Good. The Pole’s can go back to picking carrots in the fields (low-skilled labour). That’s the only thing they’re good for as they’re hopeless at driving wagons 
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Winseer:
No more TfL jobs for illegal immigrants, no speke English born here types, nor licenceless brudders…
Please explain how these immigration rule changes will stop illegal immigrants, as if you’re illegal having some arbitrary points system isn’t going to stop you coming here illegally or working off the radar of HMRC and the border agency?
Nite Owl:
Immigration: No visas for low-skilled workers, government says - BBC NewsPoints for working in an industry considered to have a shortage of personnel AND for working in a “skilled” profession.
Thanks to this fake driver shortage, foreign drivers are still going to be popular and wages/conditions wont be improving any time soon.
Has anybody seen the list of what is considered a skilled job?
Although I’m sure as I write this the bigwigs of the haulage industry are beating a path to the door of number 10 to make their case to be considered a special case, but from the sounds of it they’ll be in a queue with the Farming industry, (which is pretty much the same people as the haulage industry in Norfolk) The care industry and the hospitality industry.
muckles:
Nite Owl:
Immigration: No visas for low-skilled workers, government says - BBC NewsPoints for working in an industry considered to have a shortage of personnel AND for working in a “skilled” profession.
Thanks to this fake driver shortage, foreign drivers are still going to be popular and wages/conditions wont be improving any time soon.
Has anybody seen the list of what is considered a skilled job?
Although I’m sure as I write this the bigwigs of the haulage industry are beating a path to the door of number 10 to make their case to be considered a special case, but from the sounds of it they’ll be in a queue with the Farming industry, (which is pretty much the same people as the haulage industry in Norfolk) The care industry and the hospitality industry.
Hit. Head. Nail.
Can anyone make a sentence including these words?
Oh, and include a phrase “dropping the minimum pay requirements, from 40k to £25k”.
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Your second task is to make a sentence including the words:
Down. Sold. River.
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Yes, I do agree with an awful lot of what you’re saying Muckles, but, I don’t see the outcome as you (may) do.
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“Interesting Times”…as the proverb has it…
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Why is it a big deal just because the elected party are trying to control migrants, this was one reason they were elected this country is full
Franglais:
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Your second task is to make a sentence including the words:
Down. Sold. River.
Any working class who trusts the Tories deserves to be sold down the River.
Whether trusting the Party that took us into the EU to take us out of it.Or that a points based immigration system will mean what it says on the tin.
So remind us why we have a problem with East Euro labour creating over supply of the domestic labour market and downward pressure on wage levels here.When the EU is supposed to be the working class utopia.
the real problem I see it
the migrants come here there paid the minimum wage set by the government.
they do the jobs the younger English born wont do.
if there all made to leave \cant come here the jobs will be there.
but can you see the English working any ware really for the minmum wage? I cant
they all want something for nothing and are probably better off on benefits.
edd1974:
the real problem I see it
the migrants come here there paid the minimum wage set by the government.they do the jobs the younger English born wont do.
if there all made to leave \cant come here the jobs will be there.
but can you see the English working any ware really for the minmum wage? I cant
they all want something for nothing and are probably better off on benefits.
Near enough spot on, exception being that there ARE plenty of us natives who have quite literally scrubbed bogs, and worked 3 jobs between us to stay out of the benefits(although there are 1/2 you actually can’t refuse as such, parents will know… ) saved, payed and then been junked off by greedy brits/corporates who want only the cheapest labour, again thanks to consumer greed wanting it cheaper, which can’t be done here.
They use rules like "2yrs drive experience " as an example lol
Well that’s no problem if you ain’t from here lol, bit harder to do if your legit as we all know[emoji849][emoji38]
It’s simple, send back all the dross, thus black market labour is all but gone, and alot of the associated spin offs stop…
STOP ALL but essential migration.
Make it Compulsory we skill our own first, huge reduction in benefits paid out, plus more housing then becomes available as the cheap 12 to a house ■■■■ ends, hopefully the costs fall as supply will be well below demand then and folks can get on.
And have a collective agreement as a nation to agree to pay a couple pence more each to get the skills up, and allow a wage that’s fair for the so called ‘low skilled jobs’ that do need to be done.
Now this will all depend on one crucial element, jobs to go into that allow a decent living to be achieved, as working 3 jobs is a very difficult thing to do, without wasting your time as tax man rapes you, basically 3 part time jobs =1 pays ya stamp/tax.
Gov then say its not paying so they top you up■■? Lol.
If the jobs are low pay/hours then it’s a minefield as gov will auto top up incomes, thus you can’t avoid being on one of the many traps, an you’d be amazed what earning even £50 extra over a year can cost you for the next in gov owed debt, yet be £50 under and its the extreme the other way.
