tango boy:
Bus drivers
I thought this was TRUCK NET lol
I’m on here just to keep you lot on your toes… 
And to have someone to moan at and make you feel better when your on your high horses… 
rambo19:
tango boy:
Bus drivers
I thought this was TRUCK NET lolI’m on here just to keep you lot on your toes…
And to have someone to moan at and make you feel better when your on your high horses…
Nice one Stan
Once again Mr Juddian has got it bang to rights,WTF happened to a bit of common sense! ( thank you very much for drawing my attention to the flat tyre officer, the depot is just around the corner 
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Would it pass an MOT with the flat? No it wouldn’t. If VOSA pulled you up try explaining it to them. The vehicle was not roadworthy and should not have been driven.
mark.a:
Would it pass an MOT with the flat? No it wouldn’t. If VOSA pulled you up try explaining it to them. The vehicle was not roadworthy and should not have been driven.
Yes, here you are this is how you explain it, when I did my daily checks it was fine but during me route I noticed one of the drive tyres had lost air. Consequently the passengers have been offloaded and I am proceeding a short distance directly back to a place of repair. Or just say it wasn’t like that when you did your daily checks and stop there.
A truck won’t pass an MOT with a side marker light out. Just because there is a defect that wouldn’t be an MOT pass doesn’t mean the only safe course of action is to set-up a truck workshop immediately wherever you happen to be parked.
Having reviewed the facts i.e.
N/S/R Outer puncture - To help a few on here picture this thats the one at the back near the kerb/ pavement/ the thing that makes your steering go funny as you rub against it.
10 miles to depot- presumably through urban streets with children, Nuns, Kittens and Puppy Dogs on them.
I have deceided to stand by my original drunken ramblings and the best option would be to have the tyre replaced there and then or at best if there was a tyre company very close by.
Now if it was an inner puncture I would and have cracked on and limped it back but an outer one is a little more obvious.
Just my opinion and its possible when faced with this situation in real life I would just drive it back and chance it, but for now my keyboard warrior position gives me the opportunity to be very judgemental and condescending so I’m sticking to it. 
Armagedon:
incredible how many ‘Saints’ are on this site,I wouldn’t employ any of you,wonder how many rigs run past you every day,fully laden and the driver
isn’t aware the INSIDE rear is flat and probably has been for a week.Lads time some of you grew a pair.
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Armagedon:
incredible how many ‘Saints’ are on this site,I wouldn’t employ any of you,wonder how many rigs run past you every day,fully laden and the driver
isn’t aware the INSIDE rear is flat and probably has been for a week.Lads time some of you grew a pair.
So you’d happily employ someone who hasn’t properly checked their vehicle for a week but wouldn’t employ somebody who notices defects and thinks they should be rectified.
I’ve done it, I ran with a flat on an empty trailer once, I won’t mention how far away from the yard I was for fear of getting tarred and feathered, but I called it in to the office and between us we used my/our judgement to carry on heading back and I’d keep my eye on it and if I saw any sign of a problem I’d hit the hard shoulder, I got it back to the depot without killing any children so we considered it as a success.
knowing your engineering manager my self
I Would say you was in the volvo B9 ? bus
well it could be driven to a safe place but the problem you have is the garage do not have fitters that can go out an change wheels on buses
and the company have to pay a bigger call out on saturdays an sundays
so they will ask you to take it back to the garage on weekends
Dannyf:
knowing your engineering manager my self
I Would say you was in the volvo B9 ? bus
well it could be driven to a safe place but the problem you have is the garage do not have fitters that can go out an change wheels on buses
and the company have to pay a bigger call out on saturdays an sundays
so they will ask you to take it back to the garage on weekends
Can understand that, but does it make it legal, No, imo.
rambo19:
Dannyf:
knowing your engineering manager my self
I Would say you was in the volvo B9 ? bus
well it could be driven to a safe place but the problem you have is the garage do not have fitters that can go out an change wheels on buses
and the company have to pay a bigger call out on saturdays an sundays
so they will ask you to take it back to the garage on weekendsCan understand that, but does it make it legal, No, imo.
Well, this VOSA documents suggests advisory, not serious enough for prohibition (page 10).
gov.uk/government/uploads/s … efects.pdf
It is legal but that doesn’t mean a copper, who was going be an ■■■■■■■■, wouldn’t give you a fixed penalty - decent lawyer would get it overturned in court.
Notice that agricultural vehicles are almost entirely exempt from tyre condition regs.
A very, very strange lot bus companies. Their operation and attitude is entirely different to haulage or even coach operators, because their vehicles are normally never more than 10 miles from the depot and the workshop. Their day is totally different too with a mad rush in the morning and the same in the afternoon, but a comparatively quiet time during the middle of the day. There is tremendous pressure on the fitters (engineers in bus-speak) to turn around any vehicle reported defective after the morning ‘run out’ in time to go out again in the afternoon. This results in a fair number of temporary repairs being done. While there are penalties imposed on the operators for ‘lost mileage’ if a bus breaks down, the cost of a breakdown only a couple of miles from help, is massively different to that happening 200 miles from home. This means that Blakey’s: “get that bus out Butler” is an overriding concern when a vehicle comes in at 10 o’clock with some non-safety defect. As far as a driver is concerned changing companies is a lottery the rules are likely to be completely different to his last employer, especially if that had been a smaller operator. A good example of this would be that one particular model of bus is known for failing to start if the terminal to the oil pressure switch on the engine comes adrift, which it does. One company will make sure that its drivers either know this, or will be talked through the fix or other very simple possibilities over the phone. Another I know went through a full disciplinary procedure resulting in a week’s suspension for ‘vandalising company property’, because a driver refitted the offending wire and reported that a new terminal was needed on a defect sheet at the end of his shift.
So watch out any who have cat D and may be considering a change, what’s sauce for the goose most certainly may not be sauce for the gander.
the manager in this depo I am saying Ferry Lane in Rainham
the manager will do any thing to make him self look good on the paper work
remember the tyres are rented by them and will be changed in garage by a fitter
now if its done out on the road they get charged for this and he wont want to pay for it
best of luck with it
same guy told a bus to run back from Lewisham to Erith before and the rear out side tyre came off the rim causing lots of damage to body work
Dannyf:
the manager in this depo I am saying Ferry Lane in Rainham
the manager will do any thing to make him self look good on the paper work
remember the tyres are rented by them and will be changed in garage by a fitter
now if its done out on the road they get charged for thisbest of luck with it
same guy told a bus to run back from Lewisham to Erith before and the rear out side tyre came off the rim causing lots of damage to body work
Wrong garage mate.
Done it in the past on wagons with twin wheel trailers. Driven a fair few miles as well. As long as the bead hasn’t been broken and there’s no weight there’s usually no problem especially if its an inner. There’s probably a lot of drivers hauling lightweight stuff or running back empty who’ve driven around with a flat for a large portion of the day blissfully unaware.