Hi first off like to say great forum have found some good info on here, new to the game ok on driving, still not 100% with the ins and outs of tachographs,
would the following scenarios be legal.?
2.5 hours driving time
15 min break
1 hour other work
2 hours driving
30 min break
30 min driving time
15min break
4 hours driving time
30min break
4hours driving time
15 min break
30 driving time
30 min break
also is there a certain time i must be driving before i can take a taco break??
or could i clock a break straight away?
eg. 15mins break
4.5 hours driving
30 min break
or is the break always after the driving?
Any help or replys at all much appreciated from all you guys more accustomed to the tachos and the likes,
FlyinTDI
The first 3 examples are fine, you’ve always had the breaks in the right order and on time.
You cannot have a driving break until you’ve done some driving so the last example would not be legal, it would count as a 30 minute break after 4.5 hours driving which is not legal.
You can do 1 minute driving then have the first part of a driving break, you can have a WTD break after a minutes work but it won’t count as a driving break unless you’ve done some driving.
tachograph:
The first 3 examples are fine, you’ve always had the breaks in the right order and on time.
You cannot have a driving break until you’ve done some driving so the last example would not be legal, it would count as a 30 minute break after 4.5 hours driving which is not legal.
You can do 1 minute driving then have the first part of a driving break, you can have a WTD break after a minutes work but it won’t count as a driving break unless you’ve done some driving.
i probably should have realised you had to actually drive a minute to count as a driving break, oops!
thanks for informative replys !,
I completely forgot about the walk around check first,
Very handy also to know i can take a break after 1 min driving,
my plan is to use a kitchen timer and just set it to 4.5 hours and let it count down everytime i hop in the cab, the only way i can think of would work for me,
In regards keeping track of weekly/two-weekly driving hours does anyone have any particular way they would do that, is it just best to just do a printout every week. or are there others way i am overlooking?
any tips of the trade are greatly appreciated,
better to know now saves alot of hassle
FlyinTDI:
my plan is to use a kitchen timer and just set it to 4.5 hours and let it count down everytime i hop in the cab
If you use a digital tachograph it will show you how much driving time you’ve used since the last 45 minute break, how much break you’ve had and how much other work and POA you’ve done, you should take these times off the tachograph display and not a kitchen timer.
FlyinTDI:
In regards keeping track of weekly/two-weekly driving hours does anyone have any particular way they would do that, is it just best to just do a printout every week. or are there others way i am overlooking?
A digital tachograph will show you how much fortnightly driving time you’ve done.
FlyinTDI:
any tips of the trade are greatly appreciated
Here’s a tip, unless you’re using an analogue tachograph leave the kitchen timer in the kitchen where it belongs
If you use a digital tachograph it will show you how much driving time you’ve used since the last 45 minute break, how much break you’ve had and how much other work and POA you’ve done, you should take these times off the tachograph display and not a kitchen timer.
Great, is that on display on taco while driving?
Here’s a tip, unless you’re using an analogue tachograph leave the kitchen timer in the kitchen where it belongs
The newer tachographs are slightly different to the ones on the simulator but this will give you a good idea of how they work, the simulator shows you how to use 3 types of digital tachograph (Siemens, Stoneridge and Actia), the most widely used digital tachographs in the UK are the Siemens so I would have a look at that one.
It’s good practice to make sure that you get the card in and on other work whilst doing your walk round checks, this way if you are stopped you have a record showing the time to backup that you did your daily check. Some companies insist on a certain amount eg 10 or 15 minutes before you leave the yard.
NickW88:
It’s good practice to make sure that you get the card in and on other work whilst doing your walk round checks, this way if you are stopped you have a record showing the time to backup that you did your daily check. Some companies insist on a certain amount eg 10 or 15 minutes before you leave the yard.
Just been reading some of the tacho posts in the time dir section, seems overly complicated, even on one set of rules but when going outside domestic its nuts,
I’ve always been told the Tacho should match the time sheet. So for instance if I start at 4 am officially I use manual entries for other work to show the delay between start and card insertion.
Likewise if you eject card at 1745 but then debrief etc until 1800 you should manual entry that 15 minutes the next day to account for it as other work.
NickW88:
I’ve always been told the Tacho should match the time sheet. So for instance if I start at 4 am officially I use manual entries for other work to show the delay between start and card insertion.
Likewise if you eject card at 1745 but then debrief etc until 1800 you should manual entry that 15 minutes the next day to account for it as other work.
Manual entry where nick ? on your time sheet ?
So i take it your not salaried ? hourly ? agency ?
