No more layby parking they say

chester1:
Tryfinding an MSA in suffolk or norfolk

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Ive been over in Spain for a long time now but on my recent visits back nothing much seems to have changed. Is there even any truck stops left??

I dont mind trucks in laybys to be honest. Most of the time the drivers seem to be sleeping :grimacing:

AndrewG:

chester1:
Tryfinding an MSA in suffolk or norfolk

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Ive been over in Spain for a long time now but on my recent visits back nothing much seems to have changed. Is there even any truck stops left??

The big problem truck stops had here is when they put ap a fence around the parking area to make it secure (ish) it put the land into a different rate bracket and made a lot of truck stops un-viable

What about the truckers cafe at Kelveden 0n the A12 single carriageway section, is it stll open ■■ … :laughing:

If drivers have food for next morning and some canister with water ,gas cooker that not big different stay at good lay by or in industrial estate.I all the time prefer stay at lay by.Anyway driver after 1-2 hours after stop will sleep.If i got gas cooker that make coffee at morning taked 5 minute.

Seems to me,judging by some of the more,let’s say,sanctimonious offerings here,maybe there needs to be a separate forum for trampers,there really is a world of difference twix this and day work.All the prurient drivel directed at those of us who choose a more Davey Crocket type of deal needs to cease,we do it coz we do it,end of.

robroy:

daftvader:
+1.Spot on that post Robroy

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Just the way I see it mate.
These day men just make me laugh with the ‘kipping in a tin box’’ analogy, the ‘never washing properly’ one, and all the rest of the ■■■■■■■■ they perceive about us. :unamused:

I’ve always considered tramping as one of the main things about calling yourself a trucker, obviously others disagree and make us out to be stupid for doing it.

And i see it the same way as you.I got into this trucking malarky 27yrs ago.And was always set on tramping.Your always going to get those who say were nuts for doing it.But its more a way of life than just a run of the mill job.I like you.And proberly nearly every other tramper has everything we need to enjoy the tramping side of the job.

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daftvader:
.But its more a way of life than just a run of the mill job.

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Nail on head.
Those getting homesick after getting 200km down the road need to find something else to earn a crust. Ill never understand the thinking behind having to be home every night, the missus/kids/house will still be there when you get back, what really is the big deal with 3-5nights out… :confused:

AndrewG:

daftvader:
.But its more a way of life than just a run of the mill job.

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Nail on head.
Those getting homesick after getting 200km down the road need to find something else to earn a crust. Ill never understand the thinking behind having to be home every night, the missus/kids/house will still be there when you get back, what really is the big deal with 3-5nights out… :confused:

It may be horses for courses and all that but ask yourself that question again when you’re on your death-bed.

Me? I prefer life on Easy Street.

On my death bed i’ll remember all the great times I had…and all the good friends I gained,as a tramper.
Nobody forces me to tramp.

Tried tramping a couple of times - thoroughly hated it! Why I did it the second time I’ll never know. But then it wasn’t a lifestyle choice for me, lorry driving was just a job, no more no less. For those who like to be out four or five nights every week, good luck to you, I don’t know how you do it. For those, like me, who want to be home every night after doing as little driving as possible, leave us in piece to do it our way.

On my death bed assuming not screaming in agony at the time i’ll remember coming home every afternoon or evening and being mobbed by the good lady and three lovely dogs who couldn’t be any happier to see me, being in the bosom of said little family every evening (when i finally got away from nights away), getting a shower in comfort, having good food lovingly prepared, and cuddling up with a fine woman who thinks (for some reason only the Lord above could fathom) that the sun shines out of my arse.

I’ve had to do my share of nights away over the years, suffered them and made the best of them but have always been happiest on day or night work, especially when that work had paid better than the other work that involved nights away, and yes all the day/night work jobs without nights away i’ve taken have paid better and for less hours than the general type work i left each time which included nights away.

If i don’t qualify as a real trucker because of this i’ll grin and bear it don’t worry :laughing:

Incidentally, i take as much pride in my work as anyone else out there, and far more than most if the state of their vehicles is anything to go by.

ThrustMaster:

AndrewG:

daftvader:
.But its more a way of life than just a run of the mill job.

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Nail on head.
Those getting homesick after getting 200km down the road need to find something else to earn a crust. Ill never understand the thinking behind having to be home every night, the missus/kids/house will still be there when you get back, what really is the big deal with 3-5nights out… :confused:

It may be horses for courses and all that but ask yourself that question again when you’re on your death-bed.

Me? I prefer life on Easy Street.

