Left hand down!:
I find the complete opposite to be honest. It’s usually the “I’ve been driving 40 years, there’s nothing you can tell me about this job” type who rush about like idiots carving the job up, foot to the floor everywhere because they reckon they know best.
nope they’ll be on final written warnings for going too slow, and HR would of been tipped off from little adolf straight out if uni who thinks they can control a 44 tonne ARTIC from the keyboard! if they want to play games, they should of stuck to space invaders with < and > and spacebar for fire at home in their bedroom! unfortunately once these screwdrivers get out of the yard gate, it’s " I’M THE BOSS, no ones telling me what to do! " and the the vicious circle carries on! by all means race around for minimum wage BUT please don’t whinge when < insert any foreigners here > take your job and YOUR GAFFERS IN HIS RANGE ROVER/ jaguar/ Bentley/ rolls Royce or Ferrari after YOU’VE PAID FOR IT! that is all
BIG AW:
Cue Jonnytruckfestival ■■?
He as been at it now nearly a whole week
He’ll make a bloody good driver l reckon, always enthusiastic never to scared to ask if he doesn’t know something wish there were more around like him rather then the usual depressive know alls I often encounter fair play to the lad I hope he does Well for himself.
Being enthusiastic is one thing talking the job up like he does sometimes comes across like hes an old hand makes him look a prick, when the honeymoons over and he gets a few bad days he will sing a diffrent tune ,we,ve all had it rough at times but lets be honest all the tackle is now quite good now compared to 20 or so years ago.
When and if he does pass his class 1 or ABC whatever and he as had a few days playing in the snow and ice that will see if he is as greeneyed as he is now, dont get me wrong he seems a nice enough lad but some lads set themselves up for a fall.
Im a newbie. Only been doing this 4 months. I will listen and ask for advice. Some old ■■■■■■■ i mean old hands seem to think i should know everything. Asked for help reversing onto a bay on my blindside and was politely told to just get it done as everyone else manages fine! Yeah cheers mate, even better when the ■■■■■■ got the phone out and videod it. That was a confidence wrecker
Mike-C:
I find ex Army new drivers a PITA. Generally have every cert under the sun as some sort of leaving package, and no idea !
Depends what the guys do in the army mate.
The lads in logs and MTs who have been driving for years generally have a lot of experience and drive in [zb].
Then you get infantry lads and few other cap badges do there HGV as they need it to drive the armoured vehicles on operations. They will have very little experience driving
Then lads with nothing doing it on there resettlement package before they get out.
There is a hole range of driving in the forces.
Guarantee 95% of ex soldiers will have better work ethic than most civi drivers.
Complete crap. Most ex army I know are complete imbeciles who can’t think for themselves. They need sergeant major to demonstrate how to wipe their own arse each day. Just look at the majority of Stobart drivers. They just love the ex army brigade.
Left hand down!:
I find the complete opposite to be honest. It’s usually the “I’ve been driving 40 years, there’s nothing you can tell me about this job” type who rush about like idiots carving the job up, foot to the floor everywhere because they reckon they know best.
Sadly I’ve got to agree with this. Every time I’ve “suggested” to a new guy that he may want to do something differently to how he’s doing it they invariably thank me, try it and agree it’s a better way, whereas Mr beendoingitsincedayone thinks that his way is the only way.
Unusual to find this level of agreement on this site, but I’m with you guys. I find the vast majority of newbies are keen to learn and not afraid to ask
Own Account Driver:
Have to say am a bit underwhelmed by the ex-army. I know it’s always been a big source of new drivers to the industry.
I have my suspicions they’re a bit free with handing out the test passes where they’re concerned.
Yeah the tests are fairly easy compared with civy street.
But they need so many C licence holders per tour to afghan and not just in logistics.
Every single armoured patrol vehicle on operations needs a c licence holder now.
So that means churning thousands and thousands of licences extra each year.
A lot of the licences are done in house one.
I done my B cat theory and prac in house in training wing.
Done theory and C and C+E in house.
Know doubt there will be a few new drivers who think they know it all but in contrast: A experienced driver at ours had to ask if he needed to strap a load down.? Some think 15 + tonnes of concrete is ok to be ratcheted down by the rope hooks. Could go on…
Bit like the age old thing of older women are better in bed - Their only better if they’ve mastered the technique - Swings and roundabout innit
truckster5:
Know doubt there will be a few new drivers who think they know it all but in contrast: A experienced driver at ours had to ask if he needed to strap a load down.? Some think 15 + tonnes of concrete is ok to be ratcheted down by the rope hooks. Could go on…
Bit like the age old thing of older women are better in bed - Their only better if they’ve mastered the technique - Swings and roundabout innit
Aye, age has nowt to do with it believe me. It’s if you’re open to learning that counts. Know it all’s will not learn from anyone.
