You can count me in for a meeting. Happy to offer my training centre as a venue if that is geographically convenient for the majority. Equally happy to travel anywhere.
Pete 
Would the DVSA be prepared to either release a list of every trainer on the old register with email addresses or write to everyone informing them of such a meeting. Then perhaps each test centre could provide a list of all training providers or perhaps the DVSA could provide a list from the trainer booking system. Also Riikkiās magazine group could possibly run a short article to let anyone else interested know.
LGVTrainer:
Would the DVSA be prepared to either release a list of every trainer on the old register with email addresses or write to everyone informing them of such a meeting. Then perhaps each test centre could provide a list of all training providers or perhaps the DVSA could provide a list from the trainer booking system. Also Riikkiās magazine group could possibly run a short article to let anyone else interested know.
I think something that also needs addressing is whether the RTITB, seeing as they are now the DVSA choice, would be willing to attend/or even discuss the possibility of changes.
Itās important that all involved work together to get the best solution otherwise we end up with a conflict due to the commercial interest.
Iām certainly interested in meeting up with other trainers to discuss if this can be taken forward.
John
Rikki-UK:
I I would be willing to chair such a meetingā¦ with a couple of provisoās
At last some constructive communication can be sought. Perhaps another third party could be sourced as well to recognise/ endorse or recommend etc the industry maybe a big commercial organisation that is respected throughout road haulage
Letās be honest as it stands now this register is the DVSA lesser option which has little merit this alone isnāt going to help get bums on seats.
I await my invite
Paul
ROG:
elmet training:
Is their a question bank available for the theory questions regarding revision material?Paul
I would imagine it is the same as the DVSA bank such as we can get free from online sites
Can I just say having recently passed my DVSA LGV Instructor Theory test/Hazard Perception test that there is an urgent need for a thorough re-vamp of the question bank - whoever is now in control.
Whilst the legislative questions have been updated (speed limits, Driversā Hours etc.) some of the other questions are extremely dated, for instance: quite a few questions still relate to BLUE airlines on tractor units & trailers - I havenāt seen a blue airline since 1986!!! Also many tachograph questions relate to analogue charts whereas thereās zero mention of Digital Tachographs - surely these should be covered.
As for continuing with my quest to become an Approved LGV Instructor by doing the driving assessment & the Instructional test - I think I will pause and see what develops with RTITB and the other āNationalā Register - Iām in no rush - thank God!!
Daz1970:
ROG:
elmet training:
Is their a question bank available for the theory questions regarding revision material?Paul
I would imagine it is the same as the DVSA bank such as we can get free from online sites
Can I just say having recently passed my DVSA LGV Instructor Theory test/Hazard Perception test that there is an urgent need for a thorough re-vamp of the question bank - whoever is now in control.
Whilst the legislative questions have been updated (speed limits, Driversā Hours etc.) some of the other questions are extremely dated, for instance: quite a few questions still relate to BLUE airlines on tractor units & trailers - I havenāt seen a blue airline since 1986!!! Also many tachograph questions relate to analogue charts whereas thereās zero mention of Digital Tachographs - surely these should be covered.As for continuing with my quest to become an Approved LGV Instructor by doing the driving assessment & the Instructional test - I think I will pause and see what develops with RTITB and the other āNationalā Register - Iām in no rush - thank God!!
I mentioned this in a previous post. I have question bank from the old register and was going to do it a few years ago, I didnāt bother for the reason you mention.
Paul
I have the current DVSA question bank. Iām going to start going through it, updating and correctly as necessary during next few days. I see no point in using something that is out of date - though itās a good foundation to start from. Also need to change it to avoid any copyright issues - just in case!
For me there only needs to be 1 recognised scheme.
Currently I will be backing the rtitb.
I see the rtitb being the lesser of 2 evils. They are going to be the most unbiased organisation to administer the scheme and act fairly for all parties.
A consortium of trainers will never work as it never has in the past. There will be to many members fighting for power to get anything agreed. Some will work harder than others and some will become disillusioned.
I would encourage all trainers to back the rtitb concept and move that model forward. I would also encourage the rtitb to hold an urgent consultation with the trainerās to get their opinions as this whole process seems a little dictatorial and they should desperately be trying to get the industry to buy into the concept
Hereās my two penneth! A need is usually born from necessity and being on the register is not necessary. For whatever reason maybe not enough new HGV drivers are killing people or government worried about driver numbers and donāt want to increase costs(Iām guessing) but how many of you have had pupils say"I decided to choose you because of your DVSA badge". The truth is it does not matter and it would be great if it did for the good of the industry but it does not matter, so by keep flogging it is pointless unless it becomes compulsory and it probably wonāt, so as annoying as it for all people who care and are passionate about their work it DOES NOT MATTER. My view either campaign for it to be compulsory like cars and bikes or unfortunately you wasting time and effort.
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Looks like we have another ātumbleweedā moment here.
Such a shame as no more than a couple of trainers expressed an interest- mind you not really a surprise. Too many worrying about how much work they might lose and being accountable to others, once more proving the industry will stay divided for all the wrong reasons.
Have a good new year all 
Iām happy to talk. Iām not aware of a minimum number requirement and neither do I know what response Rikki has received. It all depends what you think the objectives are as to whether a handful of folks is enough.
I have many ideas, some of which would only work with many trainers on board, others that will work with just a few.
But if no-one wants to talk, so be it. Yet another wasted opportunity.
