Blaming somebody, and making sick jokes, are two different things.
YOU were responsible for YOUR stupid comment. Accept it you idiot. 
bigvern1:
Blaming somebody, and making sick jokes, are two different things.
YOU were responsible for YOUR stupid comment. Accept it you idiot.
WELL SAID bigvern.
bigvern1:
Blaming somebody, and making sick jokes, are two different things.
YOU were responsible for YOUR stupid comment. Accept it you idiot.
+1
bigvern1:
Blaming somebody, and making sick jokes, are two different things.
YOU were responsible for YOUR stupid comment. Accept it you idiot.
hay mate dont throw your toys out of a pram
spanishvan:
bigvern1:
Blaming somebody, and making sick jokes, are two different things.
YOU were responsible for YOUR stupid comment. Accept it you idiot.hay mate dont throw your toys out of a pram
Point proven. Youâre right. My mistake!
bigvern1:
spanishvan:
bigvern1:
Blaming somebody, and making sick jokes, are two different things.
YOU were responsible for YOUR stupid comment. Accept it you idiot.hay mate dont throw your toys out of a pram
Point proven. Youâre right. My mistake!
look at sky news there are blaming the trucker on the comment page and the facts has not came out yet
Never mind the blame factorâŚThatâs not my reasoning for âThrowing My Toys Out Of A Pramâ.
The reason people are â â â â â â off at you (Iâd better explain it, because you seem a liitleâŚDense!)
Is your bad taste joke.
It doesnât make the slightest difference whoâs fault it was. 2 people died here. And YOU were wrong.
Do us all a favour ,and keep your stupid thoughts to yourself. Iâm sure thereâs loads of room in your head anyway! 
bigvern1:
Never mind the blame factorâŚThatâs not my reasoning for âThrowing My Toys Out Of A Pramâ.
The reason people are â â â â â â off at you (Iâd better explain it, because you seem a liitleâŚDense!)
Is your bad taste joke.
It doesnât make the slightest difference whoâs fault it was. 2 people died here. And YOU were wrong.
Do us all a favour ,and keep your stupid thoughts to yourself. Iâm sure thereâs loads of room in your head anyway!
What Vern said. I donât give a toss whoâs fault it was.
bigvern1:
Never mind the blame factorâŚThatâs not my reasoning for âThrowing My Toys Out Of A Pramâ.
The reason people are â â â â â â off at you (Iâd better explain it, because you seem a liitleâŚDense!)
Is your bad taste joke.
It doesnât make the slightest difference whoâs fault it was. 2 people died here. And YOU were wrong.
Do us all a favour ,and keep your stupid thoughts to yourself. Iâm sure thereâs loads of room in your head anyway!
well at the moment no one is â â â â â â off with me
so why dont you get into your merc curtainsider and do so work
spanishvan:
bigvern1:
Never mind the blame factorâŚThatâs not my reasoning for âThrowing My Toys Out Of A Pramâ.
The reason people are â â â â â â off at you (Iâd better explain it, because you seem a liitleâŚDense!)
Is your bad taste joke.
It doesnât make the slightest difference whoâs fault it was. 2 people died here. And YOU were wrong.
Do us all a favour ,and keep your stupid thoughts to yourself. Iâm sure thereâs loads of room in your head anyway!well at the moment no one is â â â â â â off with me
so why dont you get into your merc curtainsider and do so work
Really, dâya think?
well at the moment no one is â â â â â â off with me
so why dont you get into your merc curtainsider and do so work
I think youâre a prick. And as it happens Iâm off on a job this afternoon. So take yerâ empty head to the zoo and look at some real intelligent creatures.
bigvern1:
well at the moment no one is â â â â â â off with me
so why dont you get into your merc curtainsider and do so workI think youâre a prick. And as it happens Iâm off on a job this afternoon. So take yerâ empty head to the zoo and look at some real intelligent creatures.
now now pâŚk is not called for
But making sick jokes is OK though? ByeâŚ
bigvern1:
well at the moment no one is â â â â â â off with me
so why dont you get into your merc curtainsider and do so workI think youâre a prick. And as it happens Iâm off on a job this afternoon. So take yerâ empty head to the zoo and look at some real intelligent creatures.
You really wouldnât want this prick as your Transport Manager. I feel like taking some scissors to both my CPC certificates, obviously they are both useless pieces of paper which I was once proud of!
Me? 
NEXT!!!
