Last night I was in the centre of Walsall at some traffic lights
Nosing about while waiting I looked down into the car stopped next to me. The driver was texting on his mobile and neatly folded on the back seat of his car was a VOSA hi-viz
Nice big Audi too
Nicely spotted GF! Shame about being in Walsall though 
good_friend:
Last night I was in the centre of Walsall at some traffic lightsNosing about while waiting I looked down into the car stopped next to me. The driver was texting on his mobile and neatly folded on the back seat of his car was a VOSA hi-viz
Nice big Audi too
Probably texting to the checkpoint up ahead that there was a nosy truck driver waiting along side and that said driver should be pulled in and the book thrown at him for not concentrating on the driving aspect of his job.
Driver of vehicle texting whilst stationary with the handbrake on, what was he thinking, he could’ve mowed down a passing moth…
Conor:
Driver of vehicle texting whilst stationary with the handbrake on, what was he thinking, he could’ve mowed down a passing moth…
I think the point is that technically its still illegal.
I got 3 points and a fine for moving my phone while stationary, in neutral with the handbrake on.
The-Snowman:
Conor:
Driver of vehicle texting whilst stationary with the handbrake on, what was he thinking, he could’ve mowed down a passing moth…I think the point is that technically its still illegal.
I got 3 points and a fine for moving my phone while stationary, in neutral with the handbrake on.
Pretty much this the last few years, altho it’s not an actual law the courts, in recent cases have been going along with, if the keys in the ignition you are in control of the vehicle. But there also comes a case that spins to mind, way back when around 1997 where a driver sleeping (after a good night out) in his car was prosecuted for sleeping in the drivers seat, with the keys in his pocket.
So who knows unless it’s clearly written in black on white.
If you are asleep in the back seat of a vehicle drunk, let’s say, with keys in your possession you are drunk in charge of a motor vehicle and arrestable. Harsh but true.
with Beverley Bell’s Grand Prix demonstration on the highways the DVSA are going for gold at riding rough shod through town. You can hear the clink of Spurs when they walk around the weigh bridges. Ye hah sheriff! Bet after work they all hang round a saloon style gambling den dealing stud.
Casper68:
If you are asleep in the back seat of a vehicle drunk, let’s say, with keys in your possession you are drunk in charge of a motor vehicle and arrestable. Harsh but true.
which opens the can of worms for having a couple of beers when your off duty and kipping in your bunk whilst cabbing it,or in your happy camper van parked up for the night whilst not on private property…a hotel or pub carpark deemed not to be private etc. 
its all ok till pc pondslime jobsorth plod decides to make a test case out of you?
dieseldog999:
Casper68:
If you are asleep in the back seat of a vehicle drunk, let’s say, with keys in your possession you are drunk in charge of a motor vehicle and arrestable. Harsh but true.which opens the can of worms for having a couple of beers when your off duty and kipping in your bunk whilst cabbing it,or in your happy camper van parked up for the night whilst not on private property…a hotel or pub carpark deemed not to be private etc.
It’s true that you can be done for being in possession of a motor vehicle whilst over the legal alcohol limit, but it should be remembered that’s not the same as drink driving and doesn’t carry an automatic driving disqualification.
I suppose it’s still going to be a worrying time for a lorry driver but not as bad as driving while over the limit which carries an automatic disqualification.
Key word is intent. If you’re fast asleep in your camper or lorry and are on 9 off, plod comes and wakes you up.
If you then fail the breath test, a decent brief at court with argue that you’d no intention to drive.
Intent is the key word.
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True, but it’s still for the Defendant to prove that there is no prospect of them using the vehicle.
A friend of mine fell asleep in his car after a skinfull, he put the keys in the glove box and went to sleep in the back but still got pulled for been in charge of the vehicle whilst unfit!
But he didn’t get a mandatory 12 month ban though did he?
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Casper68:
True, but it’s still for the Defendant to prove that there is no prospect of them using the vehicle.
unless the truck/car/campervan parked next to you goes on fire and its prudent to drive away from the fire…or if the macodougall diddycoys are in the middle or removing your diesel and wake you up? whats the chances of you bailing out and leaving the thing abandoned…
good_friend:
Last night I was in the centre of Walsall at some traffic lightsNosing about while waiting I looked down into the car stopped next to me. The driver was texting on his mobile and neatly folded on the back seat of his car was a VOSA hi-viz
Nice big Audi too
Audi you say 
mick.mh2racing:
Key word is intent. If you’re fast asleep in your camper or lorry and are on 9 off, plod comes and wakes you up.
If you then fail the breath test, a decent brief at court with argue that you’d no intention to drive.
Intent is the key word.That’s why you hide the keys away somewhere, so you can’t be done for “Drunk in charge”. Remember that old monopoly card? It’s a bit more than a £20 fine these days though, although I’d argue that in real terms - £20 was a LOT more back in the 60’s and 70’s…
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Casper68:
If you are asleep in the back seat of a vehicle drunk, let’s say, with keys in your possession you are drunk in charge of a motor vehicle and arrestable. Harsh but true.
Ive always wondered about this and tramping.
If i have a few beers say 4 for the sake of argument. Chances are ill be over the limit(even if i wont feel anything from 4 poxy beers) and Captain plod knocks on my door and breathalses me. Am i technically drunk in charge of a vehicle?
All this assuming in on my daily rest not pulled up in an rdc bored.
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I should have read the full thread. My bad
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