Whats all this…pay for it yourselfs business…why aint your boss paying for your cpc…all the drivers where I work have all done 35hrs so far and only got one more lesson to do before we qualify for our cpc and we get paid while we are doing it…10hrs pay when we sit in the classroom…and whats this "we should all move up to £30.000 a year for having a cpc…I earnt £31.279 last year plus £12.000 tax free allowances… some of you lads need to have a word with your bosses in the coming weeks
MO(Topgun):
Whats all this…pay for it yourselfs business…why aint your boss paying for your cpc…all the drivers where I work have all done 35hrs so far and only got one more lesson to do before we qualify for our cpc and we get paid while we are doing it…10hrs pay when we sit in the classroom…and whats this "we should all move up to £30.000 a year for having a cpc…I earnt £31.279 last year plus £12.000 tax free allowances… some of you lads need to have a word with your bosses in the coming weeks
You do half brag every time you come on here. I have a CPC card with 21 hours on it and still have over 4 years to finish it off. Now that’s my bragging done
Mo. It is the drivers responsibility to ensure they are fully qualified with the amount of CPC hours.
If the employer you currently work for uses some of your pay (instead of paying you a decent rate) to furnish you with CPC hours, then that’s great.
I’d rather go and get a decent rate and pay my own CPC hours. Thanks.
by MO(Topgun) » Sun May 12, 2013 7:36 pm
Whats all this…pay for it yourselfs business…why aint your boss paying for your cpc…all the drivers where I work have all done 35hrs so far and only got one more lesson to do before we qualify for our cpc and we get paid while we are doing it…10hrs pay when we sit in the classroom…and whats this "we should all move up to £30.000 a year for having a cpc…I earnt £31.279 last year plus £12.000 tax free allowances… some of you lads need to have a word with your bosses in the coming weeks
Does the REAL Mo know you are still pretending to be him on here Ady ?
Santa:
Winseer:
A refusal of the insurance industry to cover the haulage industry would be a total game changer at this point.
Imagine a world where firms had to pay out of their own pocket for damage to vehicles, property, and people - theirs, staffs, or the public’s.Suddenly the “9 points OK” or “remedial in English” might not find it quite so easy to get a job, and crunch a wagon under a bridge on day 2, mow down a bus queue on month two, crash through the portacabin transport office in year two or even plough into someone’s arse fast asleep on decade two…
Those few left, those happy few, will then be able to call the shots as to terms and conditions. Pay for 9-5 monday to friday might not go anywhere, but just about all other shifts and hourages would.
In my experience that is what happens now. Any decent size fleet will have a huge excess, at least several thousand pounds, and will pay for most repairs to its own fleet as an operating cost. Any time they get a big 3rd party claim - railway bridge, bus queue, whatever, their premium will go up accordingly. Insurance companies do not expect to make a loss on fleet insurance.
The very large operators don’t use outside insurance, you are correct that they pay there own repair bill.
They apply to the Secretary of State for transport for permission to deposit £500,000 (may have recently increased) with the Accountant General for the Supreme court in London, job done.
Euro:
Employers, be reassured. There will be no shortage of drivers with the relevant dcpc. Everyone will have done the necessary by sept 2014 and there will be an abundance of East European drivers available and insurable. Also, I will be available, through the agency at what I consider to be an appropriate rate for the job. I can be PM’d for details of those rates
Brilliant 
MO(Topgun):
Whats all this…pay for it yourselfs business…why aint your boss paying for your cpc…all the drivers where I work have all done 35hrs so far and only got one more lesson to do before we qualify for our cpc and we get paid while we are doing it…10hrs pay when we sit in the classroom…and whats this "we should all move up to £30.000 a year for having a cpc…I earnt £31.279 last year plus £12.000 tax free allowances… some of you lads need to have a word with your bosses in the coming weeks
Lol I earnt more than that doing day work (no sleeping in the tin box at night). Cpc paid for plus paid 11 hours each time for doing it. No need to have a word with my boss…
MO(Topgun):
Whats all this…pay for it yourselfs business…why aint your boss paying for your cpc…all the drivers where I work have all done 35hrs so far and only got one more lesson to do before we qualify for our cpc and we get paid while we are doing it…10hrs pay when we sit in the classroom…and whats this "we should all move up to £30.000 a year for having a cpc…I earnt £31.279 last year plus £12.000 tax free allowances… some of you lads need to have a word with your bosses in the coming weeks
Good bunch of trainers at your place…You only need 35 hours…and it was handy you got paid 10 hours, for your lesson…cos yer extra tax you paid …PAID for mine when I got laid off…21 hours ADR packages and tanks .and 14 hours of some other ■■■■■ .