Whole systems a disgrace, it punishes honesty with cruelty thanks too greed and ignorance, be it from the wealthy or from those who want more/cheaper which is in part all our faults.
We as a POPULATION need a serious rethink on values, yet somehow I can’t see it happening as world’s only about one thing, ME.
The answers are simple, the balls to do it on the other hand are small.
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Benjie83:
edd1974:
the real problem I see it
the migrants come here there paid the minimum wage set by the government.they do the jobs the younger English born wont do.
if there all made to leave \cant come here the jobs will be there.
but can you see the English working any ware really for the minmum wage? I cant
they all want something for nothing and are probably better off on benefits.Near enough spot on, exception being that there ARE plenty of us natives who have quite literally scrubbed bogs, and worked 3 jobs between us to stay out of the benefits(although there are 1/2 you actually can’t refuse as such, parents will know… ) saved, payed and then been junked off by greedy brits/corporates who want only the cheapest labour, again thanks to consumer greed wanting it cheaper, which can’t be done here.
They use rules like "2yrs drive experience " as an example lol
Well that’s no problem if you ain’t from here lol, bit harder to do if your legit as we all know[emoji849][emoji38]It’s simple, send back all the dross, thus black market labour is all but gone, and alot of the associated spin offs stop…
STOP ALL but essential migration.
Make it Compulsory we skill our own first, huge reduction in benefits paid out, plus more housing then becomes available as the cheap 12 to a house [zb] ends, hopefully the costs fall as supply will be well below demand then and folks can get on.And have a collective agreement as a nation to agree to pay a couple pence more each to get the skills up, and allow a wage that’s fair for the so called ‘low skilled jobs’ that do need to be done.
Now this will all depend on one crucial element, jobs to go into that allow a decent living to be achieved, as working 3 jobs is a very difficult thing to do, without wasting your time as tax man rapes you, basically 3 part time jobs =1 pays ya stamp/tax.
Gov then say its not paying so they top you up■■? Lol.If the jobs are low pay/hours then it’s a minefield as gov will auto top up incomes, thus you can’t avoid being on one of the many traps, an you’d be amazed what earning even £50 extra over a year can cost you for the next in gov owed debt, yet be £50 under and its the extreme the other way.
Whole systems a disgrace, it punishes honesty with cruelty thanks too greed and ignorance, be it from the wealthy or from those who want more/cheaper which is in part all our faults.
We as a POPULATION need a serious rethink on values, yet somehow I can’t see it happening as world’s only about one thing, ME.
The answers are simple, the balls to do it on the other hand are small.
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Vellcommon to das 1000 year Reich, Were shall we put the “enterment camps”
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Benjie83:
edd1974:
the real problem I see it
the migrants come here there paid the minimum wage set by the government.they do the jobs the younger English born wont do.
if there all made to leave \cant come here the jobs will be there.
but can you see the English working any ware really for the minmum wage? I cant
they all want something for nothing and are probably better off on benefits.Near enough spot on, exception being that there ARE plenty of us natives who have quite literally scrubbed bogs, and worked 3 jobs between us to stay out of the benefits(although there are 1/2 you actually can’t refuse as such, parents will know… ) saved, payed and then been junked off by greedy brits/corporates who want only the cheapest labour, again thanks to consumer greed wanting it cheaper, which can’t be done here.
They use rules like "2yrs drive experience " as an example lol
Well that’s no problem if you ain’t from here lol, bit harder to do if your legit born an tagged as we all know[emoji849][emoji38]It’s simple, send back all the dross, thus black market labour is all but gone, and alot of the associated spin offs stop…
STOP ALL but essential migration.
Make it Compulsory we skill our own first, huge reduction in benefits paid out, plus more housing then becomes available as the cheap 12 to a house [zb] ends, hopefully the costs fall as supply will be well below demand then and folks can get on.And have a collective agreement as a nation to agree to pay a couple pence more each to get the skills up, and allow a wage that’s fair for the so called ‘low skilled jobs’ that do need to be done.
Now this will all depend on one crucial element, jobs to go into that allow a decent living to be achieved, as working 3 jobs is a very difficult thing to do, without wasting your time as tax man rapes you, basically 3 part time jobs =1 pays ya stamp/tax.
Gov then say its not paying so they top you up■■? Lol.If the jobs are low pay/hours then it’s a minefield as gov will auto top up incomes, thus you can’t avoid being on one of the many traps, an you’d be amazed what earning even £50 extra over a year can cost you for the next in gov owed debt, yet be £50 under and its the extreme the other way.
Whole systems a disgrace, it punishes honesty with cruelty thanks too greed and ignorance, be it from the wealthy or from those who want more/cheaper which is in part all our faults.
We as a POPULATION need a serious rethink on values, yet somehow I can’t see it happening as world’s only about one thing, ME.
The answers are simple, the balls to do it on the other hand are small.
