Okay may be opening a can of worms hear but advice is needed

army2483:
I would take the royal logistics option still get the licence a bit of experiance and money will be better

thats what my fathers been trying to get me to do… cause either way i be stuck in the same job… and as my father says after the 4 years with the army if i dont like it i can come out with my hgv plus more depends what i do… and if i like it then i can stay on and possible come out with a tidy pention… but is it true that some people dont like employing ex forces drivers due to the apparent fact they cant really drive unless they are carrying tanks in convoy down the motoway… (please no one bite my head of for saying this im only quoteing what a friend of mine once said

shuttlespanker:

Truckulent:

terriers:
okay as i say in the title i might be opening a can of worms hear but i been reading a few job sites and i seen that storbarts are advatiseing apprenterships where they will pay for you class 2 and class 1 licances… now this would suit me fine as not only would i not have to pay out right for a very expensive test but i would have a job at the end of it… as a lot of younge drivers i know have paid out the money for their hgv and struggle to get firms to take them on due to their lack of experiance… know i now alot of people have a gripe with storbarts but would it be a wise move to have a closer look into this, or take the risk of paying for the tests my self and now haveing a garenteed job at the end of it.?

Hmmm…well… it all depends on what commitment they expect from you afterwards and, crucially, what actual job and wage you would be on.

From what I’ve heard about the apprenticeship schemes I would be wary. Stobbies don’t pay experienced drivers very well so I would expect them to pay in bags of rice to newbies…

Worth looking into though. If you’re happy with the conditions, might be worth it.

PS…I’d get the company’s name correct before applying mate… :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Stobarts

the basic wage is poor, but when you add up all the bonuses that they pay, it works out better than most companies

Truckulent:

dessy:
I know nothing about the apprentice scheme! Stobart are good! New or nearly new trailers/units uniform money always in the bank etc.
Planners are the real problem there! They are in the majority numbties! One or two who are the mutts nuts but mostly idiots and try talking to you (over the phone anyway) like their manager talks to them! If they pay for all your training including Dcpc then you could do worse and fund it all yourself! Trampers are not wanted so I’m led to believe! The train is the future! :unamused:

Despite the haters on here! Working at Stobart will get you into most companies as they are very highly regarded for their training these days! Will look good on your CV! :wink:

Hmmm. It will also suggest you’re happy to work long hours for poor-ish money…each to and all that.

Ask yourself why Stobart’s are doing the apprentice scheme. There are plenty of drivers looking for work so why do they need to? It’s certainly not for the good of the apprentices. The reality is they are looking for cheap labour, they can then treat you like [zb] and you won’t be able to leave because of the contract. They will dangle the carrott of paying for your tests and training (to them, nothing much), and then pin you down for umpteen years flogging the guts out of you.

Ultimately you will pay for your test and more one way or the other. Stobart’s are doing it for their benefit not yours.

On balance I would steer clear…they’ll have you by the balls for the next few years and you’ll be run ragged mate.

often, companies do the apprenticeship scheme so that they can teach the new employee their way of working and procedures, an older, more experienced driver would sometimes find it harder to adapt to new ways of doing things

And obviously do those things for less pay. Older more experienced drivers are also harder to con and dangle carrots for.

obviously, from reading your posts regarding Stobarts, you have some form of personal gripe with the company

None at all. i merely answered the OP’s questions asking what people think. That’s what I think!

they may not be the best company to work for, but, i’ll bet you a years wage, that they are by far not the worst either

I agree!

to the OP, if you can get on the apprenticeship scheme through Stobarts, it is worth doing, i’m not sure what the job situation is like in your area, but, if you get on, you will receive your full training, your DCPC, full uniform, new(ish) vehicles that are replaced regularly

Have you personal experience of it then? You go to work to earn a living, not to get excited about the uniform. It’s important the OP fully understands what he is getting into. Stobarts are not the worst but they aren’t the best either and he needs to be aware that signing up is a major commitment - if you sign you’re stuck with it, unless you can pay your way out of it…which he can’t or he’d be paying for his licence!

the only down side is, you can’t really personalise your truck whilst on for them

That’s a plus point not a negative!!! :laughing:

lol yup had a few problems when i came out as the army dont use tachos and they dont class military driving as commercial driving but benefits of royal logistics you can get your motor bike psv and class 1 licence dont see stobarts offering all that for you and you dont have to pay the forces back

dew:

Sam Millar:
22 is too old for the Stobart apprenticeship I think, you have to be 18 or 19 I think… I have a few mates who were in it and they featured in the Stobart episode and all have left now because they were sick of it.

No way that some of the lads on the tv episode were 18/19 - some looked old enough to be my dad!

You must be a very young boy then! These are the lot that were featured on the episode.

army2483:
lol yup had a few problems when i came out as the army dont use tachos and they dont class military driving as commercial driving but benefits of royal logistics you can get your motor bike psv and class 1 licence dont see stobarts offering all that for you and you dont have to pay the forces back

i was speaking to a driver that drove for the glass company i was with and he was royal air core and he got more licances than he knew what to do with… but hes stuck driving a 18 ton wagon deliver glass windows… for 7.50 a hour… cause he went to a fuel firm and they turned him down… but hey he seems happy 1 week of nights out in every 6 haha…

Sam Millar:

dew:

Sam Millar:
22 is too old for the Stobart apprenticeship I think, you have to be 18 or 19 I think… I have a few mates who were in it and they featured in the Stobart episode and all have left now because they were sick of it.

