Other lorry drivers playing silly burgers

Juddian:
Life’s too short to let it get to you, the days of the lorry driver are over, the die hards of all ages still taking a pride in their profession stand out like a sore thumb among the dross and good on them for not joining the race to the lowest common denominator bottom.

I’m learning in my current new job that being professional is a bad move. :unamused:

In regards to trying to be professional and help the management make their lives and job easier is not appreciated. The basic errors you see is astonishing.

Then driver to driver you’re detested too…the “new” semi low loader driver won’t even acknowledge me let alone speak to me.
I do drive a rigid now so must accept this :sunglasses:

Unfortunately I won’t stop trying to be professional by dressing smart in a dirty job, work smart to make my own life easier and potentially make them more money without upsetting customers, keep the lorry looking smart in a dirty job and generally trying not to appear a ■■■■ to the general viewing public by being considerate to all road users whom I meet. Which is a struggle in itself :laughing:

The trouble is trying to be as professional as you can be makes you a "black"sheep. I just shut my mouth and do instead.

:laughing:

If you’ve seen me on my travels you’ll know “black” is apt because of my cab fashion is just black.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :blush:

Amazing how many people you ■■■■ off doing a job properly and quickly by not sinking to I can’t give a ■■■■ attitude, which usually takes longer and ■■■■■ everyone’s day up in the end…even those who supposedly don’t give a ■■■■!!!

First time I’ve ever experienced this in “lorrying” but hey I have to experience what most on here have to daily in their job. As I ain’t no better than them in reality, so have to share in their horrendous daily life.

Its an eye opener especially peers behaving the way they have done in the workplace and on the road :neutral_face:

Good job noone has my mobile number and we don’t have cab phones…makes life so much more worthwhile. :smiley:

C

Constantine:

Juddian:
Life’s too short to let it get to you, the days of the lorry driver are over, the die hards of all ages still taking a pride in their profession stand out like a sore thumb among the dross and good on them for not joining the race to the lowest common denominator bottom.

I’m learning in my current new job that being professional is a bad move. :unamused:

In regards to trying to be professional and help the management make their lives and job easier is not appreciated. The basic errors you see is astonishing.

Then driver to driver you’re detested too…the “new” semi low loader driver won’t even acknowledge me let alone speak to me.
I do drive a rigid now so must accept this :sunglasses:

Unfortunately I won’t stop trying to be professional by dressing smart in a dirty job, work smart to make my own life easier and potentially make them more money without upsetting customers, keep the lorry looking smart in a dirty job and generally trying not to appear a [zb] to the general viewing public by being considerate to all road users whom I meet. Which is a struggle in itself :laughing:

The trouble is trying to be as professional as you can be makes you a "black"sheep. I just shut my mouth and do instead.

:laughing:

If you’ve seen me on my travels you’ll know “black” is apt because of my cab fashion is just black.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :blush:

Amazing how many people you ■■■■ off doing a job properly and quickly by not sinking to I can’t give a [zb] attitude, which usually takes longer and [zb] everyone’s day up in the end…even those who supposedly don’t give a [zb]!!!

First time I’ve ever experienced this in “lorrying” but hey I have to experience what most on here have to daily in their job. As I ain’t no better than them in reality, so have to share in their horrendous daily life.

Its an eye opener especially peers behaving the way they have done in the workplace and on the road :neutral_face:

Good job noone has my mobile number and we don’t have cab phones…makes life so much more worthwhile. :smiley:

C

It’s a good thing in my book to keep customers happy, we do own account work and demos on the various flt’s of all shapes models and sizes. Looking and acting professional is paramount to me and thankfully our other three drivers, we share knowledge of sites and how customers behave, it works and I for one have never had any major issues on site but I am conscious of my driving, not just because the company name is on the side but because I am proud of my driving record and in over 29 years in various driving roles I have never been blame worthy of an accident, or had points.

Suedehead:

TheNewBoy:
I have the swingers to admit I do all of the above…I am running 44 tonne 90% of the time in a 460 engine which is gutless for that weight & as soon as my momentum dies I might as well get out & push so if I can keep my speed I will…going down hill…well that’s another story as I will admit if I want to get passed some one I use the hill & my weight advantage to good use, BUT…I draw the line at 60mph, I have no need to drop the clutch I have gravity

really.

You should try it sometime, stokenchurch hill with a run up I get 30mph in 6 low keeping the revs in the high green section & even got down to 10mph in 3 low the other day

what i hate the most is car drivers joining the motorway not looking in the mirror matching up the speed of the lorry "asking"you to slow down or change lane just speed up for goodnes sake and drive!!!