Maybe he was eating a carrot, and choked on itâŚor dangling a carrot before the horseâŚor maybe watching his laptop on the dashâŚor maybe had a heart attackâŚor whateverâŚbut i doubt you will read the coroners reportâŚwhatever occurredâŚthere is no need to drive into a stationary vehicleâŚfull stopâŚfor those that doâŚits lack of concentrationâŚnot watching what you are doingâŚif drivers had 100% concentration where it should beâŚthere would be fewer accidents and fatalitiesâŚunfortunatelyâŚthat will never happenâŚif we are supposed to be professionalsâŚwhy are there so many accidents on our roads, and motorwaysâŚand normally on the same stretchâŚday inâŚday outâŚ
there was a report opened on this subject and ive closed it as i think the point has been made to everyone. now lets keep it civil and on topic from now on.
now my personal view is agreeing with " mr b " working 15 hours and MAKING drivers take off 9 hours isnt acceptable. i myself need 8 hours sleep a night and i know people on here who can get by on 4 - 5 hours and carry on regardless. i can do about 6 hrs a couple of nights on the trot buts thats it i need my sleep. by the time a driver has clocked off, driven 20 mins home, had dinner, shower, and tried to get the kids back in bed ( mine always gets excited when dad gets home after mum has tried for 30 mins to get them in bed in the first place ) then get into bed and off to sleep. then when the alarm goes off get up, washed, breakfast, make flasks and get back in the car and travel 30 mins back to work to set of exactly 9 hours later, its not hard to see where we are going wrong.
sad fact as it is i bet this poor driver has hit this coach up the arse while half asleep.
i know in the past and still now i have got to a destination and have been bloody glad to get there and had a power nap due to being knackered and to top it all the M11 isnt known as the most exciting road is it. 
A mate of mine is a retained firefighter near there and his lot attended, he told me the details, no need to repeat them here but it wasnât very pleasant.
Ploughing into a stationary vehicle is bad enough but, 18 HOURS EARLIER AND ON THE SAME MOTORWAY âŚ
There I was driving down the M11 between J11 and J10 southbound. Time about 0620 Friday morning, traffic very very light. looking ahead I noticed what looked like an artic on the hard shoulder SORT OF!!!
I was only doing 60, and as I got closer i realised something didnât look right, then I noticed a person pacing up and down the hard shoulder phone to his ear. Hmmm, something not right here I thought so started to slow down expecting stop if needed. Thatâs when I noticed what was left of a car wedged underneath the rear nearside of the trailer.
Pulled over onto the hard shoulder grabbed my high viz and purple nitrile disposable gloves that I keep in the door for such occasions and jumped out. Walked towards the scene and spoke quickly to the truck driver to see if he was ok which he was,just a bit shaken and shocked, I asked if any one was still in the car as at the point all I could see was the roof was peeled back and pancaked down into the interior with the rest of the vehicle crushed under the rear N/S corner and side of the trailer. He said âyeah but Iâm not sure about himâ or something like that. He then started to explain that he didnât know what had hit him, only heard a bang etc but I told him to save it for the police and if he felt like helping to go down to my van which was parked in the fend off, stay up on the grass and wave off any approaching traffic until plod got there.
He went off to the van and I went to the car. On approaching it I saw the driver crushed down and across the seats, conscious but in pain. Went through the usual spiel with him then called the Fire Service control to confirm that this was in fact a âconfirmed persons trappedâ RTC and, if they hadnât done so already,to send an RT (Rescue Tender with all the cutting gear) along with the other responding crews.Wont go into any more details of the what happened next cos theyâre not really relevant.
The point being that this chap had managed to ram himself and his Volvo car right into and through and underneath the nearside rear half of the back of moving trailer. This vehicle, a well known supermarket truck,would presumably having been plodding along at 50mphish, traffic was very light.
Having thought long and hard I can only âpresumeâ that he was motoring at some serious speed with his cruise control on and either got distracted or fell asleep and rammed the trailer at full speed, the momentum and engine drive power carrying him under and clean through coming out with the drivers door etc jammed alongside the rear axle, roof peeled back and crushed down. How he didnt take his head off I dont know!
The impact of the Volvo bent the n/s tailift runner and trailer frame work forward at quite an angle so the speed he impacted at must have been very high.
Hitting a stationary vehicle is one thing but a moving artic with virtually nothing else on the road is something else!!
bullitt:
The point being that this chap had managed to ram himself and his Volvo car right into and through and underneath the nearside rear half of the back of moving trailer. This vehicle, a well known supermarket truck,would presumably having been plodding along at 50mphish, traffic was very light.Hitting a stationary vehicle is one thing but a moving artic with virtually nothing else on the road is something else!!
Seen something virtually exactly along those lines on an empty Mway, BMW straight under rear and took under run bar clean off and peeled the roof past the back seats , Itâs a good job the passenger had their head right down across the driver lap 
upon impact.
There again if the passengers head wasnât where it was maybe the driver would have concentrated on the road more 
.
It happens a lot stationary and moving stuff being hit