truckster5:
Know doubt there will be a few new drivers who think they know it all but in contrast: A experienced driver at ours had to ask if he needed to strap a load down.? Some think 15 + tonnes of concrete is ok to be ratcheted down by the rope hooks. Could go on…
Bit like the age old thing of older women are better in bed - Their only better if they’ve mastered the technique - Swings and roundabout innit
How are you supposed to secure 15 tons of concrete?
I’d use a 6m3 drum on the back of a 6wheeled rigid and rotate it.
truckster5:
Know doubt there will be a few new drivers who think they know it all but in contrast: A experienced driver at ours had to ask if he needed to strap a load down.? Some think 15 + tonnes of concrete is ok to be ratcheted down by the rope hooks. Could go on…
Bit like the age old thing of older women are better in bed - Their only better if they’ve mastered the technique - Swings and roundabout innit
How are you supposed to secure 15 tons of concrete?
No wonder they brought in the CPC
Never having had to secure 15 tons of concrete myself, I am sure I would be asking the same questions if I had to.
Seems like you must have came out of the womb already being a driving God.
steelgoon:
Never having had to secure 15 tons of concrete myself, I am sure I would be asking the same questions if I had to.
Seems like you must have came out of the womb already being a driving God.
Common sense would surely come into it. If your boss told you to pick up a flatbed with 15 tonnes of concrete would you honestly be asking where to hook the straps to?
Never knew the lad had only passed his test 2 weeks earlier. Assumed he was being sarcastic with the questioning rather than it being a genuine question.
Drivers mate is a great idea, I totally agree in partnerships for the benefit of both. I am currently training for my C+E, CPC and etc. The driving test is purely based on road safety ie: can you handle a massive lorry safely and reverse it to box … End of. Emergency stop is now gone. The CPC modules 2 and 4 are truly remarkable and force you to learn, search, browse or ask questions. Unfortunately the waiting list in the south west is 8-10 weeks. How to secure concrete is covered in both modules. The bottom line is "there is no shame in asking for the sake of safety and company reputation "
Well I’m ex forces, albeit not army. I did the same test on every vehicle as civvy street, no special treatment for us. I also had loads of experience when I left and I need noone to tell me how to wipe my arse, I can also think for myself. However I did work at one firm where they employed an ex army lad…he was more interested in how the tele worked then learning the job…its like everything, the old school have the skills, knowledge and experience. The lads today dont…
Radar19:
We’ll I’m learning, it only took me 3 shunts to get on a bay at Sainsbury’s Dartford instead my usual 6-7.
Concentrate on the approach more, then if you are
not lined up right you will start to see were you went wrong.
Sod everybody else in the yard do it a walking pace and get
it on the bay first time,they soon lose interest.
Just to add if you want to get out and have a look then do,
but walk don’t run, don’t be wrestling to get your hi viz,
so that when you get down the back you can pretend to mess
with the air suspension whilst you check out just how close you
are to that big bloke eating a bowl of cornflakes in his cab.
Asking for advice? Wow, I’ve asked for some in my time - most times I got it but sometimes I got jeered and cajoled.
My own view is that the standard of new drivers (i.e. just passed their test) is poor in this country because of the way we are taught.
In England we are not taught how to drive a truck or to deal with loads/hitching up/unhitching.
We are taught to pass a test.
I passed my class 1 in 1996 and I can honestly say that I had never even seen a trailer being hitched/unhitched nor ever seen a load strapped/secured. I knew nothing at all - but I had a class 1 licence.
It’s quite scary on that first day. Actually mine was sickening.
So yes, I asked for advice and damned glad I was to receive it too.
oatcake1967:
Just to add if you want to get out and have a look then do,
but walk don’t run, don’t be wrestling to get your hi viz,
so that when you get down the back you can pretend to mess
with the air suspension whilst you check out just how close you
are to that big bloke eating a bowl of cornflakes in his cab.
I lost count of how many times I did just that. Opening barn doors is another legit reason.
Mike-C:
I find ex Army new drivers a PITA. Generally have every cert under the sun as some sort of leaving package, and no idea !
At least everything gets polished
You’re kidding. We’ve got one at our place, all the certs, but not a clue.
Nobody wants to take a wagon out after he’s been on it. Will possibly have some fresh damage on it, definitely won’t have any fuel or adblue in it. Will be a tip inside, dropped food and door pockets full of litter, but worst of all are the (as we’ve now named them) “the Kev Rings of Phlegm” where he attaches his satnav (and in a different place every day) complete with bits of food in them.
He had my motor 3 times. First time he just basically detached and mucked about with all my stuff inside, broke a phone lead, busted the air vents and emptied out 2 £4 air fresheners in a day.
Next time he smacked up the front near side corner, denied all knowledge of it, even suggested I’d done it, then about 3 weeks later thought it was funny to tell one of the other lads that he’d driven into a pile of shingle while not looking where he was going.
When I showed him the damage in person, he told me that it was “a bit of nothing” I told him he wouldn’t say that if it was on his car, to which he replied “you don’t actually own it!”
He got put on it again a week later, as he’d refused to take an 18 tonner into London (apparently Class 1 driver) and smacked up the rear off side. Must have driven over a boulder he’d not seen or something. Really surprised he didn’t rip the tail lift off.
He’d been there 4 months before he knew where we kept the Adblue tank, and now at nearly 8 months, has never used the jet wash.
But we’ve only got 1 class 2 driver per vehicle at the moment, so he’s getting away with murder.
If you are in the Stoke area as I think you are, you need to get used to that kind of driver. There are loads around who have done the agency/Co-Op when it was at Talke/New Look/Bargain Booze/Browns circuit and have the kind of attitude you describe. You can usually tell them a mile off and I always found it a good idea to steer well clear and have nothing to do with them.
Olog Hai:
If you are in the Stoke area as I think you are, you need to get used to that kind of driver. There are loads around who have done the agency/Co-Op when it was at Talke/New Look/Bargain Booze/Browns circuit and have the kind of attitude you describe. You can usually tell them a mile off and I always found it a good idea to steer well clear and have nothing to do with them.
He’s the only number that’s blocked in my phone.
He reckons he’s done work for Culina and Stobrats too.
Funny how he asked another one of the Class 1 drivers (the guy he told about the damage to my motor) for some tips on driving a loaded vehicle.
Driving around for those 2 empty was he?
Co-op at Talke used to have some great lads. Knew quite a lot of them, I’m talking 80’s and 90’s though.
At a Bristol depot there’s a “self appointed Super driver” who apperently decides if an agency chap is rubbish …last week superman reversed & knocked a 8’ high 40’ long brick wall over…hasn’t been jawing in the yard lately ■■
Nove, what you said about ex military, similar was said about plant operators who were ex forces. The firms around here dodged them, and auctions selling ex military plant.
- Swings and roundabout innit
