I’ve worked on a contract for 2 different main contractors for 12 years, the first for 5 years and the second which is one of the largest logistics ([emoji57]) firms in the UK ever since. Due to a multitude of reasons I have become very disillusioned with the job and feel it’s time for a change. The only reason I haven’t left before now is because I am still on the original T’s&C’s and I’m on a pretty good screw compared to all the others but I simply can’t take it any longer.
So, last week I rang the somebody who runs the container part of the business and asked about a transfer, I know I’ll lose my decent contract but at least my service record would continue along with the company pension scheme. She said yes there would be a job for me but I would have to get my line manager to start the process of a transfer so I bit the bullet and asked him today. He said because he didn’t want to lose me and because our contract is listed within the group as critically short of drivers he and his boss would have to say no to me!
My question is can they do this or do I have the right to demand a transfer?
I would imagine you haven’t got a leg to stand on, but with limited info it’s hard to say. Your only option is to leave, but then you will of course lose your redundancy.
Unless a transfer is guaranteed in your contract, I don’t think you have a case.
Conan the Librarian:
I would imagine you haven’t got a leg to stand on, but with limited info it’s hard to say. Your only option is to leave, but then you will of course lose your redundancy.
Redundancy has nothing to do with it. You only get that when job, er, becomes redundant.
Tris:
Conan the Librarian:
I would imagine you haven’t got a leg to stand on, but with limited info it’s hard to say. Your only option is to leave, but then you will of course lose your redundancy.Redundancy has nothing to do with it. You only get that when job, er, becomes redundant.
Which if he leaves, he will lose his entitlement if/when it does, smart arse.
Redundancy would never happen because they have got contracts all over the place so if this one went belly up they’d just tell me there was a job at something crap like sainsburys, take it or leave it.
Conan the Librarian:
Tris:
Conan the Librarian:
I would imagine you haven’t got a leg to stand on, but with limited info it’s hard to say. Your only option is to leave, but then you will of course lose your redundancy.Redundancy has nothing to do with it. You only get that when job, er, becomes redundant.
Which if he leaves, he will lose his entitlement if/when it does, smart arse.
Which is hardly going to happen if it’s a busy company that’s desperate for drivers.
Looks like I’m screwed.
My mate has just started with maritime on a 4 on 4 off nights contract. I have to say from everything he’s told me they seem a pretty good setup. Unfortunately there is no Monday to Friday tramping vacancies where he is and I can’t/don’t want to work weekends as part of a rota.
Tris:
Conan the Librarian:
Tris:
Conan the Librarian:
I would imagine you haven’t got a leg to stand on, but with limited info it’s hard to say. Your only option is to leave, but then you will of course lose your redundancy.Redundancy has nothing to do with it. You only get that when job, er, becomes redundant.
Which if he leaves, he will lose his entitlement if/when it does, smart arse.
Which is hardly going to happen if it’s a busy company that’s desperate for drivers.
Stranger things have happened at sea.
I don’t think an employer has any right to stop you transferring to another department, I’m sure you could find something in employment law that covers it.
Find another job, then call their bluff. They might say cheerio then, but they might give you the option of a transfer.
I might ring the container woman tomorrow and tell her my manager says no. Maybe she might be able to pull some strings if she’s desperate for drivers as well.
She did say that all the managers had been told to not deny transfer requests because they’ve learnt that drivers just leave if they’re denied anyway so it’s better to say yes and keep them within the company.
When alls said and done if I could find a good job with a small independent old skool haulier that would give me a decent wage and a manual truck I’d be off like a shot but I can’t find one [emoji30]
nomiS36:
He said because he didn’t want to lose me and because our contract is listed within the group as critically short of drivers he and his boss would have to say no to me!
My question is can they do this or do I have the right to demand a transfer?
You have the legal right to ask and they have the legal right to say no.
nomiS36:
I might ring the container woman tomorrow and tell her my manager says no. Maybe she might be able to pull some strings if she’s desperate for drivers as well.
She did say that all the managers had been told to not deny transfer requests because they’ve learnt that drivers just leave if they’re denied anyway so it’s better to say yes and keep them within the company.When alls said and done if I could find a good job with a small independent old skool haulier that would give me a decent wage and a manual truck I’d be off like a shot but I can’t find one [emoji30]
Decent wage is the sticking point… I love my job (mostly) but the money isn’t good enough so I’m assessing my options.
Complete opposite to me then Tris. Don’t get me wrong I’m not on a fortune but it’s a livable wage which is surely what all of us are entitled to given we have all become professionals since the introduction of the dcpc hahaha pmsl.
nomiS36:
Complete opposite to me then Tris. Don’t get me wrong I’m not on a fortune but it’s a livable wage which is surely what all of us are entitled to given we have all become professionals since the introduction of the dcpc hahaha pmsl.
If I broke down my money to a 40 hour week I dread to think what I’d be on. It’s only the long hours that make it appear decent.
Put it this way, the container job with my lot is 55 hours whereas my current job is 50 then I’m on time and a half. So if I do 55 hours at the moment I get £90 before tax more than the container job for the same hours then my overtime rate is £5 per hour more than thiers! Therefore I must be mad to even consider it but that’s how much I really don’t want to do the job anymore. Arghhhhhh…a real dilemma for me [emoji30]
Try going through h.r ,we had this years ago where drivers were blocked transferring to depots nearer where they live ,they went to hr and they sorted it out so they were allowed to transfer to other depots
Rentadent:
I don’t think an employer has any right to stop you transferring to another department, I’m sure you could find something in employment law that covers it.
Eh? There is no automatic right to demand a transfer (or indeed any other variation of your employment contract). If you want a different contract, you have to negotiate it with your employer. If he is unwilling to change it, your options are to (a) continue under the old contract or (b) resign.
Roymondo:
Rentadent:
I don’t think an employer has any right to stop you transferring to another department, I’m sure you could find something in employment law that covers it.Eh? There is no automatic right to demand a transfer (or indeed any other variation of your employment contract). If you want a different contract, you have to negotiate it with your employer. If he is unwilling to change it, your options are to (a) continue under the old contract or (b) resign.
EDITED but meant what I said though 