Anyone know the weather for tonight ?
paul@midway:
Anyone know the weather for tonight ?
Overcast with the chance of the occasional shower. Lows at 8C and light south-westerly winds.
paul@midway:
Anyone know the weather for tonight ?
There’s a storm blowing in from the East!!
jammymutt:
I hate Islam and all it stands for all that they preach and all that they hate including WHITE SKIN and THEY WHO EAT HOOFED CLAW is it ok for them to hate someone who is NOT a nation but is a belief that the dont agree with…
If you read this post carefully he is actually saying that he hates all that they hate 
This is just one case of inaccurate information being posted. You only have to do a google search for “white muslims” to see this. Some people a few bricks short of a full load could read and believe it. Can you post evidence to support this statement 
I’ll probably get called a labour voter and Guardian reader now.
Rob k:
WARNING : LABOUR VOTER & DO-GOODER ALERT !
Oh look, they’ve already paid a visit 
Rob K:
What makes me laugh is him thinking that TN management (and everyone else) actually cares !!! PMSL.
Could the TN management post here to verify this please.
The moderation is truly pathetic. Even the posting of inaccurate information is “supposedly” against the rules.
Email the sponsors and show them what they get for their money 
Thanks for the weather reports .
Much appreciated .
Saxon786:
Rob K:
What makes me laugh is him thinking that TN management (and everyone else) actually cares !!! PMSL.Could the TN management post here to verify this please.
The moderation is truly pathetic. Even the posting of inaccurate information is “supposedly” against the rules.
Email the sponsors and show them what they get for their money
It’s time for the old favourite again :
Saxon786:
The moderation is truly pathetic. Even the posting of inaccurate information is “supposedly” against the rules.Email the sponsors and show them what they get for their money
Which post needs moderating?? This same conversation goes on in every pub,workplace,club etc across the country. Mind you i can see that you’re in Leicster so thats why you mightent of heard much.
Mike-C:
Which post needs moderating?? This same conversation goes on in every pub,workplace,club etc across the country. Mind you i can see that you’re in Leicster so thats why you mightent of heard much.
Oh I’ve heard them Mike and I won’t even tell you which side I swing as you may keel over in shock.
As a driver I want to come home after a hard days work, put my feet up and wind down with a cup o’tea and read about trucking tales and you can include the Pole threads in that. There are some very good posters on here and I’m not too stubborn to include yourself in that list.
I’m all up for reading valid debate but these things have had a bad habit recently of quickly disintegrating into a pile of hate and venom time and time again usually against Islam so much so that I think I’ve logged onto Stormfront by accident.
It gets bloody boring.
ps. I clearly pointed out a post of inaccurate information that says Islam hates whites. Completely untrue. It is a religion that transcends the colour of your skin.
I clearly pointed out a post of inaccurate information that says Islam hates whites. Completely untrue. It is a religion that transcends the colour of your skin.
i must agree here,sorry all,they dont give a crap who they blow up,so they cant be called racist…
Saxon786:
ps. I clearly pointed out a post of inaccurate information that says Islam hates whites. Completely untrue. It is a religion that transcends the colour of your skin.
If i say i want to kill all middle easterners for what they did on 11th sept and 7th june you would say thats racist and islamophobic, yet it is allright for these middle easterners to say they want to kill westerners, which isnt racist?
There is little racism in this country. The problem is that the left accepts no criticism of anyone who hasnt been born in this country. Accuse the Polish of dragging down our wage, racist. Accuse an Arab of being backwards because of the way they treat women, racist. Support your national team, racist. Sujest that someone living in this country should be able to speak english, racist, it goes on and on.
This is an incredibly dangerous situation because if people cant express their views pressure will build up untill there are riots or we have BNP MPs. 
daneinter:
The real proof of the pudding is that we must base our attitudes towards people based on their behaviour. if they lie , cheat and do wrong then it matters not what their origin. They deserve all they get wether English , eastern european or no matter what their race. The final question is to ask if the men and women who died to defend freedom and democracy died in vain and that is the largest question of all
Yes but if their are foreign why do we let them stay in this country when they have done wrong?
