So, we are not far away from September 2014, when the time of reckoning is among us, are the rates going up■■? I think a raise of £1 an hour wouldn’t be unreasonable for a qualification that has the word “Professional” in…
Some of us have already done 35h and it still hasn’t made a difference to the pay structure.
Nice to dream though 
dar1976:
Some of us have already done 35h and it still hasn’t made a difference to the pay structure.
but it is not effective yet, once 2014 is here, many drivers are allegedly walking away and as a SE driver I charge what I charge, if they are desperate enough, they will pay it… simples
Honestly, I dont see £1 an hour unreasonable at all to say I need 5 days off and need to pay £60-100 a course and travel.
i would like to think the same as you Trubster, it’s about time we had a bargaining lever… I haven’t had a rise in 6 years… £3 an hour would be even better… that’s only about 2 or 3 percent average over the years.
I wouldn’t hold your breath…
trubster:
So, we are not far away from September 2014, when the time of reckoning is among us, are the rates going up■■? I think a raise of £1 an hour wouldn’t be unreasonable for a qualification that has the word “Professional” in…
You expect to be paid an extra £1 per hour for a qualification that most people accept is totally worthless 
Sorry but it’s not going to happen 
Anyway there will be more immigrants here soon so don’t worry about rates going up, just hope they don’t go down.
http://www.truckingtopics.co.uk/swedishtruckerst.html
This could be what we need over here.
It would be interesting to gain insight into how many agency drivers have the DCPC. I have mentioned it to those I have come across at RDC’s Cafe etc and non had done the DCPC, and as was mentioned earlier in thread, they intend to quit by Sept 2014.
ATM that is my intention as well. I have no wish to sacrifice a week with no pay and fork out £350 - £500 for the course fees. However if Agency’s start to sweat a bit as we get nearer to the day, I might think again. As for the influx of foreigners - it may happen but they will still need DCPC.
Remember folks: Supply and demand is a funny thing. If Crap ever became Money, our arses would start to heal up.
The big winners in such a new economy would be those taking daily laxatives. … Or, the RDC waiting room set perhaps. 
“In the land of crap, the one with the brown eye is king.”
tachograph:
trubster:
So, we are not far away from September 2014, when the time of reckoning is among us, are the rates going up■■? I think a raise of £1 an hour wouldn’t be unreasonable for a qualification that has the word “Professional” in…You expect to be paid an extra £1 per hour for a qualification that most people accept is totally worthless
Sorry but it’s not going to happen
Anyway there will be more immigrants here soon so don’t worry about rates going up, just hope they don’t go down.
There are firms now requesting that you have hours on the card before you apply
Employers, be reassured. There will be no shortage of drivers with the relevant dcpc. Everyone will have done the necessary by sept 2014 and there will be an abundance of East European drivers available and insurable. Also, I will be available, through the agency at what I consider to be an appropriate rate for the job. I can be PM’d for details of those rates
trubster:
So, we are not far away from September 2014, when the time of reckoning is among us, are the rates going up■■? I think a raise of £1 an hour wouldn’t be unreasonable for a qualification that has the word “Professional” in…
Keep dreaming kid.
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A refusal of the insurance industry to cover the haulage industry would be a total game changer at this point.
Imagine a world where firms had to pay out of their own pocket for damage to vehicles, property, and people - theirs, staffs, or the public’s.
Suddenly the “9 points OK” or “remedial in English” might not find it quite so easy to get a job, and crunch a wagon under a bridge on day 2, mow down a bus queue on month two, crash through the portacabin transport office in year two or even plough into someone’s arse fast asleep on decade two… 
Those few left, those happy few, will then be able to call the shots as to terms and conditions. Pay for 9-5 monday to friday might not go anywhere, but just about all other shifts and hourages would.
Sadly all the agencies numerous employers as had previously been said will be queuing up to sign up the many Bulgarians Romanians who will take the opportunity to come to these shores from the 1st January 2014 when their is further relaxation of immigration controls.
Politicans keep saying they are going to be tough on immigration but just more hot air from a bunch of hypocrites.
So is an immigrant DCPC going to consist of modules like
(1) The Cherry Family - English Language for Beginners.
(2) How to attend a benefits office, because you cannot possibly afford to live over here without numerous top-ups.
(3) How to find an interpreter
(4) Knowing your rights under European Law
(5) Crimes you can commit and expect to get away with scot-free
(6) Bribeable Officials expecting your bung
(7) Lawyer’s numbers you can call should you be pulled up for anything whatsoever
(8) The address of the nearest western union office, so you’ve got somewhere to send all that laundered money
(9) Sheds with Beds operators that’ll give you a kickback if you claim maximum amounts of housing benefits without complaint for the cupboard you’ll be given to live in.
i personally believe that with or without the dcpc, all drivers should be on about £30,000 per annum,lets face it without drivers this country would soon come to a standstill,as regards the foreigners they will find a way of getting their dcpc illegally or otherwise, same as some of them buying their hgvs before coming here and never having driven hgvs before,i myself do not have my dcpc so i will like a lot of drivers have to pay nearer the time when the training companies will take advantage and put the prices up because they know we will need this so called qualification in order to drive hgvs there is also talk about the dcpc being scrapped but i cant see it happening myself
truckman20:
i myself do not have my dcpc so i will like a lot of drivers have to pay nearer the time when the training companies will take advantage and put the prices up because they know we will need this so called qualification in order to drive hgvs
so why wait then?? get it done now 1 day or 2 consecutive evenings a week at around £70 per unit! youve 5 units to do so thats going to be around £350
as opposed to leaving it till this time next year, when i reckon they will be in the region of around £130 per unit… and itll cost £650! seems a false economy to me like! but then im just a tight bugger! 
Winseer:
Remember folks: Supply and demand is a funny thing. If Crap ever became Money, our arses would start to heal up.The big winners in such a new economy would be those taking daily laxatives. … Or, the RDC waiting room set perhaps.
“In the land of crap, the one with the brown eye is king.”
Hahahahaha, FPMSL Quality
Winseer:
A refusal of the insurance industry to cover the haulage industry would be a total game changer at this point.
Imagine a world where firms had to pay out of their own pocket for damage to vehicles, property, and people - theirs, staffs, or the public’s.Suddenly the “9 points OK” or “remedial in English” might not find it quite so easy to get a job, and crunch a wagon under a bridge on day 2, mow down a bus queue on month two, crash through the portacabin transport office in year two or even plough into someone’s arse fast asleep on decade two…
Those few left, those happy few, will then be able to call the shots as to terms and conditions. Pay for 9-5 monday to friday might not go anywhere, but just about all other shifts and hourages would.
In my experience that is what happens now. Any decent size fleet will have a huge excess, at least several thousand pounds, and will pay for most repairs to its own fleet as an operating cost. Any time they get a big 3rd party claim - railway bridge, bus queue, whatever, their premium will go up accordingly. Insurance companies do not expect to make a loss on fleet insurance.