Definately not.
Hauliers like this give a bad name to the rest of the industry therefore we should stamp them out of the industry.
People like the Olivers are putting decent road hauliers who have never fiddled tacos and have always stuck to the book, out of business.
Why should hauliers like this be put out of business just because of hauliers like the Martin Oliver family have been given a second chance?
Kindest regards
CG
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Definately not.
Hauliers like this give a bad name to the rest of the industry therefore we should stamp them out of the industry.
People like the Olivers are putting decent road hauliers who have never fiddled tacos and have always stuck to the book, out of business.Why should hauliers like this be put out of business just because of hauliers like the Martin Oliver family have been given a second chance?
Kindest regards
CG
This is 8 years old 
Olivers is still going with their shiny shiny wheels, they do a bit of subby work for us
merc0447:
■■■■■■■■ gill:
Definately not.
Hauliers like this give a bad name to the rest of the industry therefore we should stamp them out of the industry.
People like the Olivers are putting decent road hauliers who have never fiddled tacos and have always stuck to the book, out of business.Why should hauliers like this be put out of business just because of hauliers like the Martin Oliver family have been given a second chance?
Kindest regards
CGThis is 8 years old
Olivers is still going with their shiny shiny wheels, they do a bit of subby work for us
different olivers
Davyboy:
merc0447:
■■■■■■■■ gill:
Definately not.
Hauliers like this give a bad name to the rest of the industry therefore we should stamp them out of the industry.
People like the Olivers are putting decent road hauliers who have never fiddled tacos and have always stuck to the book, out of business.Why should hauliers like this be put out of business just because of hauliers like the Martin Oliver family have been given a second chance?
Kindest regards
CGThis is 8 years old
Olivers is still going with their shiny shiny wheels, they do a bit of subby work for us
different olivers
Probably thinking of the Olivers from Kelso.
Davyboy:
merc0447:
■■■■■■■■ gill:
Definately not.
Hauliers like this give a bad name to the rest of the industry therefore we should stamp them out of the industry.
People like the Olivers are putting decent road hauliers who have never fiddled tacos and have always stuck to the book, out of business.Why should hauliers like this be put out of business just because of hauliers like the Martin Oliver family have been given a second chance?
Kindest regards
CGThis is 8 years old
Olivers is still going with their shiny shiny wheels, they do a bit of subby work for us
different olivers
Defo a different Olivers as Martin Oliver went to jail with several of his drivers 8 years ago
If you had read any of these forums you would have know as your mate Eddie Stobards Fan keeps saying
noticed a couple of weeks ago that this company will be losing there operators licence later this year.and i’v just read that the wife of the owner is starting a new company up,the name will be revilo. 
yes i think it will put the 114 drivers minds at rest knowing that there jobs are safe,but will it improve the companies way of working 
will her family have a say in how the company is run
I assume you mean Martin Oliver Transport. If that’s the case then no, they shouldn’t be allowed to recommence trading under a new name.
Obviously under the old name,they’ve had problems,which surely are going to be the same under the new name.
Another phoenix company then.
Ken.
will her family have a say in how the company is run
more then likley,they will be there in some sort of capacity drifting in and out of the back ground making decisions even though they will have job titles like toilet cleaner and gofer.
you will find that at every check point the trucks will be number one target for a pull by vosa and tachos and trucks gone over with a fine tooth comb.
jon
114 class 1 drivers won’t struggle to find work,what was the background to this case?
absolutely atrocious tracho offences, tartan!!! am sure I read 7 drivers were jailed!! or lost their licences…one or the other
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:21 pm Post subject: NEWS: TC ruling leaves 114 out of work at haulage firm
More than 100 people will be out of work in the South Tyne following a shock ruling by the Traffic Commissioners.
Well-known Bardon Mill haulage company William Martin Oliver and Partners is being forced off the road following a long-running investigation by the Vehicle Inspectorate.
William Oliver, his wife Marion, and their son Stuart are to have their transport operator’s licences revoked after 35 of the firm’s drivers were prosecuted for breaches of tough driving laws.
All three Olivers themselves appeared at Newcastle Crown Court on conspiracy charges arising from the prosecution of their drivers.
