bee chris:
Smoggie89:
The daf I’m in at the minute turns its self off after a bit ? Have to keep turning the [zb] back on in the night …Check the inlet and outlet( inside the cab) if they get blocked they shut off to stop overheating,
Cheers mate , not my truck so not that botherd but ill mention it to the driver when he is back see if he knows lol, can’t even set a timer for it to come on pffttt lol
Lusk:
bee chris:
I would run the truck all night if the night heater is not allowed on, I used to work for a firm where my night heater was broken, I asked for it to be fixed and I was told no so I ran the truck all night to keep warm.That is just so wrong in so many ways - I think it is a sad state of affairs if the company can not be bothered to provide the driver with such a basic ‘comfort’. Temporarily forgetting about the driver for one minute, how about the cost associated with running the engine all night not to mention the damage it does to the engine.
so whats happens if you was parked up in the Scottish Highlands near the Cairngorns in a lay by in December and it was say -10 at night. Are you saying that if a company would not fix a problem with the night heater when the driver has told them, probably on many occasions that he should not keep the engine running to keep warm?
If the attitude of the company is like that then they deserve all they get with high fuel costs and shagged engines that could be caused by running the engine all night.
Lusk:
bee chris:
I would run the truck all night if the night heater is not allowed on, I used to work for a firm where my night heater was broken, I asked for it to be fixed and I was told no so I ran the truck all night to keep warm.That is just so wrong in so many ways - I think it is a sad state of affairs if the company can not be bothered to provide the driver with such a basic ‘comfort’. Temporarily forgetting about the driver for one minute, how about the cost associated with running the engine all night not to mention the damage it does to the engine.
In the days before night heaters were in widespread use it was a simple choice of run the engine with the heater on or just live in a an untenable environment.The fact is running the engine has been used for years in the case of nights out with either unheated cabs here and in climates where a night heater alone probably wouldn’t be good enough to provide sufficient heat.While shutting down the engine would leave it unable to be started in such conditions.In none of those cases is engine life affected to unsustainable levels.
I remember overnighting at Livingstone one Jan night,night heater died it was -5 in the cab.Had to use secret auxillary heater,you know that 6 cylinder one under the cab.Had a fridge trailer on and it was warmer in there.
If Turners ever told us to use the night heater less, I’d use it more, and while going along
Mrgee1956:
listen Son a quick chuff wie Pamela done us for a night in the cab.
After you done the bizz did you say …i just want you to stay with me and hold me?! 
HSE Guidelines are-
The temperature in workrooms should provide reasonable comfort without the need for special clothing. Where such a temperature is impractical because of hot or cold processes, all reasonable steps should be taken to achieve a temperature which is as close as possible to comfortable. ‘Workroom’ means a room where people normally work for more than short periods.
The temperature in workrooms should normally be at least 16 degrees Celsius unless much of the work involves severe physical effort in which case the temperature should be at least 13 degrees Celsius. These temperatures may not, however, ensure reasonable comfort, depending on other factors such as air movement and relative humidity.’
A vehicle is your workplace,so the above guidelines should apply.
Shocking I used my night heater to warm the cab and defrost the windows in between clocking in and going for a morning poop.
It broke down once and my company mucked me around about getting it fixed so I poped into the local dealer made an order number up and they fixed it. I got a right bollocking when they got the invoice, and felt really guilty in a warm smug kind of way.
Mention the wording legal action/ solicitor to whoever sent that text.They will not try it again.If the money is that tight then close the doors and go home. A happy driver is a productive driver.This is 2013 not 1713.
bigvern1:
I worked for Montgomery’s at Crick a few years back. The old ■■■■■■ that was the TM took the night heater control panels out. You had to ask him for them if overnighting!
no problem, just use the thirteen litre night heater!
Daytrunker:
Would tell em they got a choice they want the job doing or I’ll be back every night, as said they wouldn’t go without heating at home.