The Defence of Freedom also includes the freedom of speech, so even if the racists spout their poisons Id sooner guarantee freedom of speech for them than deny it and risk future governments to remove other freedoms under the same argument about whatever is politically unacceptable in the future.
It has already started to creep further with those scottish firefighters, having to go to ‘diversity training’
Very interesting thread.
I received this by email this morning and I believe it says it all.
THREE CHEERS FOR AUSTRALIA
I wish the leaders of our country would take a stand like Australia.
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.
Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament.
“If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you,” he said on national television.
“I’d be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false. If you can’t agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that’s a better option,” said Costello.
Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country.
Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should “clear off”. “Basically, people who don’t want to be Australians, and they don’t want to live by Australian values and
understand them, well then they can basically clear off,” he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian
Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation’s mosques.
UK, AMERICA and Canada… ARE YOU LISTENING?
Quote:
IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.
However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the “politically correct” crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia.
However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here,
need to understand. This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle.
This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, Learn the language!
Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push but a fact because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, Because God is part of our culture.
We will accept your beliefs and will not question why, all we ask is that you accept ours and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.
If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don’t like " A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.
We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don’t care how you did things where you came from. By all means keep your culture but
do not force it on others.
This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, “THE RIGHT TO LEAVE”.
If you aren’t happy here then LEAVE. We didn’t force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.
I think this says it all and our government should wake up to the resentment it is building in it’s own people. I never considered myself to be racist in any way - but the way the government is behaving is MAKING me that way.
problem is where do you draw the line? should we stop all foreign nationals working or living in britain? if so what about the thousands of brits that emigrate or simply go abroad to work every year? do they all have to come home?
muslims, do we ban the religion from being practised or just the radicals? some would say by following such a religion, they are all radicals because some of the koran preaches acts that are criminal in this and any other country of the western world BUT what about those born on british soil? they are as british as anyone else, lets face it, no one, unless they have a family tree that dates back hundreds of years can claim to be truly british!
the australian story is very interesting, if push came to shove, how many Australian muslims would stand up and say they didn’t recognise australian law? not many i’d guess, so does that mean they’ll be no more bombs planted?
To me, as one who has not lived in the UK for many years, the worst of all of this is the effect that it is having on British people. We didn’t used to be like this. We didn’t used to have these racist sentiments - if we had then Alf Garnet wouldn’t have been funny. And don’t be blaming all the nasty foreigners that are coming to live there.
If you are British and of voting age then the fault is yours and yours alone. And if you are one of the increasing number of people who just can’t be bothered to vote then you need to wind your neck in and shut-up right now because you have nothing further to say. If you do not feel that the government in power are representing your views then work to change them for someone who will - all any politician wants is the job and the illusion of power that it brings and will back literally anything if they think it will keep them in work. That is what a democracy is all about but it will not change simply because you are here, or in the cafe or at work moaning about it. Democracy is the people and the people are you. So if you just sit on your ■■■ moaning then you may just have a lot more to moan about soon as those who are politically active get in the representation that they want.
How many here know the phone number or e mail of your MP? Didn’t think so. But you can be sure that those who are busily trying to change your country into something completely different know them. And they call or mail on a daily basis pushing their views - how else can things have changed so far and so fast?
The opinions expressed above of Australia are there because the people want them to be and they have a Government who is representing their views - which I happen to agree whole-heartedly with BTW. So stop blaming everybody else and start doing your bit to see that you get a government that represents your views. Your parents or grand-parents fought in a war to see that you have a democracy to live in so for their sake if for no other reason start using the power that you have and stop wasting it on complaining.
David Miller:
If you are British and of voting age then the fault is yours and yours alone. And if you are one of the increasing number of people who just can’t be bothered to vote then you need to wind your neck in and shut-up right now because you have nothing further to say. If you do not feel that the government in power are representing your views then work to change them for someone who will - all any politician wants is the job and the illusion of power that it brings and will back literally anything if they think it will keep them in work. That is what a democracy is all about but it will not change simply because you are here, or in the cafe or at work moaning about it. Democracy is the people and the people are you. So if you just sit on your ■■■ moaning then you may just have a lot more to moan about soon as those who are politically active get in the representation that they want.
i think your way off the mark mate!
i’ve never voted and never will until somebody comes along who actually looks like they may be interested in representing the working man instead of the endless line of chinless ex public schoolboys who’ve never done a days work in their lives we’ve had for the last god knows how many years!
this will never be a true democracy until there are national referendums on major issues, i’ve a feeling if that was the case, you may get more than twenty odd % at the ballot box but thats something that will never happen simply because those who have bought themselves a seat in parliament, all have their own agenda and very rarely has that got much to do with what the majority of the British public might think.