The jury failed to reach a verdict and a retrial, to take place in January, was ordered last week.
It had been assumed the retrial would delay any action by the Commissioners, but Commissioner Beverley Bell decided to issue her findings anyway.
She was satisfied that evidence presented at the Crown Court hearing was now in the public domain, so the retrial could not be prejudiced.
Her ruling means Olivers’ business will cease to exist when the revocation orders become effective on October 31.
That means the end of the road for the company’s 114 drivers and other staff.
There will also be a knock-on effect for the firm’s suppliers, who will be badly hit by the loss of Olivers’ business.
It’s a body blow for the South Tyne area, which has suffered more than its share of job losses in recent years.
The firm’s demise follows the closure of the Haltwhistle Akzo Nobel paint factory, the Blenkinsopp pit at Greenhead and the closure of Barwick Brothers at Gilsland.
The decision was taken after the Traffic Commissioner judged that the driving force at William Martin Oliver and Partners haulage was making money rather than complying with the law.
The investigation started in 1999, and resulted in 70 drivers being investigated and 35 being prosecuted for flouting European regulations governing working hours.
The three partners in the haulage firm hold licences in the North East and North West of England, and in Scotland.
Mrs Bell revoked the English licences indefinitely, and recommended that the Scottish licence also be revoked.
On top of this, William Oliver and Stuart Oliver have also been barred from holding licences as transport managers.
The licences will be revoked at midnight on October 31.
In her 121-page verdict, the commissioner said the partners were too concerned with keeping the wheels of the vehicles turning rather than ensuring drivers complied with the law.
She was satisfied all three partners had obstructed the investigation, had failed to co-operate in the police interviews and had sought to evade responsibility.
She was satisfied the firm was prepared to put commercial gain above compliance with the drivers’ hours and tachograph regulations.
She was most damning about the role of Stuart Oliver, whom she said had displayed a culture of falsification, excessive driving hours, insufficient rest periods, and false time sheets which had resulted in drivers thinking they could escape detection with all that entailed.
She felt she would fail in her duty as a traffic commissioner if she did not take him out of the industry.
Mrs Bell felt William Oliver had taken income from the business but had not taken on the mantle of responsibility that ran parallel with that.
She was also satisfied Marion Oliver knew the exact details of the amounts of wages paid to drivers and had turned a blind eye to what was happening when she felt it was appropriate to do so.
The Olivers declined to comment on the Traffic Commissioner’s verdict or remarks.
Published on Friday, July 16th 2004
source; The Hexham Courant
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HERE YOU GO TARTAN HAVE A READ AND YOU’LL UNDERSTAND IT MORE 
funnily enough i had to drive through alston yesterday to get to wolsingham and was thinking about what i’ve read about this firm and it’s modus operandi and NO they shouldn’t be allowed to ever hold a licence again OR the 3 directors control vehicles held on anyone else’s licence
i can think of one recent-ish case where an obviously bent operator got off on technicalities and then cried the badly-done-to victim - that made me mad as hell and we cannot afford for any more of these people to walk away scot free for their gross misdemeanours
usual disclaimer - no, i’ve been far from an angel myself in the past but realise that the industry has changed and has to get it’s house in order
I read this story in one of the trucking mags where it detailed the drivers offences rather more than the Operators actions… the drivers don’t deserve to hold their licences if the offences quoted are correct!!
I am all for a ‘tweaking’ of the laws every now and then but to commit offences day after day after day is unforgivable!!! especially breaking the driving and rest laws
I voted no.
I think categorically no because of 35 drivers & the way the company was run by a cowboy family 114 people are now out of a job.
As far as I’m concerned the 35 arse wipes got what they deserved & hopefully the directors will after the re-trial.
What hope have we got of being seen as a proffession (?) when high profile firms like this just crap on the rules.
If you cant make money running legally then you are no good at your job and should apply for a job stacking shelves so it doesn’t tax your tiny brain too much.
If I can make money legally then so can you
As for the drivers they were just mugs because where has it got them running bent for the guvenor - on the dole with a bad reputation unfortunately the drivers who weren’t running bent have been tarred with the same brush its them I feel sorry for
TC:
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