No way that some of the lads on the tv episode were 18/19 - some looked old enough to be my dad!

You must be a very young boy then! These are the lot that were featured on the episode.

hahahaha cant be setting a good example letting them ware jeans… not part of the uniform haha… :laughing:

Sam Millar:

dew:

Sam Millar:
22 is too old for the Stobart apprenticeship I think, you have to be 18 or 19 I think… I have a few mates who were in it and they featured in the Stobart episode and all have left now because they were sick of it.

No way that some of the lads on the tv episode were 18/19 - some looked old enough to be my dad!

You must be a very young boy then! These are the lot that were featured on the episode.

The guy it kept showing when it came out (I watched it at the time) was way older than 19 - didn’t he keep talking about a kid or something?

The guy it kept showing when it came out (I watched it at the time) was way older than 19 - didn’t he keep talking about a kid or something?

know that you mentioned it seems to ring a bell :laughing:

I’m trying to remember (I’ve slept since then) :laughing:

dew:
I’m trying to remember (I’ve slept since then) :laughing:

hahahahahaha… so have alot of us lolol…

There was a guy on there that looked late 20s who had a kid. Don’t think he made it through. But if he was outside age bracket he wouldn’t have been at the interviews would he?

dar1976:
There was a guy on there that looked late 20s who had a kid. Don’t think he made it through. But if he was outside age bracket he wouldn’t have been at the interviews would he?

i wouldnt have thought so noo… :unamused: i remember there being one on there who faild his test the first time but passed on the second

terriers:

dar1976:
There was a guy on there that looked late 20s who had a kid. Don’t think he made it through. But if he was outside age bracket he wouldn’t have been at the interviews would he?

i wouldnt have thought so noo… :unamused: i remember there being one on there who faild his test the first time but passed on the second

That was the long haired Scouser wasn’t it?

I think Dar’s on about the same guy as me. He passed the simulator and that and then wasn’t taken on

EDIT: added the word “about” as it changed the sentence meaning quite considerably!

dew:

terriers:

dar1976:
There was a guy on there that looked late 20s who had a kid. Don’t think he made it through. But if he was outside age bracket he wouldn’t have been at the interviews would he?

i wouldnt have thought so noo… :unamused: i remember there being one on there who faild his test the first time but passed on the second

That was the long haired Scouser wasn’t it?

I think Dar’s on the same guy as me. He passed the simulator and that and then wasn’t taken on

ahhh think it might be time to look on the channel 5 website and check it will only bug me lmao

dew:

terriers:

dar1976:
There was a guy on there that looked late 20s who had a kid. Don’t think he made it through. But if he was outside age bracket he wouldn’t have been at the interviews would he?

i wouldnt have thought so noo… :unamused: i remember there being one on there who faild his test the first time but passed on the second

That was the long haired Scouser wasn’t it?

I think Dar’s on about the same guy as me. He passed the simulator and that and then wasn’t taken on

EDIT: added the word “about” as it changed the sentence meaning quite considerably!

Yer that’s the guy. And thanks for adding the edit :wink:

dar1976:

dew:

terriers:

dar1976:
There was a guy on there that looked late 20s who had a kid. Don’t think he made it through. But if he was outside age bracket he wouldn’t have been at the interviews would he?

i wouldnt have thought so noo… :unamused: i remember there being one on there who faild his test the first time but passed on the second

That was the long haired Scouser wasn’t it?

I think Dar’s on about the same guy as me. He passed the simulator and that and then wasn’t taken on

EDIT: added the word “about” as it changed the sentence meaning quite considerably!

Yer that’s the guy. And thanks for adding the edit :wink:

I re-read it afterwards and thought “oh horlicks”, I know how dirty minded some of these lot are

And that guys welsh, we can’t be too careful!

hahah i didnt even notice untill you said then lmao… as my signiture says “squeal like a hog boy”

ahh i know who you’re at now, yeah you’re right. I think there is an age limit on it but can’t be what I said it was.

terriers:

army2483:
I would take the royal logistics option still get the licence a bit of experiance and money will be better

thats what my fathers been trying to get me to do… cause either way i be stuck in the same job… and as my father says after the 4 years with the army if i dont like it i can come out with my hgv plus more depends what i do… and if i like it then i can stay on and possible come out with a tidy pention… but is it true that some people dont like employing ex forces drivers due to the apparent fact they cant really drive unless they are carrying tanks in convoy down the motoway… (please no one bite my head of for saying this im only quoteing what a friend of mine once said

yep I would if could take the army although you may have probs when you come out but not impossible although it is hard for anyoe to get a start with anything atm

This will change in time just have to wait

the apprenticeship is very good at Stobarts, you don’t just learn how to drive a truck you learn all about the various jobs involved, I.e. loadind and restraining. office staff roles. You do a bit of everything.
Not sure on the wages, doubt it will be much, but the training is top notch.
If all you want is a licence, join the RLC reserves (TA) get ya licences for nowt and your not tied into a contract. You never know, you might enjoy it. I did :wink: