greg50:
limeyphil:
if the drivers arn’t getting paid, then why are they working?
i’d have used up the fuel card and stripped the unit for export by now.checkmate,and it would be the first time i had to do it.
of topic for a moment.
did you ever get any futher with the fuel saver phil?
Is this out come of a disgruntled stobart driver who told wages dept he would be keeping the unit and trailer until they corrected his wages…he hid the truck down the bottom of his garden and forgot all about it.
Silver_Surfer:
The post isn’t about the liquidity of the company and it’s continued operation (i’d buy shares in them if I had any money!) just that they aren’t very good at getting the driver’s wages correct which could be forgivable if the errors were rectified in a timely fashion but which by the sound of it they are not.
on bank holidays we should get 11 p.h [hours worked],77pounds+12.15 meal allowance+5pounds ops bonus,when we came to being paid for the bank holidays we didnt get the 77 pounds even though it was in our contract . i dont know who or why they decided not to pay it but when it was brought to there attention it was in our contract they paid it in our next wage packet.
we all didnt get paid the 25 pounds weekly ops bonus one week ,dont know why , but again it was bought to there attention and paid in the next wage packet ,
at our depot youve got sun-thurs ,tues-sat ,thurs-mon ,fri- tues ,fri -sun drivers, 24 -7 start times, 180 odd drivers, im not making a excuse for the wages dept but it must be a nightmare to work out whos doing what, whats o/t and whats your shift , ive had a fair few mistakes other than the ones above but i just show our wages girl and its sorted by the next pay day, but its getting less and less as they seem to be getting used to our shift patterns .so in my case they do get rectified , and lets be honest ive never worked for a firm that gets your wages right 100% of the time.
greg50:
what exactly has stobart done for british haulage?
or haulage in any other country he operates in!
hes undercut and taken work off small hauliers and owner drivers.
the sooner he is gone the better.
hes now in ireland,
this saddens me,he wasnt needed there.
he is only good for shareholders,or leeches who have never driven trucks in their lives.
if he went, it would put a lot of drivers out of work
this could be a roadway to smaller operator getting back ito the race again.
like tmg and wincanton.
they are no good for the small man.
good riddance if they all hit the wall.
fear not… they are losing some contracts for the insulation stuff they ship out i belive 
to the smaller game players
i knew about a possible sittingbourne contract going… but the other week… some eddie monkey, came bounding over to me…looking like hes just done a oil change on his unit!! and this was a monday morning asking if the company i work was was part of a group.(of companys). and started moaning WE WERE NICKING THIER WORK 
, so asked him if he meant the place in kent…, he replied no southwales…, then moaned even more they might lose 2 depots lol…
o well eddie… some you win some you lose 
too right daz.
i wonder how much work eddie plundered to have a fleet that size.
something baffles me a little.
i live in the liverpool area,so i get the local rag,every week they have a business section.
i read recently
stobart bought over oconners of widnes.the rail yard.
thay have had millions in grant aid to get this going.
now i realise the government are thinking about the kyoto agreement and emmisions etc,but.
stobare is suppose to be a [rivate company,i cant see why the government would give them aid,
more to the point,i hate to see them getting any help whatsoever,i suppose they will get more to develop carslile airport.
if they did go down,i would for deffo celebrate,
in case anyine thinksi am anti english companies,
id love dearly to see nolan in ireland go the same way.hesanother dangerous rate cutter,
a friend of mine has just lost his job running to spain,nolan cut his companies rate by 1000 euro a load to sth spain.
the co my mate drives for have/had?
6 trucks…nolan,approx 6or 700 with mostly underpaid poles driving them.
its impossible to compete against big companies like that.
ady1:
180 odd drivers
How many normal ones?
Highlander:
ady1:
180 odd driversHow many normal ones?
one 
ady1:
Highlander:
ady1:
180 odd driversHow many normal ones?
one
2
and me
tasty:
and me
Succinct.
I’d already spoken for you. See above. You do enough bloody moaning about it.
Another late finish. 
Krankee:
tasty:
and meSuccinct.
I’d already spoken for you. See above. You do enough bloody moaning about it.
Another late finish.
yep “locals” 3 colections in Evesham and a rescue from Cherwell valley!!.Going back to wages,I think its an Apleton problem as apose to a depot problem.my personal take on it is the fact payroll have more work to do now with another 1000 odd drivers more since taking on the chill.And with the added problem of different pay different contracts Blakes,express,corby inovate and stobarts
My wages have been right everytime but im still on salary.
greg50:
what exactly has stobart done for british haulage?
or haulage in any other country he operates in!
hes undercut and taken work off small hauliers and owner drivers.
the sooner he is gone the better.
hes now in ireland,
this saddens me,he wasnt needed there.
he is only good for shareholders,or leeches who have never driven trucks in their lives.
if he went, it would put a lot of drivers out of work
this could be a roadway to smaller operator getting back ito the race again.
like tmg and wincanton.
they are no good for the small man.
good riddance if they all hit the wall.
If Stobarts went to the wall (and I doubt they will) then I can’t see the smaller players getting the work back, the likes of DHL and Wincanton would swoop in and pick up the pieces.
this has been talked about before the small hauliers cant compete with stobarts because the have,nt got enough trucks to cover the work we got big contracts like coke nestle tescos all because we can handle the volumes a guy with 10 trucks couldent manage that
HIGH FLYER:
this has been talked about before the small hauliers cant compete with stobarts because the have,nt got enough trucks to cover the work we got big contracts like coke nestle tescos all because we can handle the volumes a guy with 10 trucks couldent manage that
Would I be correct in assuming that most of Eddie’s work is now 3PL type stuff eg; Tesco’s and the above mentioned rather than General Haulage. Most of the hostility towards the big Green seems to be based on him using his large size to undercut smaller operators on General Haulage.
NB: I don’t actually know a great deal about General Haulage (being a glorified delivery driver) but I’m just going on what’s said on here.
why does every body still act as though eddie still runs stobarts
I thought he soldout to his brother and a consortium of big
money men like playing trucks 
I’d bet that if stobbies looked like going under then the government would bail him out big style.Makes a mockery of other companys going to the wall like LDV etc
ady1:
at our depot youve got sun-thurs ,tues-sat ,thurs-mon ,fri- tues ,fri -sun drivers, 24 -7 start times, 180 odd drivers, im not making a excuse for the wages dept but it must be a nightmare to work out whos doing what, whats o/t and whats your shift
Can’t agree. It’s their job, it’s what they’re paid for. Everything will be detailed on a timesheet.
Enter the details into the computer on a Monday morning. It’s not rocket science.
Stan
I’d love to comment on this thread as i’d heard a lot of the same things and i reckon theres a lot of unhappy drivers here ,but i’m too afraid to post as i reckon people from the company look at this site and i reckon any excuse to get rid of you i think they would.
Whether i’m being daft i don’t know but i just don’t trust the heirachy at ESL,and till this credit crunch/recession(delete as appropiate!) works its way through i’m going to put up and shut up even though at the moment i’m very unhappy with the job and the company.
WRong Forum
jase:
I’d love to comment on this thread as i’d heard a lot of the same things and i reckon theres a lot of unhappy drivers here ,but i’m too afraid to post as i reckon people from the company look at this site and i reckon any excuse to get rid of you i think they would.
Whether i’m being daft i don’t know but i just don’t trust the heirachy at ESL,and till this credit crunch/recession(delete as appropiate!) works its way through i’m going to put up and shut up even though at the moment i’m very unhappy with the job and the company.
Ditto Jase.
Today was our last day in Cwmbran (my depot) but Stobart will not tell us if our jobs are safe. The shunters and depot supervisor have been TUPE’d over to the new company in there. Our drivers rep has been trying to get hold of the senior ESL manager responsible in Carlisle but he won’t answer the phone to him. Next week we’re running from Newport but nobody knows if it’s permanent. Yes, i am unhappy with them too. Just bloody tell us one way or t’other.
Greg50, the reason we’re out of Knauf is because Stobart was undercut by 17% on his rate. Poetic justice you’d say. But i’ll say this for Eddie, he told Knauf to ■■■■ off when they asked him to match the lower quote.
daidap.
i am suprised at stobart being undercut.
its normally them doing it.
who undercut them?or are you comfortable in replying to this?
no prob either way.
i am also suprised at them sticking to their guns.