TheNewBoy:
I have the swingers to admit I do all of the above…I am running 44 tonne 90% of the time in a 460 engine which is gutless for that weight…

You should try it sometime, stokenchurch hill with a run up I get 30mph in 6 low keeping the revs in the high green section & even got down to 10mph in 3 low the other day

My old chap used to do that hill at 44t in a 450 Foden and then a 420 Scania and never complained. Going further back we’ve both done the same hill in 300 bhp Fodens at 32t, so less bhp/tonne than you’ve quoted.
Going way back the old chap did the same hill at 30t in a Gardner 270. Point being we’re all being spoiled nowadays with high bhp. I get the odd tipper tarts scoffing because our 8w is “only” a 360 and not 400 odd like everyone elses’.

Juddian:
Very very seldom do i get any of that from other lorries, cos until they prove otherwise i assume the other lorry is manned by an imbecile, and an imbecile should always be in front of you so you can keep an eye on their chimp like antics, so if someone wants to muck me about they’d better be prepared for a slow journey, they can hold me out in the middle lane all day if they want, after a mile or so they can’t stand 51mph so they floor it and clear off, don’t let them get to you.

Luckily i’ve got all the time in the world, so set me cruise to 51mph or if i’m in a devil may care frame of mind i whap it right up to 52, let the world and all the lunatics go to hell…sometimes i actually overtake the odd motor, been known to increase speed to a whole 55 to get past Mr Tesco, was a time when Argos were set to 50 and i’d have to go to all that effort of overtaking them too but their new motors seem to be faster now thankfully, so some days i never overtake a single vehicle, excellent.

It wasn’t always like this of course, but increasingly, as the job has been dumbed down to chauffering only (and paid accordingly) and the lorries designed so the only input needed from the nob behind the wheel is to steer (which appears too difficult for some judging by how many manage to smash into each other), the percentages of nobs to drivers is going the wrong way at an increasing rate.

Life’s too short to let it get to you, the days of the lorry driver are over, the die hards of all ages still taking a pride in their profession stand out like a sore thumb among the dross and good on them for not joining the race to the lowest common denominator bottom.

This 100%

Lorry drivers are well down my list of folks I get wound up about at the moment ,London taxis,drivers ,bikers ,cyclists and just ignorant Londoners in general are

Times change move on
Attitudes change move on
Expectations change move on
Drive like thinking of the children be safe be sure be humane

mattecube:
Times change move on
Attitudes change move on
Expectations change move on
Drive like thinking of the children be safe be sure be humane

Fair enough mate.
I’ll bear that in mind,. I’ ll ‘move on’ go out on Monday and drive like a complete ■■■■, because you said times change. :unamused:

Although there are no doubt folks out there who love to ■■■■ a fellow driver off, most of the issues experienced by the op are caused by riding the limiter. This gives you no room for acceleration.

If one learns to cruise at well below max speed then one has a much easier road in life.
This goes for everthing really, once you are aware of your limitations life becomes much smoother.

My truck is limited to 55 yet I cruise all day at 51 which is the first cruise setting, this allows me to use the second cruise setting of 55 for overtakes and Fridays. I can also knock her inyo neutral on downhill sections and acheive almost 70mph when heavy, but this is a bit dangerous and best left to us box jockeys.

If everyone around you is flat out then having something left in your pocket becomes a massive advantage. Getting stranded letting a fellow sister in is an occupational hazard, simply pull in behind and spend the next 50miles contemplating your revenge.

Learning how other road users act is part and parcel to this job, expect to be shafted and maybe one day you may meet a fellow trucker who surprises you by easing off to let you back in, that may just be me. Unless its a Friday then consider yourself stranded… :wink:

Also dont be to quick to ovetake, judge the situation and let the other truck reach their cruising speed before considering it, you may be lighter and have faster acceleration but the truck your passing could have a faster top speed.

Theres more advanced stuff like assesing another trucks load and upcoming gradients but this comes with time.

Talking of coming I had ■■■ last night… :slight_smile:

Remember we are drivers, learn to enjoy the journey and you will enjoy the job.

Dipper_Dave:
If one learns to cruise at well below max speed then one has a much easier road in life.

+1

You can’t educate cabbage though. Brace yourself for a backlash from the two-speed vegetables Dave.