Don’t believe all the crap…Tramping can be and is easy.
It only becomes hard if you allow it to be, and the way you do it.
The way some of you treat it like an endurance test aint for me, I would not have lasted a week at it, but managed the thick end of 30+ years doing it my own way, making it as pleasant comfortable chilled and social as possible…and still achieve my workload.
Try it. :bulb:

Juddian:
If i don’t qualify as a real trucker because of this i’ll grin and bear it don’t worry :laughing:

Incidentally, i take as much pride in my work as anyone else out there, and far more than most if the state of their vehicles is anything to go by.

Yeh it does not suit everybody, but don’t worry Juddian mate, you are deffo one of the few ‘‘real truckers’’ on here. :wink:

Meant to ask…can you lend me 20 quid until Friday. :laughing:

AndrewG:

daftvader:
.But its more a way of life than just a run of the mill job.

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Nail on head.
Those getting homesick after getting 200km down the road need to find something else to earn a crust. Ill never understand the thinking behind having to be home every night, the missus/kids/house will still be there when you get back, what really is the big deal with 3-5nights out… :confused:

It’s a big world and you can literally be paid to go see loads of it, and the real “it” not just some tourist beach resort.

Fair enough for those who’ve been around the block but why anyone would enter this industry to drive round the same bit of the country every day is quite sad really.

Most jobs I’ve had have involved being away, it’s funny that when you come back everyone else has been doing the same thing and nothing has changed yet you’ve been here, there and everywhere, met some mad people and been paid handsomely for it all.

A.

Some people have an odd opinion on what a real trucker is, there are those that have scraped through the HGV licence and are driving around simply following a satnav, those that have never picked up a map and couldn’t read one or worked out their own route if it meant de touring from the sat nav, those that have never thought for themselves and are incapable of using their own initiative, but living and sleeping in a cab doesn’t really mean your not a real trucker. It is similar to stating that your not a real holiday maker unless you have never been camping. Tramping doesn’t suit some for lots of reasons, I prefer tramping for reasons other than being a real trucker. I find it easier to tramp than day working or night driving, I know some excellent day drivers and wouldn’t call myself a real trucker because I am a tramper. I am also a very clean tramper and would put many a day driver to shame with my appearance and 'I have been on the road all week. Am I special for tramping, no I am just special full stop.

UKtramp:
. I am just special full stop.

Why not just draw a target on your forehead bud instead. :laughing:

robroy:

UKtramp:
. I am just special full stop.

Why not just draw a target on your forehead bud instead. :laughing:

Sorry I couldn’t resist :smiley: To be fair though Adonis has a good point about European driving, my opinion has never altered about that, European trampers are the real trampers. I would love to do it and for all of the reasons he says. Just never had the opportunity to do it but it is high on my bucket list.

Stanley Knife:
For those, like me, who want to be home every night after doing as little driving as possible, leave us in piece to do it our way.

Ironic in the fact that most of the slagging off on here has been towards trampers not day/night men. :neutral_face:

Myself, I love tramping if I was single I’d gladly take those three week away euro jaunts, but unfortunately the Wife said I signed a clause in the marriage certificate that states I have to spend at least some time with her, so I always had to settle for weekly 3 to 4 nights away tramping, no commuting other than Sun night/Mon morning and Fri evening (or Sat if you did a run in), no panicking and clock watching with the “must get back to the yard for the night driver” left to your own devices pretty much (assuming you’ve established with the office you do in fact possess a brain and can get the job done without being micro-managed)

I’ve also done night trunking, easy money! Set start time, hang around drinking coffee waiting for that last “must go on tonights trunk” pallet to come in then saunter up to Rugby (or wherever) and join a queue, unload then park up for four hours whilst the depot forkies rush round like headless chickens on amphetamines, queue back up to be loaded and then mosey on back home to your yard. The only negatives with this job are sameness leading to boredom for some and trying to sleep during the day when your neighbour decides that his lawn suddenly needs mowing every other day and the hedges need strimming on the alternative days.

Shunting (both local and site specific), again you know your start times, very rarely run to max hours so should never be asked or expected to take a 9 at home, tend to rush your socks off whether it’s moving trailers about all day and in and out of the cab like a yoyo or having to assist with trailer prep (opening and closing curtains, strapping and even sheeting/de-sheeting if working with flats) at least the day tends to go by quickly and it’s knocking off time before you know it.

Day driver (day runs) Evil personified if you ask me, start times ranging from 2am to “ooh I get a lay in tomorrow, I don’t have to start till 04:30”, more often than not your doing the same runs as a tramper yet they can relax and park up once delivered or reloaded whilst your still sat on the M whatever in traffic, s[zb]ing it because your hours are nearly up, phone calls every half hour asking what time you’ll be back because “we’ve got a driver waiting on the truck (or trailer)”, trying to explain to the office that you’ve already done two 10’s (and it’s only Wednesday) oh and only have one RDR left too. Nah, no thanks.

Of course this is just my opinion you’re free to disagree, you can show your maturity and intellect by disagreeing without hurling insults if you really like! :smiley:

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