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Vellcommon to das 1000 year Reich, Were shall we put the “enterment camps”
Dover. [emoji38]
I’ve plenty of European migrant mates, all whom work too.
But even they say this country’s FLOODED [emoji38][emoji38]
Bloke, don’t get me started on the 'native scum" who spend their days selling smack, sponging off claiming housing as single mothers, dla coz their manz got headaches yeah an all the other BS we all know exists.
FUNNY all these types seem to have the money for crack, £150 trainers, phones, cars, days out, ■■■■, 20 bottles of wine a day.
They ruin local areas, and cause nowt but misery to decent folk, and the tax payers by destroying resources that could be used to give our oaps, genuine folk help.
These folk infect the schools with their spawn, destroy local amenities, pollute the air with noise, looong list as we all know, so I’m gonna digress by using the word above, SCUM.
Trust me, I’d av em in the chamber FIRST. [emoji38]
It’s simply to me a case of population size, on a serious point with regards to the topic matter, we are rammed.
And a sense of shouldn’t we look to our own shores before others as it’d solve alot of our own issues pretty quick.
Besides why shouldn’t known sponges be made to get off their arse an work a job at the bottom, an do as the rest of us have an graft out of it, they may actually realise then the true meaning of why no one wants their kind about when they’ve gotta get up at 2am for work after 1hrs kip!!
As for the imported scum, well that’s very simple but sadly the ‘it’s not their fault’ brigade have made it impossible.
You need Genuine help, welcome to Britain on OUR terms,
Don’t like em, enjoy home life. [emoji106]
Come here to do good, regardless if you send what’s left home, long as you’ve chipped in legitimately for the services you use, happy days as who wouldn’t do all they could to help family/themselves if they could, but we should only be filling the genuine voids as long as those who come are happy with it that way then its all good to me. [emoji482]
But as a side note, if anyone here is going home, drives a truck, and wants to help a native in need then erm yes please I’d take your job [emoji38][emoji16]
Alternatively, if you were aiming at the other fella…
Apologies [emoji38]
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I think stopping home all day should not be an option ,loafing around all day is not fair to all those who get out of bed for work and do not return until late afternoon .they should do something …anything away from front room chair and tv for the day or no benefits
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I think stopping home all day should not be an option ,loafing around all day is not fair to all those who get out of bed for work and do not return until late afternoon .they should do something …anything away from front room chair and tv for the day or no benefits
these new rules and shipping back folk to the windward isles are all well and good but if i was Boris id watch out hes making enemies of very ordinary folk who face ruin and keep pushing one might well stick a knife in his guts .
Someone i knew ran roughshod over employees mostly migrants for 20 yrs then was found slumped dead in his office so many enemies could have been anybody not even a migrant
The simple answer is don’t use anything controlled by forigen types, stop eating kebabs,pizza, chicken, Curry, etc, don’t use Uber or just eat, and don’t go to corner shop… Only use business operated by Anglo Saxon types…
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The simple answer is don’t use anything controlled by forigen types, stop eating kebabs,pizza, chicken, Curry, etc, don’t use Uber or just eat, and don’t go to corner shop… Only use business operated by Anglo Saxon types…
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+1
ive always followed this principle all my adult life with the exception of a good curry or a kebab now and then.
unless theres absolutely no option,il go further to find someone pink rather than use your asian type shopkeeper.
on ebay,il keep looking for something till i find someone with a suitable username.
when i lived in scotland,the locals mostly refused to use the new shops that sprung up till the closed and moved though like everywhere else nowadays,they just eventually give in and start using them.
il sit and wait at airports to pick my preference for a driver,which is now virtually impossible at the major airports uk wide.
the uk is swamped nowadays,which is one reason i moved over here to timewarp country.
dieseldog999:
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The simple answer is don’t use anything controlled by forigen types, stop eating kebabs,pizza, chicken, Curry, etc, don’t use Uber or just eat, and don’t go to corner shop… Only use business operated by Anglo Saxon types…^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+1
ive always followed this principle all my adult life with the exception of a good curry or a kebab now and then.
unless theres absolutely no option,il go further to find someone pink rather than use your asian type shopkeeper.
on ebay,il keep looking for something till i find someone with a suitable username.
when i lived in scotland,the locals mostly refused to use the new shops that sprung up till the closed and moved though like everywhere else nowadays,they just eventually give in and start using them.
il sit and wait at airports to pick my preference for a driver,which is now virtually impossible at the major airports uk wide.
the uk is swamped nowadays,which is one reason i moved over here to timewarp country.
