Travelling up the A1 yesterday morning and another artic was overtaking, unfortunately another driver giving agency a bad name, I can only assume anyway as it was an arla trailer being pulled my an unmarked unit. So anyway on A1 with nowhere to the left for me to go and with no signal he starts moving back into lane 1 as his back axle is in line with front of my unit. All I could do was brake hard and give him the horn.
What is it with drivers that do this? Are they trying to prove they know exactly how long their vehicle is? Although this guy clearly didn’t! Unless there’s an emergency vehicle behind on blue lights then what’s the rush to get back in?
Plain white unit pulling an Arla trailer eh?? Sounds like a PCL Renault out of
Hoddesdon…think they might have 1 or 2 agency on PCL…they belong to us and being associated with Bidfood (that’s our new name, changes more often than VOSA change theirs!), they struggle with full timers apparently as everybody thinks it’s multidrop, although they do pull out Bidvest Logistics trailers. Heard the pay ain’t to bad but don’t quote me on that
robroy:
It boils my [zb] urine does that, BIG style.
But I never usually mention it on here
I just don’t understand their rush to move back in robroy. It doesn’t make it unsafe for them it only makes it unsafe for the person they are overtaking. And like I say, apart from emergency vehicles on blues then there’s no rush to get back, but even with that, no emergency response driver would expect you to pull an unsafe manoeuvre to let them past.
I had to double take the other day. On the opposite carriageway I wondered for a split second why a rigid curtain sider was towing an artic tipper. Then on second glance I could see the tipper was that close it looked like the rigid was towing it! Even when you’ve got someone behind like that though, why rush back in and make it unsafe for the person you’ve just overtaken? The person who is in the danger zone is the one up your arse and that’s their own fault so leave them there until everyone’s happy!
People seem to delight in the "knock the Johnny Foreigner " game but in my experience it is without a doubt mainly the foreign lads who give you loads of space (long after you’ve flashed 'em) before they move back over. That’s with a LHD too so it’s obviously a courtesy thing that they do.
robroy:
It boils my [zb] urine does that, BIG style.
But I never usually mention it on here
I just don’t understand their rush to move back in robroy. It doesn’t make it unsafe for them it only makes it unsafe for the person they are overtaking. And like I say, apart from emergency vehicles on blues then there’s no rush to get back, but even with that, no emergency response driver would expect you to pull an unsafe manoeuvre to let them past.
I had to double take the other day. On the opposite carriageway I wondered for a split second why a rigid curtain sider was towing an artic tipper. Then on second glance I could see the tipper was that close it looked like the rigid was towing it! Even when you’ve got someone behind like that though, why rush back in and make it unsafe for the person you’ve just overtaken? The person who is in the danger zone is the one up your arse and that’s their own fault so leave them there until everyone’s happy!
Yeh that’s right mate, but it’s like when the old ‘‘Flashing in’’ thing is mentioned on here (yeh I know, yawwwn ) you get the usual… ‘‘I don’t NEED flashed in me, cos I know EXACTLY where the back of my trailer is’’ …as if they are ■■■■ unique or something.
Fact is we ALL do, and most of us don’t ‘‘need it’’ as such. , …but if you wait for a flash it tells you the guy is happy with the space you have left him to pull back in, if he does not flash you, so what,… at least you have left too much space instead of not enough.
It’s yet another ‘drivers and steerers’ situation mate, but as I said I hate those bastds who do it with a vengeance.
Thanks to some new rubber on my drive axle I can pass most minus the Irish and SNT but if I’m overtaking and the other vehicle either speeds up to hold me out or we hit downhill stretch and they let it run over again to hold me out you can guarantee I’m coming in on top of them without an indicator.
If you’re going to be a twunt I’ll return the favour.
harrawaffa:
Thanks to some new rubber on my drive axle I can pass most minus the Irish and SNT but if I’m overtaking and the other vehicle either speeds up to hold me out or we hit downhill stretch and they let it run over again to hold me out you can guarantee I’m coming in on top of them without an indicator.
If you’re going to be a twunt I’ll return the favour.