mike68:
Santa:
Winseer:
A refusal of the insurance industry to cover the haulage industry would be a total game changer at this point.
Imagine a world where firms had to pay out of their own pocket for damage to vehicles, property, and people - theirs, staffs, or the public’s.Suddenly the “9 points OK” or “remedial in English” might not find it quite so easy to get a job, and crunch a wagon under a bridge on day 2, mow down a bus queue on month two, crash through the portacabin transport office in year two or even plough into someone’s arse fast asleep on decade two…
Those few left, those happy few, will then be able to call the shots as to terms and conditions. Pay for 9-5 monday to friday might not go anywhere, but just about all other shifts and hourages would.
In my experience that is what happens now. Any decent size fleet will have a huge excess, at least several thousand pounds, and will pay for most repairs to its own fleet as an operating cost. Any time they get a big 3rd party claim - railway bridge, bus queue, whatever, their premium will go up accordingly. Insurance companies do not expect to make a loss on fleet insurance.
The very large operators don’t use outside insurance, you are correct that they pay there own repair bill.
They apply to the Secretary of State for transport for permission to deposit £500,000 (may have recently increased) with the Accountant General for the Supreme court in London, job done.
This amount seems pitifully small. That could be gone through in just a single third party damages case, such as a trucker UTI working for the firm in question, putting their wagon through someone’s house, and wiping out a whole family. On close examination it turned out that the employee was not only an illegal, but had merely a “foreign” licence that should not be recognised in this country, and bypassed the company checks because he put his hand up straight away for the abslute crappiest job at the firm for minimum wages.
Fancy lawyers will always attempt to get the company off, rather than the individual, but when the pair are bonded like loctite, the company won’t manage to shake off the dirt.
Dissolve the company, walk away from all liabilities, then start anew is the usual routine for the moment, but surely these clandestine company practices’ days are numbered.
Murdoch and NotW might have managed it, but can we really expect more firms to take this line in the future - merely to avoid paying out fair and square damages to the victims of their corporate crimes?
Alternatively, the firm could just insist on ditching any dodgy drivers in their employ, and not taking any more such drivers on. If that means paying more to attract the better ones then so be it.
I’m still waiting sure. I’m not the one that’s wrong though, THEY are. 
to bungle666,you got a point i suppose 1 day every week for 5 weeks will soon go then no worries about dcpc, cheers
greendalef:
It would be interesting to gain insight into how many agency drivers have the DCPC. I have mentioned it to those I have come across at RDC’s Cafe etc and non had done the DCPC, and as was mentioned earlier in thread, they intend to quit by Sept 2014.ATM that is my intention as well. I have no wish to sacrifice a week with no pay and fork out £350 - £500 for the course fees. However if Agency’s start to sweat a bit as we get nearer to the day, I might think again. As for the influx of foreigners - it may happen but they will still need DCPC.
yes they will need dcpc and it will be given to them from taxpayers like every ■■■■■■■ thing else these scum get
don t leave everythink for last minut.this CPC ready can do last 3 years.i done first 14 hours 2 years ago.some drivers talk -why we can drive till 2014 ,may be some changes.i ready done all .think advance
Only got 1 module towards cpc at the mo but being taken on permanently jan 6th and cpc is free when im taken on.as agency staff I put my wages thro an umbrella company so dont pay tax last week did 48 hours paid £25 umbrella fee and £21 NI and took home £489.
