biggusdickusgb:
i normally agree about not jumping the gun,
but unless the picture lies, he’s just left the roundabout.
if that assumption is correct, it looks open and shut case of too much speed coming off the roundabout
for once i’m with rob on this one
No rounabout on this road wagon was coming up to a T junction but its not looking to good for the driver,
ill let you know the outcome once its all been sorted and we have all the facts
sorry it looked like a roundabout behind him, has he just turned left from the junction behind him?
nianiamh,i see youve left out the pic of u stretchin the life out o that stripy t shirt?..cmon,dont b shy,my chubby chum! …but hey,now youve gotta strap ALL yr loads,the pounds should fall off!
biggusdickusgb:
i normally agree about not jumping the gun,
but unless the picture lies, he’s just left the roundabout.
if that assumption is correct, it looks open and shut case of too much speed coming off the roundabout
for once i’m with rob on this one
Exactly my thinking Steve, although I think it was a left turn at a T-junction (as mentioned in your following post) rather than a r/b. I’d be happy to wage my house on that’s what’s happened - driving like a ■■■■ and the trailer’s said “tarra”. Too many of them about and they deserve to be banned for life the lot of them.
There’s just no excuse whatsoever for emptying the contents of a 40 footer sideways onto a road, period.
Yes the driver should’ve strapped the load but then the whole thing could’ve been lying on its side, anyway I’m sure I’m not the only one who has not strapped a load in a curtainsider that I wouldn’t dream of leaving loose on a flat.
Even the bloke on the same firm who took the pictures doesn’t know the full story, but he may have clipped the kerb with the trailer, he may have swerved to avoid a kid running in the road, he may have been cut up by someone causing him to get a wobble on, of course he may also have been driving too fast, BUT only one person knows that & he ain’t posted yet!
As usual Judge, Jury & Executioner are out on this one, funny but the ones with the most to say are the ones who consistently prove to be talking out of their jacksies
Wasn’t me!!!
I can’t work out how that has gone over on that stretch. I think he must have been doing gas mark 6 round the last roundabout and the load moved. That’s one trailer I won’t be pulling this week! Also that unit looks like a hire motor, we have them occasionally at our depot.
newmercman:
Yes the driver should’ve strapped the load but then the whole thing could’ve been lying on its side, anyway I’m sure I’m not the only one who has not strapped a load in a curtainsider that I wouldn’t dream of leaving loose on a flat.
Even the bloke on the same firm who took the pictures doesn’t know the full story, but he may have clipped the kerb with the trailer, he may have swerved to avoid a kid running in the road, he may have been cut up by someone causing him to get a wobble on, of course he may also have been driving too fast, BUT only one person knows that & he ain’t posted yet!
As usual Judge, Jury & Executioner are out on this one, funny but the ones with the most to say are the ones who consistently prove to be talking out of their jacksies
i’m with you on the first bit, even took a risk on a flat a couple of times myself.
you fall down a bit in your second paragraph though
1 he may have clipped the kerb
= bad driving, and it would’ve had to have been at speed and a very high kerb to tip a trailer
2 he may have swerved to avoid a kid running in the road unlikely, although i suppose there could’ve been a kid, but he’s just turned a corner so wouldn’t have been going that fast so surely that would’ve moved the load to the headboard when he braked sharp
3 he may have been cut up by someone causing him to get a wobble on
how do you work that one out, he’s just turned a corner.
BUT only one person knows that & he ain’t posted yet!
you almost got that right, as far as i can see theres two vehicles involved.
my jacksie has an opinion on this though,
the driver of the artic takes the turn too fast and on the wrong side of the road, see’s the van is in his way and swings even more violently to the left to avoid the said van,
the load inside the trailer, already shifted because of turning at speed/clipping kerb/avoiding child, then shifts further because of the sudden extra swing to the left causing the load to shift violently to the right.
over goes the trailer.
i think my jacksie talks more sense than your jacksie imho
Koop:
What an idiot!!! He could’ve killed someone, sack him and tear his licence up, he clearly has no idea!
so youve never clipped a kerb?never in hindsight gone a little too quick?or performed some manouvre on the road that wasnt strictly to test standard?
unfortunately for this driver he may have performed one of the above,with a unforgiving load,plastic packaging slides like #### off a shovel,but as nianiamh has stated…the company has just purchased a ton o straps!so obviously their h+s dept were happy with how loads were strapped?fortunately for the van driver,it was his lucky day.unfortunately for hgv driver,it may be his last with that or any other co?
Wel well what a suprise another dhl muppett bites the dust. No doubt in a raging hurry to do the job and get back. Shame it did’nt turn out like that. He’s lucky he has’nt got a death or bad injury on his concience.
No one was there except the van driver and the DHL driver so the story so far goes thus.
Fact.
The 13.6 metre curtainsider was loaded with plastic pallets which we were told contained plastic layer pads, These pads are banded onto the plastic pallets.
The trailer is a single deck which will carry 26 pallets on the floor. There are many more of these plastic pallets lying on the van, under the trailer and along the road. This would suggest that the pallets were stacked 2 or probably 3 high.
The trailer spewed its contents along the road.
No straps were used to secure the stacked plastic pallets. either over or through them.
It is not possible to see whether there is a cross strap across the back near the doors although that would be little use if a pack had slid from the centre and would only cause the strap to loosen.
There are too many posts on these forums arguing that the curtains are load bearing and these trailers are designed to carry loads like this unsecured.
I havent suggested this driver was driving too fast as the tacho will show that.
I havent suggested that the driver mounted the kerb, maybe we wont know that, either but if this had been a fatality the accident investigators would know that soon enough.
The van driver should count his blessings and if anyone wants to have a go and call me names or throw things on an internet forum for trying to point out the dangers of carrying unsecured loads behind a piece of Poly Vinyl Chloride. Im over here.
I would prefer that than having to read about a family being wiped out by a overturned vehicle when the load fell off.
I also accept Newmercman saying that if he had strapped the load the whole vehicle could be laying on its side.
It did and it is, but the likelyhood of that happening is a whole lot less if the load couldnt slip in the first place.
= bad driving, and it would’ve had to have been at speed and a very high kerb to tip a trailer
absolutely, 15mph would do it.
my jacksie has an opinion on this though,
the driver of the artic takes the turn too fast and on the wrong side of the road, see’s the van is in his way and swings even more violently to the left to avoid the said van,
the load inside the trailer, already shifted because of turning at speed/clipping kerb/avoiding child, then shifts further because of the sudden extra swing to the left causing the load to shift violently to the right.
over goes the trailer.
There are too many posts on these forums arguing that the curtains are load bearing
I hear what you’re saying wheelnut, however, as can clearly be seen in pic 3 these are the relatively new “flexsys” curtains which have inbuilt straps and are (as far as i’m aware) designed to restrain… to a degree.
Though just what that degree is i don’t know & neither do flexsys looking at their website!
…but hey,now youve gotta strap ALL yr loads,the pounds should fall off! 