If you did all them things
Your would be forever waiting on a taxi
Forever waiting on a bus
Never go into 80% of shops
Change your walking patterns to avoid
No chance you would be better playing games like spot the white or pink man or woman
i dont use buses,the majority of shops over here still have indigenous faces at the tills also the petrol stations,i dont walk anywhere,il never dream of using uber, and my local taxi company are all pink except for 1 flipflop which ive told never to send him though not because he is an ee working here which im fine with,but because he is useless and always goes to the wrong postcode.
im usually heading to an airport so its not something i can tolerate.
to put things into perspective relating to taxis,the last time i came out of birmingham airport,all the taxi drivers ran away in terror as they thought i was a ghost!! 
Whats not to like about Boris, he gave us what 2 prime ministers before him failed to achieve. It took 3.5 years of brexit headaches and still we got nowhere. This was mainly to do with Labour, as they said at the beginning they would support a Brexit, then went against it ( hence why they lost the election ) along with all their braindead ideas that would cost £Billions !! So Boris had faith in the electorate, we had faith in Him and put him in power to deliver what we asked for…and he certainly did, and with a huge majority…well done that man. Now those complaining that their spend…spend…spend party didnt win the election, are possibly the ones on a low wage or minimum wage, or ltd and maybe zero hour contracts and believe unions are the answer to their prayers, as a collective they hopefully could sway their bosses to give a bit more, unions are finished, maggie saw to that, good job too, she also left a legacy that council tenants could get on the property ladder…and many of us did, no excuse for others not have taken advantage, was great for me, now i have 2 homes, 2 mercs, and a decent pension too, but all paid for with hard work and sacrifices.
Another reason we voted was Immigration, and now we have new rules coming into play…an immigrant must speak the language, must have a job to go to that pays a minimum £25 grand, of course there are exemptions such as Care workers, the NHS in general, and seasonal workers, there are many arguments about whether our own scroungers should be eligible, of course they should, but the benefit system pays more, so my plan would be to make them work or lose the benefits, what they earn whilst working, would be topped up to meet what they need, or had before, but would give them a work ethic, and self worth. Then we have those already here, who cannot or will not speak our language, yet fully understand the benefits to be had, ok some maybe female raising kids, so if the kids are old enough, put them to work as well, and pay for nursery/child care, but we have to show those on benefits that they dont come without cost, if you are ill, or made redundant or disabled, then there are or should be exemptions, but when i see my local herberts, drinking, smoking, drugged up and of an age where they should be working, then force them to work, or take away the benefits, and in some cases, sterilise em. Watched a prog this week where 3 generations are on benefits, and saying its not enough to live on yet get thousands per month to pay for their smoking and drinks, and of course debts, which aint our problem as tax payers. March on Boris, your doing a great job.
truckyboy:
Whats not to like about Boris, he gave us what 2 prime ministers before him failed to achieve. It took 3.5 years of brexit headaches and still we got nowhere. This was mainly to do with Labour, as they said at the beginning they would support a Brexit, then went against it ( hence why they lost the election ) along with all their braindead ideas that would cost £Billions !! So Boris had faith in the electorate, we had faith in Him and put him in power to deliver what we asked for…and he certainly did, and with a huge majority…well done that man. Now those complaining that their spend…spend…spend party didnt win the election, are possibly the ones on a low wage or minimum wage, or ltd and maybe zero hour contracts and believe unions are the answer to their prayers, as a collective they hopefully could sway their bosses to give a bit more, unions are finished, maggie saw to that, good job too, she also left a legacy that council tenants could get on the property ladder…and many of us did, no excuse for others not have taken advantage, was great for me, now i have 2 homes, 2 mercs, and a decent pension too, but all paid for with hard work and sacrifices.
Another reason we voted was Immigration, and now we have new rules coming into play…an immigrant must speak the language, must have a job to go to that pays a minimum £25 grand, of course there are exemptions such as Care workers, the NHS in general, and seasonal workers, there are many arguments about whether our own scroungers should be eligible, of course they should, but the benefit system pays more, so my plan would be to make them work or lose the benefits, what they earn whilst working, would be topped up to meet what they need, or had before, but would give them a work ethic, and self worth. Then we have those already here, who cannot or will not speak our language, yet fully understand the benefits to be had, ok some maybe female raising kids, so if the kids are old enough, put them to work as well, and pay for nursery/child care, but we have to show those on benefits that they dont come without cost, if you are ill, or made redundant or disabled, then there are or should be exemptions, but when i see my local herberts, drinking, smoking, drugged up and of an age where they should be working, then force them to work, or take away the benefits, and in some cases, sterilise em. Watched a prog this week where 3 generations are on benefits, and saying its not enough to live on yet get thousands per month to pay for their smoking and drinks, and of course debts, which aint our problem as tax payers. March on Boris, your doing a great job.
And your point being
ROG:
I cannot see how LGV drivers come under the skilled bit as they are not to A levelLGV is not listed as a special exemption
Good news for newbies me thinks - yes
Simples: Just parrot the notion that there is a 50,000 driver shortage - and they get in under the “required trades shortage” bit…