Jeff
mickyblue:
MO(Topgun):
Whats all this…pay for it yourselfs business…why aint your boss paying for your cpc…all the drivers where I work have all done 35hrs so far and only got one more lesson to do before we qualify for our cpc and we get paid while we are doing it…10hrs pay when we sit in the classroom…and whats this "we should all move up to £30.000 a year for having a cpc…I earnt £31.279 last year plus £12.000 tax free allowances… some of you lads need to have a word with your bosses in the coming weeksYou do half brag every time you come on here. I have a CPC card with 21 hours on it and still have over 4 years to finish it off. Now that’s my bragging done
He brags but it’s clearly ■■■■■■■■.
In his post, all the drivers where I work have done 35hrs so far and only got 1 more lesson to do…
You only need 35hrs, so what’s this other lesson? MUPPET!! 
waynedl:
mickyblue:
MO(Topgun):
Whats all this…pay for it yourselfs business…why aint your boss paying for your cpc…all the drivers where I work have all done 35hrs so far and only got one more lesson to do before we qualify for our cpc and we get paid while we are doing it…10hrs pay when we sit in the classroom…and whats this "we should all move up to £30.000 a year for having a cpc…I earnt £31.279 last year plus £12.000 tax free allowances… some of you lads need to have a word with your bosses in the coming weeksYou do half brag every time you come on here. I have a CPC card with 21 hours on it and still have over 4 years to finish it off. Now that’s my bragging done
He brags but it’s clearly [zb].
In his post, all the drivers where I work have done 35hrs so far and only got 1 more lesson to do…
You only need 35hrs, so what’s this other lesson? MUPPET!!
Learning to count I’m betting 
I’ve already got my dCPC, and was able to show this when I got my latest job. However, there are frequent reminders up from the bosses that CPC courses are being run and it is up to the driver to make sure their quals are up to date. I don’t see an issue with it.
There are plenty of opportunities to get these quals, and some of them are more relevant than others. But I doubt I’d get a pay rise out of it. That’s just wishful thinking.
At least I’ve got a job 
The PSV one has already expired. Are the rates going through the roof = No
Is there a shortage of PSV drivers = No
Will HGV drivers rates ever go up = No
Are there a shortage of HGV Drivers = No
In fact there are more drivers now than ever and the Ex forces people are being trained 5000 that were demobbed a few months ago and there is more in the pipeline
MO(Topgun):
Whats all this…pay for it yourselfs business…why aint your boss paying for your cpc…all the drivers where I work have all done 35hrs so far and only got one more lesson to do before we qualify for our cpc and we get paid while we are doing it…10hrs pay when we sit in the classroom…and whats this "we should all move up to £30.000 a year for having a cpc…I earnt £31.279 last year plus £12.000 tax free allowances… some of you lads need to have a word with your bosses in the coming weeks
read the thread title. I don’t have a boss to pay for things but i also don’t have a boss to answer to either. Swings and roundabouts!
Winseer wrote:
Remember folks: Supply and demand is a funny thing. If Crap ever became Money, our arses would start to heal up.
The big winners in such a new economy would be those taking daily laxatives. … Or, the RDC waiting room set perhaps.
“In the land of crap, the one with the brown eye is king.”
True legend mate I’ll be borrowing that!
alder:
The PSV one has already expired. Are the rates going through the roof = NoIs there a shortage of PSV drivers = No
Will HGV drivers rates ever go up = No
Are there a shortage of HGV Drivers = No
In fact there are more drivers now than ever and the Ex forces people are being trained 5000 that were demobbed a few months ago and there is more in the pipeline
Well said…