As i’ve always said, there’s 2 types of hauliers, ones that ask what the rate is & ones that tell the customer what the rate is, Whites are in the latter category along with McBurney’s etc…
Silver_Surfer:
As i’ve always said, there’s 2 types of hauliers, ones that ask what the rate is & ones that tell the customer what the rate is, Whites are in the latter category along with McBurney’s etc…
That’s rubbish, we have customers who offer us work @ their rate, take it or leave it and sometimes when we ‘leave it’ they come back and ask “what do you want”?!!! Recently one asked us to quote for 700 tons from their depot to a packing plant in Merseyside, it was ammonium nitrate so ADR & they were having trouble getting it shifted. We knew they were having trouble as we’d been asked to quote for ‘this’ by 4 different companies but in the end we got it AT OUR RATE from the principal, during the contract we did other work @ their rate & have since done 600 tons from Teeside to their depot @ OUR RATE.
What does that make us then??
Ross.
bigrod1608:
dbt:
bigrod1608:
im sure people say theres no money in trucking , thats all i here, whites must be doing something right to afford kit like they have and change all the time. its an obscene amount of money to fork out for a unit…£150K + how much work does that truck have to do to pay for itself,its mind bending…mr white do you pay outright or is it on the never never ■■?i think its best to let the truck pay for itself, use other peoples money (banks and finance) leave yours in the bank…
after all, the truck is there to earn money… and look the ■■■■■■■■ tooi totally agree but the month payments must be horrendous, and if there all on chucky thats a hell of a lot of dough to find every month before the rest of the bills !!!
If you take that to its conclusion why doesn’t every haulier run iveco stralis or Renault premiums which are probaly the two cheapest tractors to buy.
If you have the work where you can justify the cost of a new v8 scania or fh16 its your choice to shell out on one or buy something cheaper and have more in the bank every month but get less when you sell it.
No hard and fast rules but what suits you at the time.
WhiteWhiteWhite:
robroy:
Hiya all, (Steptoe/Victor Meldrew here from page 15) 18 pages
,seriously?? don’t any of you lot EVER take the ■■■■ out of the Eddie Spotters again, that’s all I’m saying, Well done Mr White for your self publicising excercise
, but judging by some of the rectal tongue massaging displayed on here I’m wondering if you do actually walk on water,if so watch out mate …it is Easter. As I said before they’re only [zb] ing trucks!!
Give me a couple of minutes while I dive for cover
I was considering deleting the whole thread to be honest… I only put the original thread up just to show our new truck 12 months ago… (as we were very proud of owning an R730) But if people keep showing interest and asking me questions it would be rude not to reply. There was an awful lot of negativity in the earlier posts but the latter ones are quite interisting in my opinion.
I dont walk on water, or turn water into wine or feed 5000 with a loaf or bread & 2 fishes, But I do have an tightly run transport company with good kit, good work & good drivers…Moderators please can you delete this whole thread if any of you read this. (I tried but couldn’t work out how to do it)
Cheers WWW
You would do your business a dis service by not continuing to post to ‘your’ thread on here, forum membership requires you to be a hard arse to get the best out of them but they can reward a business from positive contribution which your posts are.
kr79:
bigrod1608:
dbt:
bigrod1608:
im sure people say theres no money in trucking , thats all i here, whites must be doing something right to afford kit like they have and change all the time. its an obscene amount of money to fork out for a unit…£150K + how much work does that truck have to do to pay for itself,its mind bending…mr white do you pay outright or is it on the never never ■■?i think its best to let the truck pay for itself, use other peoples money (banks and finance) leave yours in the bank…
after all, the truck is there to earn money… and look the ■■■■■■■■ tooi totally agree but the month payments must be horrendous, and if there all on chucky thats a hell of a lot of dough to find every month before the rest of the bills !!!
If you take that to its conclusion why doesn’t every haulier run iveco stralis or Renault premiums which are probaly the two cheapest tractors to buy.
If you have the work where you can justify the cost of a new v8 scania or fh16 its your choice to shell out on one or buy something cheaper and have more in the bank every month but get less when you sell it.
No hard and fast rules but what suits you at the time.
what conclusion??
even a 10 year old scania is better then most brand new trucks ever will be, theres nothing like a big V8 scania i love them to bits, i mean if you had 100k cash sat in the bank why use your money to buy it? finance it and keep YOUR money in the bank and make the truck pay for itself, better the money in your bank then someone else’s…
only time id buy a truck outright is if its too old to finance
dbt:
kr79:
bigrod1608:
dbt:
bigrod1608:
im sure people say theres no money in trucking , thats all i here, whites must be doing something right to afford kit like they have and change all the time. its an obscene amount of money to fork out for a unit…£150K + how much work does that truck have to do to pay for itself,its mind bending…mr white do you pay outright or is it on the never never ■■?i think its best to let the truck pay for itself, use other peoples money (banks and finance) leave yours in the bank…
after all, the truck is there to earn money… and look the ■■■■■■■■ tooi totally agree but the month payments must be horrendous, and if there all on chucky thats a hell of a lot of dough to find every month before the rest of the bills !!!
