New lorry and advise wanted driving V8 (update)

Was given an R500 on friday as my new lorry and was told to go easy on the fuel so im just looking for some advise on getting the most out of a v8 with a manual. Today was my first drive of it and have done about 450kms with a mix of motorways, singles and london roads and averaged on the computer 8.93mpg with a fairly light load. Compared to the 480 i had ive had to work alot harder to get a reasonable return.

When i drive it i never go more than half way into the green and most of the time it pulls fine without ever reaching the green so between 500-1000rpm, is this the right or wrong way to use the engine?

Cheers. Simon

Congratulations!

Main thing is not to change down too early (or at all) on hills.

Compared to other trucks, they are thirsty when running part-loaded, but while the fuel figures on an ordinary truck of say 440 bhp get really bad as you get towards 44 tonnes, you will see little change in the V8’s figures. It’s actually designed to handle up to 60 tonnes, so 44 is just a walk in the park for it.

GasGas:
Congratulations!

Main thing is not to change down too early (or at all) on hills.

Compared to other trucks, they are thirsty when running part-loaded, but while the fuel figures on an ordinary truck of say 440 bhp get really bad as you get towards 44 tonnes, you will see little change in the V8’s figures. It’s actually designed to handle up to 60 tonnes, so 44 is just a walk in the park for it.

congratulations■■?

for being demoted to a smaller cab■■? :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

are you for real?

I don’t know what cab he had before…?

Some drivers like V8s and aren’t too bothered as to how tall their cab is.

I always used to smile at Truck magazine’s cab tests, where they seemed to be obsessed with taking their trousers on and off.

he had a topline before it, which looked a lot better than this new one, for one thing, it was fully colour coded, and didn’t have the crappy grey plastics :unamused:

GasGas:
I don’t know what cab he had before…?

Some drivers like V8s and aren’t too bothered as to how tall their cab is.

I always used to smile at Truck magazine’s cab tests, where they seemed to be obsessed with taking their trousers on and off.

Cheers, thats quite interestinng i can see how that would be the case actually. They told me the sister to my truck gets 9-10mpg but he’s very good, the last guy who had this was doing 4-5 so im told :open_mouth: .

I used to have an 08 topline, although i’ve dropped cab size ive got a newer lorry and one with tipping gear, this is much better suited to me as they can trust that it will be looked after and i can do farm work which this lorry is more geared to.

OK, I don’t think you’ll get near 10 mpg in London traffic in a V8. It may be that which has pulled your figures down.

The weight penalty from the tipping gear and bigger engine will inevitably hit hardest during stop start driving.

shuttlespanker:
he had a topline before it, which looked a lot better than this new one, for one thing, it was fully colour coded, and didn’t have the crappy grey plastics :unamused:

To be fair, there is a fair amount of space in a Highline…

Just try using plenty of gears in order to keep the engine speed within as narrow band as possible keeping it below 1,400 rpm but letting it lug below 1,000 rpm will probably use more fuel than keeping it above 1,000 rpm.

DAF95XF:

shuttlespanker:
he had a topline before it, which looked a lot better than this new one, for one thing, it was fully colour coded, and didn’t have the crappy grey plastics :unamused:

To be fair, there is a fair amount of space in a Highline…

…forgot to add thats if you fold down the top bunk but not as much storage like you get in a Volvo FH…

Turn the Air con off, that will improve fuel by at least 10%…

shuttlespanker:
he had a topline before it, which looked a lot better than this new one, for one thing, it was fully colour coded, and didn’t have the crappy grey plastics :unamused:

Good ol’ trucket, always someone to drag you down.

I actuallythink it looks really nice Mr Saamon. I think the Highline is a better looking more in proportion truck than the Topine myself and this one looks good. While since I drove a V8 and back then economy was the last thing on my mind so can’t help you there. As the Irish say well wear

8.9 is fine dude.

I was always told to let the revs fly and use all of the green band, getting it up to speed quickly and then over onto cruise ASAP, only changing up when you get to the end of the green band - however only accelerate VERY lightly and let the higher revs pull it with efficient ease. This was how I was told to drive the Merc Axor 2540 though, dunno if it will be different for your V8.

Basically I think that light footed high revs is better than heavy footing in a higher gear at 800, 900 RPM trying to pump more gas in to make up for lack of combustion and engine turnover. Im not very experienced though, so I will stand corrected if someone else knows more…

Carryfast:
Just try using plenty of gears in order to keep the engine speed within as narrow band as possible keeping it below 1,400 rpm but letting it lug below 1,000 rpm will probably use more fuel than keeping it above 1,000 rpm.

