thus when I have my legal weight of 18500 on my ticket reads 19500. I know this breaches weights and measures laws so I keep the firm happy by putting 12500 as the tare, and when I’m carrying 18500 I put 31000 down instead of 32000.
Am I breaking any laws? Remembering I’m not overweight or falsifying the payload.

You work for some con artists then.

XFMatt, half a tonne is nothing when muckshifting. It’s charged by the load and most of the time I can’t get my full weight on but the body is actually full. Half a tonne is mostly not even half a digger bucketfull.

Puntabrava, yes I agree :wink:

On muck you are governed more by the size of the body than by weight. I could max my weight a while before the body was full. Yet all out other motors would be miles under weight even if the body was rammed full.

Muckaway, why do you bother with weights on a waste transfer note for muck? We always just do 1x 8 wheeler load

I had a heavy load on an ejector once, being pulled by an F10 (290 Bhp, I think) was a bit slow on the hills between Wellingborough & Newton Longville, 50 tons on the weigh bridge, lol. luckily they let me tip it !

& I remember picking a Roll on bin up in an 8 wheel Volvo, even with the rear stabilizer down the front wheels tried to lift off (they sent a Scania first to try & collect it, but it wouldn’t even lift an inch off the ground, load sensor cut out) I struggled to get it on the Volvo, then drove it from Northampton to Wolverton, where it weighed in at 38 tons. Vowed after that- I would never take one on the road if I needed to use the rear stabilizer to stop the front axles from becoming airborne.

I’ve refused loads of bins since these 2 dodgy loads, the customers had to empty them out to get the weight down.

Biggest problem was builders, ordering a 40 yrd bin for general waste, then putting ■■■■■■■■ or soil in it (20 yarders are use for inert)

Muckaway:
When I drove 26tonners, I’d not go out above 26260 and was told this was the maximum tolerance.
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Wrong way of thinking but seeing as it comes from you that comes as no surprise.

puntabrava:
You work for some con artists then.

They’re the only people where he can manage to get work. No reputable haulier will touch him with a bargepole.

stevieboy308:
3.6 Excess Weight Offences
When a fixed penalty notice or conditional offer is issued for an excess weight offence, the
examiner will also prohibit the driving of the vehicle on a road. The prohibition is designed
to stop an overweight vehicle from being used on the road and to preserve road safety.

The fixed penalty will be the preferred option for dealing with excess weight offences,
unless the offence is too serious to warrant the issue of a fixed penalty or the maximum
number of notices (as explained in section 3. 2) would otherwise be exceeded. Below is a
table showing the current graduated penalty levels for excess weight matters:

EXCEED WEIGHT
Severity Endorsable FP amount
0 up to but not including 10% No £60.00
10% up to but not including 15% No £120.00
15% and over No £200.00
The legislation shows that a £60.00 penalty will be levied for a 0%-9.99% overload, but
VOSA examiners will allow a 5% tolerance before Fixed Penalty or Prohibition issue
unless the relevant weight has been exceeded by 1 tonne or more. It is likely that a fixed
penalty would be inappropriate for serious cases of overloading (i.e. in which the vehicle is
overloaded by 30% and over, or the excess weight is 5 tonnes or more) and therefore a
court summons would be issued.

If the effect of the excess weight and the manner in which the load is carried is having a
significant effect on road safety, for example causing serious instability or loss of
directional control, alternative construction and use or road traffic offences that will need to
go to court may be appropriate, with the excess weight contributing to the offence.

wow…inever had much problem back in the uk wi overloading but i thought the fines were heavier!
thank your lucky stars you are not in the frozen north…i received a$1000 fine for 650kgs over on an axle group ,was 2tonnes under gross at 53.5…on a train …also one of our 6x4 redi mixers loaded (barrel turning ) was axle weighed on a gravel hardshoulder and received a front axle overload ticket wi only 5metres on.DOT on scene would not except the delivery notes as legal ,must have thought the boss was giving away redi mix for free. 250kg…$500 fine no points though… jimmy

Hiya…this driving game is a killer, iam glad its over for me. if you overload a 8 legger
by half a ton, its dangerious the brakes could fail the steering isn’t made for that weight.
BUT if you have a 8 legger Plant lorry (the ones with the sand a gravel hopper)and a mixer
on the back of the truck…44 tons and red diesel IF YOU pay extra road tax. the lorry
is no longer dangerious…good is’nt it
John

3300John:
Hiya…this driving game is a killer, iam glad its over for me. if you overload a 8 legger
by half a ton, its dangerious the brakes could fail the steering isn’t made for that weight.
BUT if you have a 8 legger Plant lorry (the ones with the sand a gravel hopper)and a mixer
on the back of the truck…44 tons and red diesel IF YOU pay extra road tax. the lorry
is no longer dangerious…good is’nt it
John

Is that a real life 1st hand experience or a mmtm type scenario?

Because going off Vosa, if it was on the gross then surely it would just be a warning and if it was just on 1 front axle it would come under 9.99% so only attract an endorseable £60 fine.

The plant wagon goes on the design weight, so not any old 8 legged can run at whatever weight. I thought the most available at the moment was 40t?

3300John:
Hiya…this driving game is a killer, iam glad its over for me. if you overload a 8 legger
by half a ton, its dangerious the brakes could fail the steering isn’t made for that weight.
BUT if you have a 8 legger Plant lorry (the ones with the sand a gravel hopper)and a mixer
on the back of the truck…44 tons and red diesel IF YOU pay extra road tax. the lorry
is no longer dangerious…good is’nt it
John

Learn something new everyday didn’t know those could run at 44t

Muckaway:
When I drove 26tonners, I’d not go out above 26260 and was told this was the maximum tolerance.
I suppose on an 8wheeler it should be 32320 but I tend to only have it loaded to 31500.

Can I ask this question on the subject of weights?
We write our own delivery tickets and I’ve been told to “tare” my wagon at 12500. The thing is it really weighs 13500, thus when I have my legal weight of 18500 on my ticket reads 19500. I know this breaches weights and measures laws so I keep the firm happy by putting 12500 as the tare, and when I’m carrying 18500 I put 31000 down instead of 32000.
Am I breaking any laws? Remembering I’m not overweight or falsifying the payload.

What I don’t get is why doesn’t the firm just buy a wagon with a decent payload in the first place instead of messing around with changing the tare.

Mullens:

3300John:
Hiya…this driving game is a killer, iam glad its over for me. if you overload a 8 legger
by half a ton, its dangerious the brakes could fail the steering isn’t made for that weight.
BUT if you have a 8 legger Plant lorry (the ones with the sand a gravel hopper)and a mixer
on the back of the truck…44 tons and red diesel IF YOU pay extra road tax. the lorry
is no longer dangerious…good is’nt it
John

Learn something new everyday didn’t know those could run at 44t

Nor did i, how the hell do they get round the axle max weights.