If you take that to its conclusion why doesn’t every haulier run iveco stralis or Renault premiums which are probaly the two cheapest tractors to buy.
If you have the work where you can justify the cost of a new v8 scania or fh16 its your choice to shell out on one or buy something cheaper and have more in the bank every month but get less when you sell it.
No hard and fast rules but what suits you at the time.what conclusion??
even a 10 year old scania is better then most brand new trucks ever will be, theres nothing like a big V8 scania i love them to bits, i mean if you had 100k cash sat in the bank why use your money to buy it? finance it and keep YOUR money in the bank and make the truck pay for itself, better the money in your bank then someone else’s…
only time id buy a truck outright is if its too old to finance
I mean the fact a new v8 scania will cost more per month I agree you would be have to be mad to pay cash for a new truck.
If you can afford to finance a new scania that’s your choice. Same as it would be your choice to run a 10 year old erf if you want to.
dbt:
even a 10 year old scania is better then most brand new trucks ever will be,
Really, in what repects?
Ross.
dbt:
kr79:
bigrod1608:
dbt:
bigrod1608:
im sure people say theres no money in trucking , thats all i here, whites must be doing something right to afford kit like they have and change all the time. its an obscene amount of money to fork out for a unit…£150K + how much work does that truck have to do to pay for itself,its mind bending…mr white do you pay outright or is it on the never never ■■?i think its best to let the truck pay for itself, use other peoples money (banks and finance) leave yours in the bank…
after all, the truck is there to earn money… and look the ■■■■■■■■ tooi totally agree but the month payments must be horrendous, and if there all on chucky thats a hell of a lot of dough to find every month before the rest of the bills !!!
If you take that to its conclusion why doesn’t every haulier run iveco stralis or Renault premiums which are probaly the two cheapest tractors to buy.
If you have the work where you can justify the cost of a new v8 scania or fh16 its your choice to shell out on one or buy something cheaper and have more in the bank every month but get less when you sell it.
No hard and fast rules but what suits you at the time.what conclusion??
even a 10 year old scania is better then most brand new trucks ever will be, theres nothing like a big V8 scania i love them to bits, i mean if you had 100k cash sat in the bank why use your money to buy it? finance it and keep YOUR money in the bank and make the truck pay for itself, better the money in your bank then someone else’s…
only time id buy a truck outright is if its too old to finance
like a 10 year old scania that is still way overpriced at £20,000 
Dafydd, you do talk some crap at times
If someone is prepared to pay that its not overpriced
bigr250:
dbt:
even a 10 year old scania is better then most brand new trucks ever will be,Really, in what repects?
Ross.
too many examples of man’s/iveco’s/renaults breaking at not even 2 years old, i drove a scania with 2.3 million kms on and the engine still pulled like a train, i know of many many more well over a million km’s with no worries,
old saying scania and volvo 10 year trucks, everything else you throw away after 5… 3 in some cases
im not goin into detail on the examples as ill be here all night,
bigr250:
dbt:
even a 10 year old scania is better then most brand new trucks ever will be,Really, in what repects?
Ross.
too many examples of man’s/iveco’s/renaults breaking at not even 2 years old, i drove a scania with 2.3 million kms on and the engine still pulled like a train, i know of many many more well over a million km’s with no worries,
old saying scania and volvo 10 year trucks, everything else you throw away after 5… 3 in some cases
im not goin into detail on the examples as ill be here all night,
shuttlespanker:
dbt:
kr79:
bigrod1608:
dbt:
bigrod1608:
im sure people say theres no money in trucking , thats all i here, whites must be doing something right to afford kit like they have and change all the time. its an obscene amount of money to fork out for a unit…£150K + how much work does that truck have to do to pay for itself,its mind bending…mr white do you pay outright or is it on the never never ■■?i think its best to let the truck pay for itself, use other peoples money (banks and finance) leave yours in the bank…
after all, the truck is there to earn money… and look the ■■■■■■■■ tooi totally agree but the month payments must be horrendous, and if there all on chucky thats a hell of a lot of dough to find every month before the rest of the bills !!!
If you take that to its conclusion why doesn’t every haulier run iveco stralis or Renault premiums which are probaly the two cheapest tractors to buy.
If you have the work where you can justify the cost of a new v8 scania or fh16 its your choice to shell out on one or buy something cheaper and have more in the bank every month but get less when you sell it.
No hard and fast rules but what suits you at the time.what conclusion??
even a 10 year old scania is better then most brand new trucks ever will be, theres nothing like a big V8 scania i love them to bits, i mean if you had 100k cash sat in the bank why use your money to buy it? finance it and keep YOUR money in the bank and make the truck pay for itself, better the money in your bank then someone else’s…
only time id buy a truck outright is if its too old to financelike a 10 year old scania that is still way overpriced at £20,000
Dafydd, you do talk some crap at times
im not talking crap, but as usual i must be because its a scania and not a donkey lorry is it
what 2003 scania is 20k rob?