Ahh, see, didn’t notice this more experienced poster before my last post, so I guess I was told right then :slight_smile:

Actually, its always been same in my car tbh, a higher number of revs doesnt use more fuel. Pressing hard on the gas does. Letting the engine lug at low revs means you have to stomp on it more so…

Id say - rev its ■■■ off :smiley:

puballday:

Carryfast:
Just try using plenty of gears in order to keep the engine speed within as narrow band as possible keeping it below 1,400 rpm but letting it lug below 1,000 rpm will probably use more fuel than keeping it above 1,000 rpm.

Ahh, see, didn’t notice this more experienced poster before my last post, so I guess I was told right then :slight_smile:

Actually, its always been same in my car tbh, a higher number of revs doesnt use more fuel. Pressing hard on the gas does. Letting the engine lug at low revs means you have to stomp on it more so…

Id say - rev its ■■■ off :smiley:

When i drive it i never go more than half way into the green and most of the time it pulls fine without ever reaching the green so between 500-1000rpm

Hmm, well the figures you have arent bad tbh, but like I say, just try featherfooting it without gearing it up so often and lets hear how you get on with it. Nice truck btw :slight_smile:

Saaaaamon, nice to see a driver wanting to get the best fuel economy from his boss’s lorry :wink:

Ignore Carryfast, he talks from his sphincter, I toatlly disagree with his methods and like it or not, I used to be a road tester of lorries and I have been taught how to drive them properly by the best in the business. I also have a fair bit of experience driving V8 Scanias and I was paying the fuel bills too, so driving them for economy was very much in my best interests :sunglasses:

So, start off in 1hi with no throttle, as soon as you start to move and have fully engaged the clutch (pedal at the top) go into 3lo, then take the rpms up to almost the top of the green band with a reasonably light throttle, pretend you have a raw egg under your right foot and you don’t want to break it, then go up a full gear into 4lo, do the same to get you into 5lo and then 6lo and then change into 6hi at 1300rpm. That is the most efficient method of getting up to cruising speed :bulb:

Now, when you’re at cruising speed back off a couple of kms, not only will this save fuel, you will also have a much more relaxed drive. If you’re on the level, use cruise control, but as soon as you get into the hills, switch that off, it will cost you. It cannot see the road, so all it does is throw fuel at the engine in an attempt to get it back up to its set speed. Never ever use the resume function for those reasons :open_mouth:

If you drive properly and let momentum help you crest hills and gravity help you accelerate down them then you will save a lot of fuel. Anticipation is the key here, especially in traffic, try to let momentum do as much as possible and avoid using the throttle unless you have too, for example, in traffic keep moving at a steady pace, don’t try and stay 20/30/40/whatever feet from the vehicle in front, speeding up and slowing down, try and keep rolling at a constant speed all the time. If you’re approaching a roundabout, traffic lights or coming off a slip road, come off the throttle or cruise as soon as you reach the point where momentum will get you to the point where you have to stop. Any time you have your foot off the throttle you will be using any fuel at all. It may seem like you’ll never get anywhere, in theory at least, in practice however your journey times will not suffer and the driving is much more relaxed :bulb:

If the lorry has a turbo boost guage, use it, keep boost as low as you can. The same applies to climbing a big hill, it’s tempting to let that mighty V8 roar past everything, but for maximum fuel returns you want to be going up the hill in a completely different way. Instead of, for example, going up a long hill in 5lo at 1100rpms with your foot flat to the boards, instead go up it in 4hi with 3/4s throttle, by this I mean go up it so that you have a bit more throttle left and could go a little bit faster if you want to, this keeps turbo boost (& fuel use) down :bulb:

Finally when pulling up hills that require a few downshifts, don’t split the gears coming down the box, go down in full gears and go back up in half (split) gears, again, it saves fuel :wink:

Brilliant post,just drive it at half throttle when accelerating and don’t take the boost gauge over half way.

Yeah.
And whilst you’re doing all that,keep yer eye out for repmobiles dive bombing you at motorway exits,bikes,kids,kids on bikes,cops in tractor units with cameras,cops on bikes,other truck drivers that are soooo good at judging where the back of the trailer is, they don’t need to wait for a flash.
Then you may have a small bit of brain left to listen to the radio, or is that JUST ME?