switchlogic:
shuttlespanker:
he had a topline before it, which looked a lot better than this new one, for one thing, it was fully colour coded, and didn’t have the crappy grey plastics 
Good ol’ trucket, always someone to drag you down.
I actuallythink it looks really nice Mr Saamon. I think the Highline is a better looking more in proportion truck than the Topine myself and this one looks good. While since I drove a V8 and back then economy was the last thing on my mind so can’t help you there. As the Irish say well wear
Thank you, i think it looks good, after all this is a farm lorry so lots of paint plastics arent going to look very good with lots of scratches on them.
newmercman:
Saaaaamon, nice to see a driver wanting to get the best fuel economy from his boss’s lorry 
Thank you for that post, lots of useful advise, now ive just got to remember it all lol. We dont have a driver trainer, its not that kind of company, all my boss said is, “its got a gear stick and a proper engine”, aswell as to go easy on the fuel. Its one of his sons lorrys’ and he doesnt just let anyone drive them so dont want him to think he’s made a bad decision.
newmercman:
Saaaaamon, nice to see a driver wanting to get the best fuel economy from his boss’s lorry
Ignore Carryfast, he talks from his sphincter, I toatlly disagree with his methods and like it or not, I used to be a road tester of lorries and I have been taught how to drive them properly by the best in the business. I also have a fair bit of experience driving V8 Scanias and I was paying the fuel bills too, so driving them for economy was very much in my best interests 
So, start off in 1hi with no throttle, as soon as you start to move and have fully engaged the clutch (pedal at the top) go into 3lo, then take the rpms up to almost the top of the green band with a reasonably light throttle, pretend you have a raw egg under your right foot and you don’t want to break it, then go up a full gear into 4lo, do the same to get you into 5lo and then 6lo and then change into 6hi at 1300rpm. That is the most efficient method of getting up to cruising speed 
If you’d have read my post that’s more or less exactly what I told him. 
I’ve never even seen the rev counter on a V8 Scania but I have seen the torque curve on a 500 which is why I told him to keep the engine speed below 1,400 rpm ( and I’m betting that ‘almost the top of the green band’,as described by you,will reflect exactly that ) and don’t let the thing lug.Which therefore just leaves the question of where the bottom of the green band is and I’m betting it won’t be below 1,000 rpm.Which is an argument I’ve had with wheelnut enough times in that it’s often better to use higher rpm and less accelerator than to use less rpm with more.
By the way you also must have missed all the countless posts telling you that I used to road test big V8 ( and V16 ) engined trucks too.It’s jut that where you seem to have been doing it as a journalist I was doing it for a factory.Although admittedly getting good fuel consumption figures wasn’t the main priority in that case. 
The only thing you need with that particular Scania is a tanker full of diesel following you around!
Saaamon:
Thank you, i think it looks good, after all this is a farm lorry so lots of paint plastics arent going to look very good with lots of scratches on them.
.
tut tut - you shouldnt assume that because your going to be going on and off farms on a regular basis you will scratch it, i think you’ll surprise yourself how easy it is to use a truck in that enviroment and not damage it - especially as you clearly care about what you are doing mate 
nothing i can add regards getting good fuel, some good advice there, just trial whats been said and see if you can improve on what you’ve got so far, which is’nt bad to be fair. if you want to do a bit of something that helps the truck, keep your air filter blown out, not sure how easy that will be as i dont know where it is on that truck but a clean a filter makes quite a big differnce. 
sixaxles:
Saaamon:
Thank you, i think it looks good, after all this is a farm lorry so lots of paint plastics arent going to look very good with lots of scratches on them.
.
tut tut - you shouldnt assume that because your going to be going on and off farms on a regular basis you will scratch it, i think you’ll surprise yourself how easy it is to use a truck in that enviroment and not damage it - especially as you clearly care about what you are doing mate nothing i can add regards getting good fuel, some good advice there, just trial whats been said and see if you can improve on what you’ve got so far, which is’nt bad to be fair. if you want to do a bit of something that helps the truck, keep your air filter blown out, not sure how easy that will be as i dont know where it is on that truck but a clean a filter makes quite a big differnce.
Yeah i spose your right really, think i’d get worried about marking the paint if the lorry had lots of shiney paint, also im not really big into polishing, i do abit from time to time but dont fancy the whole thing so makes for easy cleaning.
