I’ve just been told Youngs in Purfleet do not pay for nights out.
Basically when working on containers you are out on the road, run out of time, and have to spend the night in a lay by , you won’t get paid any night out money.
Are there more companies like this out there?
Sounds like a stitch up, maybe they have a really good hourly rate to compensate for it 
Yes one in sheerness
A very good friend and ex workmate of mine recently went for an interview with a well known medium size operator who runs quite flashy motors and has been in featured in the trade press a couple of times in the last year or so. He wad told it’s usually two nights out per week which are included in the salary. When he asked what they would pay if he had more than two he was told “we will try to make sure you only have one the next week”.
He declined the offer. It was less than 27k.in the first place!
We have day cabs only. Some folk get planned 2 day runs, sometimes when out on a day run (only happened to me once in 2 years) you run out of hours.
We all get a Premier Inn card when we start. We get a room and £20 for food or drink. As for the arse pocket, nothing.
PaulNowak:
We have day cabs only. Some folk get planned 2 day runs, sometimes when out on a day run (only happened to me once in 2 years) you run out of hours.We all get a Premier Inn card when we start. We get a room and £20 for food or drink. As for the arse pocket, nothing.
The only thing that gets on my bits is that we don’t have anyone back at base to sort rooms for us. If I’m miles from anywhere, struggling for hours, the last thing I need is to have to find somewhere to park up, so I can try and get on the net, in the vain hope that I’ll be able to find somewhere within range to park up eventually.
I don’t get night out money. I am happy with the deal I have with my boss. 
I wouldn’t do more than a flat 8 hour shift - let alone overnight - with a “day cab”.
As soon as there’s a major road closure, you’re screwed bigtime - IF you take on such gear to do anything but a “short daytime job” which is what “day cabs” are blleedin’ well supposed to be for.
…i bet the transport manager/planner & co wouldnt spend a night in a ■■■■ stinking layby so why should you■■?..sounds to to me more like yet another free with the companys petrol aa map transport planner…could be wrong could be right but no night out money then no nights out…unless as stated they top the wage up…but id get it in writing
I hate day cabs with a passion! even on day work i just find them uncomfortable and generally nowhere (safe) to put my bag within reach, as for nights out in them been there and done it.
i don’t mind not getting paid as long as i get all my expenses, and i’m in a decent cab that is clean, and not had someone smoking in it.
Nobody gets “Paid” for nights out, they are “Reimbursed” or whatever [zb]ty name they come up with it these days.
I would be happy with a day cab, park up at a MSA and book in at a travel lodge/days inn with a meal/breakfast. I would not sleep in a manky truck that other drivers have been in for the last 3 years or so. No amount of money would get me to do that.
Its crazy, some MSA’s charge 20 pounds for parking and a night in the on-site hotel is about 30-45 pounds with free parking. so for the sake of 10-25 pounds, you get a warm comfortable room with decent facilities. I know which I would go for.
That’s really not on, the only point of tramping is that you get your £20 plus odd, tax free. Otherwise what’s the point?
Silver_Surfer:
That’s really not on, the only point of tramping is that you get your £20 plus odd, tax free. Otherwise what’s the point?
The love of a nomadic lifestyle
The first driving job my brother had involved four or five nights out a week, on a flat salary of about £380 a week take home. He didn’t get his parking paid or anything, so obviously used to park up wherever he could for free. One night, when trying to back into a layby on Saddleworth Moor with a loaded container on the back, he misjudged it and put the trailer wheels onto soft ground, and the next thing it had sunk. It lifted one side of the back of the unit off the ground, put a twist in the chassis and cost his gaffer the thick end of six grand for a crane and a wrecker. All for the sake of saving a few quid on parking. He doesn’t work there any more …
How many other professions expect you to stay out all night away from your family for £20 odd. In a tin box with crap facilities. Ridiculous really
midlifetrucker:
How many other professions expect you to stay out all night away from your family for £20 odd. In a tin box with crap facilities. Ridiculous really
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If I can explain the situation as I believe it stands.Night out money is a figure agreed between HMRC and your employer,as an O/D mine is something
around £23 tax free.I can however have £500 per night out,taxable and I have to have receipts and I cannot switch back to normal nights out within
that year.Someone may have a better explanation but that is how I believe it stands.
Armagedon:
If I can explain the situation as I believe it stands.Night out money is a figure agreed between HMRC and your employer,as an O/D mine is something
around £23 tax free.
Current amount is £26.16, and obviously it makes sense to pay yourself the maximum possible as it’s tax free. You can also pay yourself £2 a day meal allowance regardless of whether you have a night out. This is payable without receipts.
The Swiss used to pay a guaranteed amount for nights out whether were at home or not. They paid a flat salary for the months holiday . When I started I would feel responsible for the load when parked up,but as things got more dodgy I ignored any break-ins that might happen and looked after number one in the middle of night. If the guvnor wanted overnight security they could pay me the eight or nine hours rest time. Luckily only had a couple of incidents .
Armagedon:
If I can explain the situation as I believe it stands.Night out money is a figure agreed between HMRC and your employer,as an O/D mine is something
around £23 tax free.I can however have £500 per night out,taxable and I have to have receipts and I cannot switch back to normal nights out within
that year.Someone may have a better explanation but that is how I believe it stands.
na that don’t stand… what if your a night tramper
Night out Money as called is the amount of money agreed between YOU and your EMPLOYER that you get given for the inconvenience of being away from home for your narmal sleeping arrangements . it has nothing to do with HMRC that’s to do with the Tax free allowence
your boss might want to pay more than the tax free allowance…