Done 2 nights out Friday and Saturday same last week wouldn’t be without my night heater put it on low when im asleep lovely and snug.Jeff
putting a night heater on low is what causes a flat battery, better to have it high with the window down a little, that way it doesn’t keep stopping and starting.
Wot’s up wiv a sleeping bag. 
Stuff that, my night heater broke down in January this year and it was about -7 with snow everywhere, it was so cold that I didn’t even wake up with the usual morning stiffy.
Dave the Renegade:
HSE Guidelines are-
The temperature in workrooms should provide reasonable comfort without the need for special clothing. Where such a temperature is impractical because of hot or cold processes, all reasonable steps should be taken to achieve a temperature which is as close as possible to comfortable. ‘Workroom’ means a room where people normally work for more than short periods.
The temperature in workrooms should normally be at least 16 degrees Celsius unless much of the work involves severe physical effort in which case the temperature should be at least 13 degrees Celsius. These temperatures may not, however, ensure reasonable comfort, depending on other factors such as air movement and relative humidity.’A vehicle is your workplace,so the above guidelines should apply.
But there’s the rub Dave, “should” not must. Dig deeper, I’m sure I’ve read before there is no law on this, especially in regard to lorry cabs.
I’ve refused to take a unit out before in winter where the night heater didn’t work.
I’ve also slept in -5 without a working n/h switched on. I don’t like the noise. As another poster said, just switch it on 10 mins before getting up.
Thetaff2:
If that was me they would get a reply with the second word being “off”
Would that be:-
“Switch Off? - Sure boss. No problem.” 
Carryfast:
Lusk:
JAKEY:
Told my dad once that the night heater had packed up and went out in to the yard to check we still had about 100 blankets folded in the back and then asked what was wrong with them ?
Yeah but that generation was when men were men…this younger generation are mostly nancies
That was the same in the case of early 20th century housing for the working classes too with casualties caused by pneumonia to match.
All the night outs I did were during the 1980’s with old wagons without night heaters.But even then I just left the engine idling with the heater on most of the time the only downside being the exhaust fumes used to get dragged in by the fan.There’s nothing good about damaging your health by living and sleeping in a cold and damp environment.
The trick is to park into the wind, and stick a book so it’s slightly pressing the pedal to stop the “auto-conk-out” feature that seems to exist on 17t vehicles in particular.
Seriously folks, if you fall asleep and your skin is exposed to +5 or less, you will go into hypothermia overnight, and might not wake up ever.
If you are sleeping in thick clothes all night long, then remind me not to double-man with you, 'cos you’re gonna stink by morning. 
Strip down to your undies, stick the night heater on full blast, so it doesn’t keep switching on and off, leave an inch gap at the top of both windows, and get your head down - you’re not even going to get carbon monoxide poisoning like that… Just don’t leave your bag with choc bars in it near the blower outlet like I did once… Ever put your hand into the old “drivers lucky dip” (side pouch on bag) and found out what really happened to Marianne faithful’s mars bar?.. 
Blimey sleeping with the heater on full blast! That would make me feel awful! Decent duvet for me and never have it on during sleepy time. But it should be drivers choice not some jumped up fool in an office
Leaving the night heater in all night would probaly still use less fuel than having the engine rrunning for half hour the next morning tfying to defrost the windows.
As carryfast says leave the engine on fast idle and it wont do no damage. Although it takes a bit of getting used to sleeping with it running.
kr79:
Leaving the night heater in all night would probaly still use less fuel than having the engine rrunning for half hour the next morning tfying to defrost the windows.
As carryfast says leave the engine on fast idle and it wont do no damage. Although it takes a bit of getting used to sleeping with it running.
… and is extremely bloody annoying to the parked neighbours!
bigvern1:
I worked for Montgomery’s at Crick a few years back. The old ■■■■■■ that was the TM took the night heater control panels out. You had to ask him for them if overnighting!
It’s why as a. Agency driver I picked up a Scania night heater control box on eBay several years ago