I agree with David Miller - and also with PaulB.
I wholeheartedly agree that the people must push for what they want and I personally have written many a tome to my MP’s both current and previous.
(Yes - I do know the address and number)
However, I did abstain from voting at the last election.
After attending an all party meeting where questions where asked and answers (sort of) given, I stood up and announced that I would not be voting in the forthcoming election as none of the parties upheld my personal needs and priorities or offered anything nearing my requirements in a government.
I do not consider myself guilty of apathy - I simply cannot be hypocritical enough to vote for a party which I do not wholeheartedly believe in - and we do not, at the moment, have one that can offer me all that I believe this country needs.
Saxon786:
ps. I clearly pointed out a post of inaccurate information that says Islam hates whites. Completely untrue. It is a religion that transcends the colour of your skin.
I always hope most of us can discern interesting facts from fiction, but you never know i suppose?!!
i dont think ive ever replied to one of theese threads about imigrants before (though i stand to be corrected)
send all the illegals back to their own country regardless of suppossed danger they would face
introduce the ozzie immigration system
any non brittish person commiting ANY crime to be deported immediatley ,anywhere i dont care where
etc etc etc
i am sick to death of seeing foreign gangs making this country a hellhole muggers drugdealers gangs and all the rest of the scum that floats into this once wonderful country because of the ■■■■■■■■■ that bleat on and on about human rights and how minority need is more important than the brittish peoples
anybody who lives in this country and accepts its health care and benefits but refuses to accept its beliefs customs and laws ,refuses to use its language
and openly alys themselves to threats to its people ,are guilty of treason and should be treated accordingley kick em out.
all the lawers currentley getting rich by dragging deportation cases through the courts for appeal after appeal should be forced to pay back every penny they have earned from these cases
this is not just about muslims ,its about EVERY forigner in this country that shouldnt be here
and if you dont like what ive written tough,i dont care,these are my views and by the grace of god i was born in england ,a FREE country,a coutryu where im allowed to express them,without fear
its time yo make this country great again
kick out the guardian reading wishy washy tarquins and get things into perspective
am I racist , probably.
but its this govt and the civil servants in charge that have made me one
i’ve had a day to reflect since posting and feel a response is appropriate now. I dont know what I expected but I must point out a few areas where I feel I have been misquoted or misunderstood.
To make it plain, the whole post did not embrace the whole idea of immigration, in fact I feel the Govt need to toughen up and taste the coffee when it comes to the impact of imigration on our way of life and ecomomics. What I find offensive is the wholesale hatred of human beings who are legally here and in the main only trying to better themselves and their families in a legal way. When it comes to criminals and cheats well my attitude to them is the same no matter what their race. I despise them and think the law is pathetic in the main. If thats being a do gooder and labour voter well so be it. My opinion of firms who use cheap immigrant labour to drag down rates and conditions is similarly scathing, read my posts in other threads, its not changed.
On an individual note if I came across as superior Mike C I apologise as it really wasnt my intention, if you knew me you would know that i would be horrified to be seen as that.
its just that my beliefs about racism and hatred towards other decent human beings are to important to me to continue without standing up and declaring my stance, hence the title of the post “nailing my colours to the mast”
I believe that the energy that goes into hating these people could be more effectivly directed against the Govt. who have a weak and short sighted attitude to the effects of immigration on our society and our resources and is blinded by their pathetic attempts to remain politically correct and pussyfoot round the whole issue.
Disagreeing with these policies is my democratic right and yours. in a decent society my freedom of speech to air my views is valuable beyond belief as by the way is your right to disagree with me. I may not agree with your views but I will defend to the end your right to say it.