In my previous posts I came up with a list of possible scenarios, I wasn’t there either so I don’t know what happened, I was trying to point out that it could easily have had an explanation that didn’t make it 100% the fault of the driver.
To me it looks like he’s come belting round the bend & gravity has introduced itself & the result is plain to see, but you lot had already said that so I thought I’d put the other side of things across, the bloke is only human & we all make mistakes, they’re not all on that scale thankfully, although saying that you should see my ex wife!
There are too many posts on these forums arguing that the curtains are load bearing
I hear what you’re saying wheelnut, however, as can clearly be seen in pic 3 these are the relatively new “flexsys” curtains which have inbuilt straps and are (as far as i’m aware) designed to restrain… to a degree.
Though just what that degree is i don’t know & neither do flexsys looking at their website!
There is a new EU directive that sets the standards for trailers, however there is also a new directive for things like straps, curtain buckles and tensioners.
This new norm, EN 12642XL, has forced every trailer builder and parts manufacturer to develop new and better solutions to create an even stronger and safer trailer.
Not gonna criticize the driver as I wasnt there and dont know the whole story, glad no-one got hurt…BUT… it`s blindingly obvious from picture 4 that plastic moulded pallets have been stacked on top of plastic goods/sheets/pads …gonna slide like a [zb] first time you corner or brake or ■■■■…
well thats it then, as usual the guy at the front of the wagon gets the blame,
i have just packed in working at @@@@@@@@, where all the trailers are loaded by shunters, they dont have the time to strap them, you are expected to
climb on top of the load, drag your straps out open up the curtains, and strap what needs it, at 0400 on a rainy windy morning, yeh o.k.
its far easier done when its loading even if the straps are just left hanging,
cos as we all know, when it goes wrong who gets the blame■■?.
well its never the shunter, or the forky is it.
bad luck to the driver, hope it goes ok for him, he might have the same luck as the van driver.
WHAT is the law in the UK,
over here in Germany the
driver and the loader are
both responsible for the
safe and securement of
the load, IN fact now adays
the majority of firms have a laid down
method of load restraint, I have been loading
this week 24 pallets of HAZ and this has to
be loaded exactly as laid down by the
firms safety officer and no deviations are allowed,
IF THAT IS CORRECT then it should be changed and a law brought in,which states that not only the driver is responsible for the load restraint ,in addition the loader who places the goods on the vehicle is also to be held responsible,as to the safe and secure way the load is restrained, This goes for all types of load be it a tilt curtainsider ,roadbarrel silo etc, Also the firms should take the time and trouble and invest in teaching their drivers how to safely secure loads ,IN this day and age the drivers mate is no more and so the new driver has a even harder task in front of him,her ,as not many firms if any take the time and trouble to teach their drivers about the various aspects of the job,
We used to load at a place in Newport and we could very often be overloaded by as much as seven tonnes, The steel was sometimes banded too tight or too slack. Therefore they lost several loads. Eventually the steel company was prosecuted. It’s a great place to load at now. No overloading, The crane operator asks you how you would like the load placing on the trailer. After loading photos are taken of the load when it is secured. It covers the drivers arse as well as there own.
yungnad:
i have just packed in working at @@@@@@@@, where all the trailers are loaded by shunters, they dont have the time to strap them, you are expected to
climb on top of the load, drag your straps out open up the curtains, and strap what needs it, at 0400 on a rainy windy morning, yeh o.k.
its far easier done when its loading even if the straps are just left hanging,
Totally agree. We often load at a place in West ■■■■■■■ that fits the above description. Sometimes loaded to within inches of the roof, yet you are expected to get straps over it!
All our trailers are Euroliners so don’t have roof straps, just cargo winches located under the trailer sides.
The annoying thing is, its loaded in “Cut out” bays. i.e. where the trailer is reversed into a gap cut out in the warehouse floor so the trailer bed is level with the warehouse floor. Soooooo easy to strap it there.
There is a sheeting shed with lighting and one pair of rickety old steps that can be used. You have to keep wheeling the steps from 1 side of the trailer to the other.To tow it around the long 1 way system into there and then strap it all properly on your own, can easily take well over an hour.
It could be done with 2 guys in 10 minutes in the warehouse.
well now you know why i wanted out, you are expected to do it as you say, but still get to the tip on time, but not allowed to start early to strap up, reason for this is your wagon probably wont be back of night shift, cos if you tramp mon till fri, a agency driver or casual will take it out at weekends, its all total blx, all aimed at squeezing the last morsel, cos they cut the job to the bone.
pity cos i like driving i like tramping, but i dont like being chased that much, that your head is up your a@@@,
thats when accidents happen, i,e, trailers dropped on their knees, pins missed,
Not gonna criticize the driver as I wasn
first time you corner or brake or ■■■■… 
well thats it then, as usual the guy at the front of the wagon gets the blame,