We allways see brake lights on,handbrake not been used,while stationary at traffic lights.Sometimes for a long time.It seems a lazy habit.All age groups and genders do this.And when you are waiting to turn left or right at a junction,you pull ahead to make the move,and at the last second,not able to complete it,and the vehicle behind has moved forward,blocking you,and you have about 2 feet of vehicle sticking out in to oncoming traffic.This happens a lot.How folks keep a cool head while the impatient humty dumty behind should be a tank driver in the Army.
The one thing I have noticed lately is the number of cars jumping lights as they go to red… 
The one thing I have noticed lately is the number of cars jumping lights as they go to red…
I remember the same thing being asked of the police not so very long ago, their response was “We hadn’t noticed any increased problem”, but you are right I have noticed this also.
I use the handbrake at lights because YES I rolled back once in a transit only stuffed the other cars number plate but that was an embarressment 
i’m really bad for this! I’ll sit with my foot on brake for ages then realise i need the hand brake to stop me rolling back just as the lights change.
I do hold the handbrake on, BUT still in gear with my foot on the clutch…
The ones I like are the clutch hoverers, no brakes, just hold it on the clutch, you can almost smell the clutch slowly cooking… 
I have a much more relaxed system.
Stop at red light (stopping at other colours when the road is clear tends to confuse other road users for some reason 
) apply handbrake, if likely to be for mare than 2 seconds, into neutral, feet off all pedals , hands off wheel - relax BUT keep all round observations going.
If last in queue keep eye on rear view in case anyone approaching from behind is not responding as I would like - maybe apply footbrake if concerned just as an extra warning.
If first in queue then I still have time when light goes to red/amber to select gear and check left mirror at the same time then go to hand brake and check right mirror at same time - head forward & move off - lights have been green for half a second approx.
No point in checking rearview mirror as I am not going backwards - I just need to know if anything is coming along sides
I teach the same for the advanced.
Im guilty
I do use the handbrake in a lorry just not in my car.
The only time I use a handbrake is when I park my car or if I need to make a sharp turn.
I don’t really see the problem unless the person starts rolling back towards you when they try and get their foot off the brake and on to the accelerator.
I never roll back I am just too good 
Well it depends on where you learnt to drive. I learnt to drive cars in Belgium and never once learned how to use the handbrake and always used the break. Then i returned to ireland to do my class 2 and 1 and was told to always use the handbreak even in my car… Yes it might be a lazy habbit but then again you never know how these people learnt
acceptme:
you never know how these people learnt
True, but it does not take much time and practice (about 4 weeks on average) to change and use a new system like the one I mentioned in my last post
I would think that keeping the foot brake depressed increases the drivers work load for no good reason, when in a com mercial motor I set the hand brake .If I am in my car e.g. paying for fuel I switch engine off if I think I will be stopped for more than 2 minutes.
ROG:
acceptme:
you never know how these people learntTrue, but it does not take much time and practice (about 4 weeks on average) to change and use a new system like the one I mentioned in my last post
ye but why change your ways if its not effecting you or anybody else??
acceptme:
but why change your ways if its not effecting you or anybody else??
No one said you have to - it’s just an alternative relaxing option.
As long as the brake lights are not blazing into the eyes of the driver waiting behind then there is usually not a problem.
I have a great question for those that do the above - “would you stop in a queue and out your fog lights on?” - fog lights are about the same high density of brake lights and yet most would not dream of doing that 
ROG:
I have a great question for those that do the above - “would you stop in a queue and out your fog lights on?” - fog lights are about the same high density of brake lights and yet most would not dream of doing that
Fog lights have a higher intensity than brake lights.
bubsy06:
Fog lights have a higher intensity than brake lights.
Is there much in it as I cannot see much difference 
ROG:
bubsy06:
Fog lights have a higher intensity than brake lights.Is there much in it as I cannot see much difference
Fog lights are about 150 candelas and brake lights about 80 candelas.
bubsy06:
ROG:
bubsy06:
Fog lights have a higher intensity than brake lights.Is there much in it as I cannot see much difference
Fog lights are about 150 candelas and brake lights about 80 candelas.
Must get my eyes checked again - I never realised that there was almost a double difference 
Fog lights have a higher intensity than brake lights.
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i think you will find that they are not.brake lights and fog lights use the same wattage bulbs by law.(21 watt).the reflective backing for brake lights is usually white,and fog lights silver which makes them seem brighter.
I must admit that I do this, sit with the footbrake on rather than the handbrake. maybe it comes from laziness, maybe it comes from being a biker and never found the handbrake yet 
I always use the handbrake, I was told that when coming to a halt from speed the front brake discs can get hot and the insulating properties of the brake pads cause the front discs to cool unevenly, causing them to warp. Better to use the handbrake on the cooler rear drums/discs.