Pete
jesus Christ is like trying to herd cats
look guys its simpleā¦ no-one gives a ā ā ā ā about the DVSA register it means nothing to a trainee.
if you want to achieve something and force out the brokers , then you have to put aside your commercial interests to an extent and work together .
all I see is from all is backbiting
Your about to screw your own industry because you wont unite
I said outsiders would come in and start to lay down the law, the RTITB involvement is only the start, Hello wake up and see whats going to happen
either get organised now or bend over and take whats coming to you
You have one last chanceā¦
organise a time and place to talk about creating a professional body- I will chair it as a neutral person and set the agenda
ORR you can all just go on as you are- good luck with that
Can you tell us what response there has been Rikki?
Pete
Rikki-UK:
jesus Christ is like trying to herd catslook guys its simpleā¦ no-one gives a [zb] about the DVSA register it means nothing to a trainee.
if you want to achieve something and force out the brokers , then you have to put aside your commercial interests to an extent and work together .
all I see is from all is backbiting
Your about to screw your own industry because you wont unite
I said outsiders would come in and start to lay down the law, the RTITB involvement is only the start, Hello wake up and see whats going to happen
either get organised now or bend over and take whats coming to you
You have one last chanceā¦
organise a time and place to talk about creating a professional body- I will chair it as a neutral person and set the agenda
ORR you can all just go on as you are- good luck with that
Thatās what Iāve been saying on this forum all along, however my comments are falling on deaf ears especially regarding the brokers. I wonder why?
Iām willing to talk once my leg will let me drive again but I do feel the purpose of the register in question is not been portrayed in the right direction for the good of the industry but for commercial gain of those trying to promote it.
Peter seems to ignore my views and proposals not sure why but i have my suspicions.
Itās simple āRID THE BROKERS AND THE INDUSTRY WILL LOOK AFTER ITS SELFā
Paul
but for commercial gain of those trying to promote it.
Peter seems to ignore my views and proposals not sure why but i have my suspicions.
Itās simple āRID THE BROKERS AND THE INDUSTRY WILL LOOK AFTER ITS SELFā
Paul. You make some interesting points but Iād like you to explain what you mean rather than just banding words about that could be misconstrued.
Eg. Could you please tell me where the ācommercial gainā is in the register? Iām not aware of any, quite the reverse. But Iām willing to listen so I can take advantage of your superior knowledge on the matter.
As for ignoring your view and proposals, simply not true. The hazard perception test has GONE. Thereās flexibility in the way the tests can be taken. As far as Iām concerned, every reasonable objection you had to joining the register (or any register) has been addressed but you are still avoiding the opportunity to prove your ability.
āSuspicionsā. Iām baffled.
As for āRID THE BROKERS AND THE INDUSTRY WILL LOOK AFTER ITS SELFā you are a mile off the mark in my opinion. Now if we were trying to rid the industry of crooked business practice and poor quality training, Iād be with you. But why the vendetta against brokers? A properly run brokerage, providing the advertised service in a timely manner gives me no problem. If their advertising is misleading, thatās clearly wrong and should be sorted. If they habitually go broke and end up in jail, thatās not good for the industry. But if Joe Public chooses to use a broker, for whatever reason, thatās their concern. And, as I said, if the broker is doing their job properly, whereās the issue?
Having said all that, I donāt work with brokers, I am not a broker and I am not associated in any way with any broker. But thatās my choice.
The anti ā broker campaign was extremely valid when their websites were incredibly misleading and when their business conduct was bordering on criminal. But there is clear evidence that some have cleaned up their act. Certainly there are cases where more could be done to improve their advertising, but the same applies to many trainers.
I would rather folks spent their time examining the conduct of trainers who are actually doing the job and bringing cases where substandard training and conduct can be shown.
But, for as long as trainers donāt wish to join together in any way to achieve anything, nothing much is likely to change. You, and other respected trainers, have been given the opportunity to register with a group of like-minded trainers who already have the ear of DVSA. This is just a start. But if you want to stay on the outside, thatās your choice. But itās a pity.
Pete
Peter Smythe:
Paul. You make some interesting points but Iād like you to explain what you mean rather than just banding words about that could be misconstrued.Eg. Could you please tell me where the ācommercial gainā is in the register? Iām not aware of any, quite the reverse. But Iām willing to listen so I can take advantage of your superior knowledge on the matter.
As for ignoring your view and proposals, simply not true. The hazard perception test has GONE. Thereās flexibility in the way the tests can be taken. As far as Iām concerned, every reasonable objection you had to joining the register (or any register) has been addressed but you are still avoiding the opportunity to prove your ability.
āSuspicionsā. Iām baffled.
Ouch, Iām starting to understand why some of your posts attract such emotive responses from a number of regular forum users.
Peter I canāt believe you are defending brokers who donāt have their own product to sell but rely on selling someone elseās and taking a cut so charging the customer more than if they go direct. Itās a bit different to a insurance broker!
Apart from that their selling tequniques leave a lot to be desired pretending to be a national training provider and promising jobs at the end of training which is total ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā . They tell ā ā ā ā ā ā ā lies to get a payment!!
If you want to publicly support this type of deceit what chance have you got of the register being supported by good honest trainers?
Paul
Apart from the brokers, how come we rarely hear about bad training schools 
My yhought is that if there were bad ones we would have had posts on here about them warning others off
OK, we have had posts about a few rogue bad instructors but not schools
ROG:
Apart from the brokers, how come we rarely hear about bad training schoolsMy yhought is that if there were bad ones we would have had posts on here about them warning others off
OK, we have had posts about a few rogue bad instructors but not schools
IMO the brokers work with the bad ones so tend to get hidden behind the broker.
Paul
Ps just found this link nolgvbrokers.co.uk/money-bac ā¦ g-company/ ā ā
Paul. I donāt disagree with you ā¦
Peter Smythe:
Certainly there are cases where more could be done to improve their advertising
Pete