TheNewBoy:

Suedehead:

TheNewBoy:
I have the swingers to admit I do all of the above…I am running 44 tonne 90% of the time in a 460 engine which is gutless for that weight & as soon as my momentum dies I might as well get out & push so if I can keep my speed I will…going down hill…well that’s another story as I will admit if I want to get passed some one I use the hill & my weight advantage to good use, BUT…I draw the line at 60mph, I have no need to drop the clutch I have gravity

really.

You should try it sometime, stokenchurch hill with a run up I get 30mph in 6 low keeping the revs in the high green section & even got down to 10mph in 3 low the other day

Point i was trying to make is that i don"t consider a 460 gutless for 44t.
Used to do regular Itie in a 330(ok only @ 40t)and it coped well enough.
From memory there were a few hills between here and Naples.

Contraflow:

Dipper_Dave:
If one learns to cruise at well below max speed then one has a much easier road in life.

+1

You can’t educate cabbage though. Brace yourself for a backlash from the two-speed vegetables Dave.

Opinions are like ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ has one & they are entitled to it

robroy:

mattecube:
Times change move on
Attitudes change move on
Expectations change move on
Drive like thinking of the children be safe be sure be humane

Fair enough mate.
I’ll bear that in mind,. I’ ll ‘move on’ go out on Monday and drive like a complete [zb], because you said times change. :unamused:[/quot

mad as a cow

My wagons limiter is at 52mph. I tend to drive on motorways at 50mph. Stay in the left hand lane and folk get past me easily. Flash in other drivers when they are past me.

No stressin

If it’s busy I’ll back off and drive with a bit in reserve, if the M’way is clear then I’ll put it on the limiter until I start to catch something up I’ll match their speed until an easy overtake is on, sometimes I mistime it in which case I’ll back off unless I’m most of the way past. If someone else mistimes it and starts to struggle past me, again I’ll back off let them past then flash them in. Its not hard and at worst only costs you a couple of minutes on a run.

Worst I’ve experienced was a UK Mail driver in the bad snow last year, lanes 1 & 2 were fairly clear heading south on the M74. This fkwit joined at the Abington junction, I saw him and a car joining so moved into lane 2 in plenty of time to let him join, next thing this chimp swings across with the back of his trailer level with my cab to overtake the car, forcing me onto the uncleared lane3 and proceeds to match my speed, even though I tried backing right, off speeded up, what ever I did he matched me, keeps me hanging out in lane 3 until close to Elvanfoot eventually I’d slowed down enough or he’d got bored so I made sure to let the assole get well in front out of the way. I really hope that ignorant, dangerous cnt is no longer on the road.

ezydriver:
It’s probably got something to do with their twitchy limpy leg hitting the accelerator. Do they wear bluetooth headsets?

You’re only ■■■■■■ because you know the agency drivers are on more money than you’ll ever earn…

So glad I don’t have to drive on motorways or indeed very little on A roads either. I work within 30 miles of base and am happy with that arrangement. The standards of HGV driving is like the standard of most other driving, generally far worse than it was 20 years ago. Switch on the cruise control, with little thought for separation distances, traffic flow or weather conditions and you have the template for many HGV drivers nowadays.

a lot of this started when the trend to move over a lane and "let in " a newcomer arriving on a sliproad. this newcomer sensed he now had the upperhand and starts playing the slowing up/speeding up game .

i now have a fixed policy i dont move over ,even if it means the newcomer has to slow possibly stop in the sliproad and wait for a space thats how it always used to be ,the safe way .

i also never "let in " anyone if im in say a queue exiting a car park in my car , its not courtesy it simply lets some other harry ahead of you they can wait 20 secs cant they

Drift:
Its just general knobishness, as courtesy will cost about a whole 40 seconds on a 2 hour journey.
My goat is gotten when they start an Elephant race, the wagon behind decides he wants to overtake you (fair enough) but up hill and his wagon has not got the testicles to get past you (hark me in my 340 :laughing: )
but Mr billybollox still goes for it, sorry I am not easing off on my hard earned charge at that hill, hang it out sucker :smiling_imp:
Every other time I will let them in out even hockey cokey as I like a chilled relaxing drive and to get home in one piece :wink:

Totally agree with the overtaking on a hill section. Lost count of the times on sections like the s/b section between junction 29-28 on the M1 a truck decides to overtake just a we approach the incline yet is obviously running at close to gross weight as when they get nearly halfway past they start slowing down and we are both doing about 40-45mph side by side I slow down even more just to allow the numpty to past and so he can get in front and the line of cars and trucks running lighter can get passed.
It doesn’t take much engaging of brain when to know when is a good place to overtake another truck going on what weight you are carrying and the layout of the road.