bills.parliament.uk/bills/2794
There is currently a bill for number plate endorsable offences being looked at rather than just being a £100 fine.
Just a heads up for those that want to use a non conforming numberplate. It could well be an endorsable offence in the future.
Queue the “police have nothing better to do etc”
At the end of the day if it becomes law is it worth risking your licence and job over a numberplate?
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Rob you can skip this thread as we all know your feelings on things like this. Trigger warning for you sir.
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Hi presumably this is aimed at the seemingly increacing number of cars running without a front plate which seems to be a trend right now or motorbikes with small numberplates
but as always it will drag in others unintentionally and the lack of common sence and discretion give way to kpi’s and targets
iv seen a few plates with what looks like just a string of numbers in a small font recently 123123123
Saw a jag other day on M5 couldn’t even read his number plate. Reg plate Was a silver kind of colour and really shinny with huge 3 d effect letters.
Looked like been done on purpose to evade speed camera. Even though he wasn’t speeding.
always had a small number plate on my Harley…as do most Custom bikes. i suppose using a piece of cardboard or chalk for a semi trailer number plate is out the window now 
carryfast-yeti:
always had a small number plate on my Harley…as do most Custom bikes. i suppose using a piece of cardboard or chalk for a semi trailer number plate is out the window now
The newer style…
Of number plate holder is very good at what it does. If you fix it correctly to start with, it’ll be there when you arrive. The old style number plate was a much bigger problem when we used bungee straps and old inner tube to hold things on.
On the two occasions I was offered cardboard number plates, I refused point blank to leave the yard. The first load had to be trans-shipped and the second one led to an almighty row involving me having to quote number plate law (which I Googled).
I had a look at the bill and I assume section 59 refers to spacing and style of number plate.
Just another way to take money out of your pocket innit.
Think this bill may a lot to do with 4D number plates which
seem traffic cameras cannot read them properly.
4D? What’s that?
the maoster:
4D? What’s that?
No idea but all my family are black taxi drivers and they all have them
it saving them a fortune at Heathrow and Gatwick and dartford tunnel.
Right. I’d never even heard of them before your mention tbh l
simcor:
https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/2794There is currently a bill for number plate endorsable offences being looked at rather than just being a £100 fine.
Just a heads up for those that want to use a non conforming numberplate. It could well be an endorsable offence in the future.
Queue the “police have nothing better to do etc”
At the end of the day if it becomes law is it worth risking your licence and job over a numberplate?
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The bill failed to get though parliament in 2020. So nothing to sweat about 
fingermissing:
No idea but all my family are black taxi drivers and they all have them
it saving them a fortune at Heathrow and Gatwick and dartford tunnel.
Did you mean ‘black cab drivers’? 
Suddenly those plates you spent thousands on - are utterly worthless…
The government gets to pick more of our pockets, determined to cause the deepest recession for a century…
Where’s the outrage, the protests at that■■
Winseer:
Suddenly those plates you spent thousands on - are utterly worthless…The government gets to pick more of our pockets, determined to cause the deepest recession for a century…
Where’s the outrage, the protests at that■■
The outrage is from those who’ve got addicted to cheap credit, live beyond their means buying everything on tick. For those of us a bit longer in the tooth the mortgage interest rates are now back to where they were most of our lives. In fact where the Bank of England base rate currently is, 5%, is bang in the middle of the average range it’s been for the last 200 years. Until the 1970s it had typically been between 4-6%. It went up in the late 70s to the early 90s before dropping back down to within that range where it was with nobody complaining until after the 2008 crash when the BoE dropped it to record lows to stimulate the economy. Where it has been the last 15 years is the anomaly, not where it currently is.
Beau Nydel:
fingermissing:
No idea but all my family are black taxi drivers and they all have them
it saving them a fortune at Heathrow and Gatwick and dartford tunnel.Did you mean ‘black cab drivers’?
Yes the drivers are white from my family the taxis are called black taxis.
Conor:
Winseer:
Suddenly those plates you spent thousands on - are utterly worthless…The government gets to pick more of our pockets, determined to cause the deepest recession for a century…
Where’s the outrage, the protests at that■■
The outrage is from those who’ve got addicted to cheap credit, live beyond their means buying everything on tick. For those of us a bit longer in the tooth the mortgage interest rates are now back to where they were most of our lives. In fact where the Bank of England base rate currently is, 5%, is bang in the middle of the average range it’s been for the last 200 years. Until the 1970s it had typically been between 4-6%. It went up in the late 70s to the early 90s before dropping back down to within that range where it was with nobody complaining until after the 2008 crash when the BoE dropped it to record lows to stimulate the economy. Where it has been the last 15 years is the anomaly, not where it currently is.
If it were about “debt”, then surely we’d see signs in the economy of massive numbers of people going bankrupt, less people buying stuff in shops with credit they now cannot get IN a state of bankruptcy, and all-in-all - less economic activity BASED on debt, such as “new care sales on 0% finance” etc…
That’s NOT what we see though - is it?
Just the same old people moaning that we should re-joing the EU to get our former “Prosperity” back… WTF? Prosperity that left behind enough people to vote to Leave, if you want to connect Brexit with this…
Isn’t the real problem here - that Labour continue to be un-electable after 13 years of Tory mis-rule?
I’m sick to death of being forced to vote for the “least worse” because the party that actually BRINGS change - isn’t on our ballot papers, EVER - it seems…
What change did the Green MP and the many SNP MPs bring in the end??
Nothing - because they were unable to bring the Tories to account, with a serious alternative to wasting UKplc’s money on daft schemes that benefit all-too-few actually living and working here, including immigrants both legal and illegal, working or not too…
Eventually the population of such people will be the ones to say ENOUGH in their respective sub-mediterranean languages, and do something about it.
No party currently in Westminster - has the answers.
The decent thing for party backbenchers to do THIS far ahead of the next election - is to remove their own leadership completely, and start again from grass-roots support and upwards.
And those who ‘forget’ their trailer plate or accidentally’ put it on upside down…
With a blob of grease on a digit of the front and rear number plate, it’s free parking courtesy of the motorway services.
I always see motorbikes and scooters with their number plate stuck upwards at an angle so it’s unreadable from behind.
Or tiny little number plates the size of a postage stamp.
Henry Stephens:
With a blob of grease on a digit of the front and rear number plate, it’s free parking courtesy of the motorway services.
I’m not sure free parking is worth the ballache of a PG9, see Categorisation of Defects, page 14
A motor vehicle registration plate broken/
incomplete/dirty/ deteriorated/faded/obscured or
with any feature that has the effect of changing the
appearance or legibility of any of the characters, so
that the true identity of the vehicle is less easily
established (see notes 3 and 4)
Inscription missing, illegible or likely to be
misread.
D (D for Delayed PG9)