truckster5:
Know doubt there will be a few new drivers who think they know it all but in contrast: A experienced driver at ours had to ask if he needed to strap a load down.? Some think 15 + tonnes of concrete is ok to be ratcheted down by the rope hooks. Could go on…
Bit like the age old thing of older women are better in bed - Their only better if they’ve mastered the technique - Swings and roundabout innit
How are you supposed to secure 15 tons of concrete?
truckster5:
Know doubt there will be a few new drivers who think they know it all but in contrast: A experienced driver at ours had to ask if he needed to strap a load down.? Some think 15 + tonnes of concrete is ok to be ratcheted down by the rope hooks. Could go on…
Bit like the age old thing of older women are better in bed - Their only better if they’ve mastered the technique - Swings and roundabout innit
How are you supposed to secure 15 tons of concrete?
Straps fastened to the chassis, or reinforced side raves if you have them
truckster5:
Know doubt there will be a few new drivers who think they know it all but in contrast: A experienced driver at ours had to ask if he needed to strap a load down.? Some think 15 + tonnes of concrete is ok to be ratcheted down by the rope hooks. Could go on…
Bit like the age old thing of older women are better in bed - Their only better if they’ve mastered the technique - Swings and roundabout innit
How are you supposed to secure 15 tons of concrete?
Straps fastened to the chassis, or reinforced side raves if you have them
truckster5:
Know doubt there will be a few new drivers who think they know it all but in contrast: A experienced driver at ours had to ask if he needed to strap a load down.? Some think 15 + tonnes of concrete is ok to be ratcheted down by the rope hooks. Could go on…
Bit like the age old thing of older women are better in bed - Their only better if they’ve mastered the technique - Swings and roundabout innit
How are you supposed to secure 15 tons of concrete?
Straps fastened to the chassis, or reinforced side raves if you have them
What gets me is the “you aren’t a real driver, you’ve never roped and sheeted, can’t do an exact dolly knot, crank a starting handle, drive a 150bhp Gardner engined lorry up Shap (not the motorway) during the war, during the war…” bs that older drivers preach about. I had this sort of rose tinted, ration book view hurled my way a few years ago (and you still read it on here).
Are new train drivers inferior because they’ve not fired a Castle between London and Bristol?
I don’t like to class myself as either old hand or newbie as I’ve been on hgvs for just over 13 years, but when i started i took on board any advice given to me, irrespective of that persons age. Although prior to hgv driving i was a recovery driver for over a year so already knew a little. I do notice that the ones who tear around alot are drivers of the older generation whereas the newbies tend to take their time, I know i did after parting with alot to money for the licence, i was in no hurry to lose it. My line of work means i dont get told “your doing that wrong, you need to do it this way!!”. But thats not to say ive had tho odd old timer customer telling me HE knows the rite way and im doing my job wrong and that i dont know what im on about, even tho ive been doing the same job for 13+ years and been on numerous courses. But hey, what do i know? Im just a 36 yeay old kid who is good at his job. But that still doesnt matter to the old boy who’s done a bit of tanker work and therefore thinks he knows ever chemical and its dangers under the sun… gets my back up no end, but ive learnt to walk away.
truckster5:
Know doubt there will be a few new drivers who think they know it all but in contrast: A experienced driver at ours had to ask if he needed to strap a load down.? Some think 15 + tonnes of concrete is ok to be ratcheted down by the rope hooks. Could go on…
Bit like the age old thing of older women are better in bed - Their only better if they’ve mastered the technique - Swings and roundabout innit
How are you supposed to secure 15 tons of concrete?
truckster5:
Know doubt there will be a few new drivers who think they know it all but in contrast: A experienced driver at ours had to ask if he needed to strap a load down.? Some think 15 + tonnes of concrete is ok to be ratcheted down by the rope hooks. Could go on…
Bit like the age old thing of older women are better in bed - Their only better if they’ve mastered the technique - Swings and roundabout innit
How are you supposed to secure 15 tons of concrete?
No wonder they brought in the CPC
The kid passed his test 2 weeks ago Truckster, I imagine he’s not yet had reason to attempt to secure 15 tonne of concrete yet. You may have a point re DCPC but given that there’s a multiple page thread about rubbish taught wrongly by DCPC trainers it’s quite possible that Radar could be told that strands of spaghetti would be ideal for the job!
So instead he did what we’ve done for years, ask others.
they’ll be on final written warnings for going too slow, 
if they want to play games, they should of stuck to space invaders with < and > and spacebar for fire at home in their bedroom! 
unfortunately once these screwdrivers get out of the yard gate, it’s " I’M THE BOSS, no ones telling me what to do! 
" and the the vicious circle carries on! 
by all means race around for minimum wage BUT please don’t whinge when < insert any foreigners here > take your job and YOUR GAFFERS IN HIS RANGE ROVER/ jaguar/ Bentley/ rolls Royce or Ferrari after YOU’VE PAID FOR IT! 
that is all 