Ok big R, there’s 2 types of hauliers, those that never get the rate they want and those that sometimes do. Jeez, talk about splitting hairs.
Silver_Surfer:
Ok big R, there’s 2 types of hauliers, those that never get the rate they want and those that sometimes do. Jeez, talk about splitting hairs.
There is money to be made in transport. Good money. There are a lot of British Haulage Firms doing well and flying the flag (not just us)… You need your own work though, subbing for the likes of Kent based freight forwarders etc etc etc isn’t going to make you a millionaire… And these owner drivers that spend £100k + on a truck with every conceivable extra on them, is in my opionion a bit silly, when they are only subbing for someone else. When Ray started as an owner driver in 1992 he had a beat up old Scania and drove it to the bone, when it died he got another beat up old Scania and did the same…
If we could not afford to run the big V8’s then we wouldn’t have them. In the long run (over a 5 year purchase) the more expensive bigger horse power trucks save money. We have tried & tested this method, I just sold a 2008 R620 Scania that we had from New.Nearly 900,000km on the clock, Sold it for a decent price and I can count the number of times it let me down in the nearly 5 years that we had it on one hand, I had a renault salesman come to see me the other day and I asked him how long the premiums would last and he told me 3 years 600,000kms. It is quite simple ““YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR””
We have got the business we have through careful planning, risk taking, right trucks / trailers / drivers for the job, making the right decision at the right time, trusting your instincts & a bit of luck… Last week we had an really urgent load of meat that needed to go non stop to Italy, I didn’t find out about the load untill late in the evening, by early morning the trailer was collected, Changed over in Calais at Lunchtime, Changed over in Lyon late evening and delivered into Florence 1st thing the following day. normally a 3 day trip, by the time the trailer was collected, just over 24 hours later the delivery was made. That is the 1st class service that we offer our customers… It is not always down to price. I can plan a trailer to go from one end of Europe to the other without stopping, by changing the trailer over with a fresh driver on route as many times that is needed. It takes a lot of difficult planning to do this but it is what we are best at. I have got the best team of drivers I have ever had at the moment and they make my job easier by knowing the job inside out.
WWW
WhiteWhiteWhite:
I was considering deleting the whole thread to be honest… I only put the original thread up just to show our new truck 12 months ago… (as we were very proud of owning an R730) But if people keep showing interest and asking me questions it would be rude not to reply. There was an awful lot of negativity in the earlier posts but the latter ones are quite interisting in my opinion.
I dont walk on water, or turn water into wine or feed 5000 with a loaf or bread & 2 fishes, But I do have an tightly run transport company with good kit, good work & good drivers…
I was told by a very wise life-long haulier when I started out “Whatever you do, everybody else will have a better idea than you of what you should be doing, some people will wish you well but some will be praying that you fail and the more that a person is a failure themselves, the more they will want you to fail, you’ll attract a lot of jealousy from life’s losers” and I would have to say that has turned out to be a 100% accurate prediction.
If people aren’t interested in this thread, there are plenty more to choose from so not re-visiting it might be the best option for such folk?
Harry Monk:
If people aren’t interested in this thread, there are plenty more to choose from so not re-visiting it might be the best option for such folk?
This has beenmy point with a couple of the detractors on this, & other threads. If you don’t like BIG powered trucks & think they’re a waste of money that’s fine, but why criticise a company that’s clearly doing well & tell them they should be be running Renault Premiums??
If you don’t like the subject matter on this, or any other threads, don’t read them & certainly don’t make stupid & negative comments!!!
Ross.
Harry Monk:
WhiteWhiteWhite:
I was considering deleting the whole thread to be honest… I only put the original thread up just to show our new truck 12 months ago… (as we were very proud of owning an R730) But if people keep showing interest and asking me questions it would be rude not to reply. There was an awful lot of negativity in the earlier posts but the latter ones are quite interisting in my opinion.
I dont walk on water, or turn water into wine or feed 5000 with a loaf or bread & 2 fishes, But I do have an tightly run transport company with good kit, good work & good drivers…I was told by a very wise life-long haulier when I started out “Whatever you do, everybody else will have a better idea than you of what you should be doing, some people will wish you well but some will be praying that you fail and the more that a person is a failure themselves, the more they will want you to fail, you’ll attract a lot of jealousy from life’s losers” and I would have to say that has turned out to be a 100% accurate prediction.
If people aren’t interested in this thread, there are plenty more to choose from so not re-visiting it might be the best option for such folk?
Jesus Harry. You haven’t got time to be on here, your supposed to be busy pulling a flat around Kent for christs sake.
Looking smart now. Whats the inside like. Does it have leather