May have to leave that to the workshop as i dont even know where it is on a scania, i try and get the fitters to teach me bits when im in there but they always tell me, “you dont wanna do this job” lol.
Deepinvet:
Turn the Air con off, that will improve fuel by at least 10%…
Wow, you don’t really believe that do you?
Ross.
What is the actual point of the orriginal question ? If he asked how to drive with a certain gear box in I could understand, but the actual engine size doesn’t really come into it, you drive by the feel and sound of the engine using the rev counter and that goes for any sized engine with any form , be it V or straight, it can be a 200 or a 700 bhp it is still a matter of driveing to optimise the most efficient use of the rev counter to achiev the pest pulling power and fuel ecconomy…
I gave up on the ecconomy thing when I see how little others care anyway, if they wat to waste fuel here by running engines 24/7 then I gave up
I don’t pay for the fuel anyway.
Pat Hasler:
What is the actual point of the orriginal question ? If he asked how to drive with a certain gear box in I could understand, but the actual engine size doesn’t really come into it
The reason why i mentioned the engine was because i was told V8s drive differently. Ive only ever had about an hour of training in this sort of thing and that was in an empty 460 daf manual but despite having that training at my the last company i was quite clearly told to keep the throttle well truly and planted.
Saaamon:
Was given an R500 on friday as my new lorry and was told to go easy on the fuel so im just looking for some advise on getting the most out of a v8 with a manual. Today was my first drive of it and have done about 450kms with a mix of motorways, singles and london roads and averaged on the computer 8.93mpg with a fairly light load. Compared to the 480 i had ive had to work alot harder to get a reasonable return.
When i drive it i never go more than half way into the green and most of the time it pulls fine without ever reaching the green so between 500-1000rpm, is this the right or wrong way to use the engine?
Cheers. Simon.
Nice Saaamon Nice. will have to try and remember that truck now mate
Where’s the previous driver gone then? Ask Mick how to drive it. He used to average nearly 11mpg with his old 580. The display never said that once i’d been to felixstowe and back with it though. I liked the sound of the v8 too much!
I came off a topline onto a highline and I miss the room of the topline, I would sacrifice a V8 for more room anytime…!
newmercman:
Carryfast:
If you’d have read my post that’s more or less exactly what I told him.
I’ve never even seen the rev counter on a V8 Scania but I have seen the torque curve on a 500 which is why I told him to keep the engine speed below 1,400 rpm ( and I’m betting that ‘almost the top of the green band’,as described by you,will reflect exactly that ) and don’t let the thing lug.Which therefore just leaves the question of where the bottom of the green band is and I’m betting it won’t be below 1,000 rpm.Which is an argument I’ve had with wheelnut enough times in that it’s often better to use higher rpm and less accelerator than to use less rpm with more.
By the way you also must have missed all the countless posts telling you that I used to road test big V8 ( and V16 ) engined trucks too.It’s jut that where you seem to have been doing it as a journalist I was doing it for a factory.Although admittedly getting good fuel consumption figures wasn’t the main priority in that case.
Yeah, but you use every gear your way and that’s wrong 
You are correct in one thing though, I have missed the bits in your posts about test driving…because I don’t bother reading past the first couple of lines (I’m just kidding…honest )
No I just said use plenty of gears,not particularly every gear ( unless it’s starting off from rest and needs to climb a good incline fully freighted ),because that’s probably what it’s going to take to keep it turning over at not less than 1,000 rpm but less than 1,400 rpm.Which is probably why Scania haven’t fitted it with a 6 speed box.
Well ive had the lorry for about 3 weeks now and got a phone call today to be told its been doing 11.1mpg … Cheers for all the advise, something must have sunk in.
Going on about R cab Highlines/Toplines, what’s the crack with these P cabbed Scanias with a high-liner roof? Surely that’s a waste of time/money, cuz they ain’t the biggest of cabs by any stretch…are they a new addition (passed one the other night) or have I just not been seeing them?
Actrosman:
Going on about R cab Highlines/Toplines, what’s the crack with these P cabbed Scanias with a high-liner roof? Surely that’s a waste of time/money, cuz they ain’t the biggest of cabs by any stretch…are they a new addition (passed one the other night) or have I just not been seeing them?
I think it’s in competition with the Volvo fm globetrotter, small cab big roof, same with the daf cf space cab, small cab, big roof
I would also believe that they would have some weight advantage over their bigger cousin’s as well…