Yeh?
So you reckon 2 wrongs make a right eh?
Does that not make you as bad a driver as the clown who kept you out?..just asking.
AND risking a rta into the bargain.
harrawaffa:
Thanks to some new rubber on my drive axle I can pass most minus the Irish and SNT but if I’m overtaking and the other vehicle either speeds up to hold me out or we hit downhill stretch and they let it run over again to hold me out you can guarantee I’m coming in on top of them without an indicator.
If you’re going to be a twunt I’ll return the favour.
Another steering wheel attandant, if any ones the ■■■■ here it is you.
The flame suit is on boys hit me with it .
In my view you wouldn’t speed up in a car if you were being overtaken so why do it in a truck?
Is the day so dull that you need to inconvenience another driver and whoever is behind them because you see it as an insult that someone wants to go faster than you are going.
Unlikely to cause an accident cos I know where my back door is.
On the other hand if someone wants past me I’m happy to accommodate by easing off same if someone moves out to let me on rather than holding them out I’ll wait till they’re passed then proceed to warp speed.
harrawaffa:
The flame suit is on boys hit me with it .
In my view you wouldn’t speed up in a car if you were being overtaken so why do it in a truck?
Is the day so dull that you need to inconvenience another driver and whoever is behind them because you see it as an insult that someone wants to go faster than you are going.
Unlikely to cause an accident cos I know where my back door is.
On the other hand if someone want’s past me I’m happy to accommodate by easing off same if someone moves out to let me on rather than holding them out I’ll wait till they’re passed then proceed to warp speed.
Yeh, but you just said ‘‘I’m coming in on top of them without an indicator’’
Whether you know where your back door is or not, do you not think that is dangerous driving?
You are talking as if somebody is justifying keeping you out…nobody is.
robroy:
Yeh, but you just said ‘‘I’m coming in on top of them without an indicator’’
Whether you know where your back door is or not, do you not think that is dangerous driving?
You are talking as if somebody is justifying keeping you out…nobody is.
robroy:
Yeh, but you just said ‘‘I’m coming in on top of them without an indicator’’
Whether you know where your back door is or not, do you not think that is dangerous driving?
You are talking as if somebody is justifying keeping you out…nobody is.
No.
You sound like the twunt I nearly smashed into on the m11 the other day pulled out no indicator and that close nearly scraping the flies off the front
harrawaffa:
Thanks to some new rubber on my drive axle I can pass most minus the Irish and SNT but if I’m overtaking and the other vehicle either speeds up to hold me out or we hit downhill stretch and they let it run over again to hold me out you can guarantee I’m coming in on top of them without an indicator.
If you’re going to be a twunt I’ll return the favour.
FFS that is the most ridiculous statement ever. Sorry M8 but you need your licence taking away.
harrawaffa:
Thanks to some new rubber on my drive axle I can pass most minus the Irish and SNT but if I’m overtaking and the other vehicle either speeds up to hold me out or we hit downhill stretch and they let it run over again to hold me out you can guarantee I’m coming in on top of them without an indicator.
If you’re going to be a twunt I’ll return the favour.
FFS that is the most ridiculous statement ever. Sorry M8 but you need your licence taking away.
+1
So because the truck speeds up going downhill you take that as “this guy is purposely not letting me in” or some kind of challenge? No, when it levels out or goes up hill they will go back to the speed they were at when your were overtaking. What do you gain by then cutting in close? Putting them in a position that if you slam on they can’t stop and smash in the back of you.
harrawaffa:
Thanks to some new rubber on my drive axle I can pass most minus the Irish and SNT but if I’m overtaking and the other vehicle either speeds up to hold me out or we hit downhill stretch and they let it run over again to hold me out you can guarantee I’m coming in on top of them without an indicator.
If you’re going to be a twunt I’ll return the favour.
FFS that is the most ridiculous statement ever. Sorry M8 but you need your licence taking away.
+1
So because the truck speeds up going downhill you take that as “this guy is purposely not letting me in” or some kind of challenge? No, when it levels out or goes up hill they will go back to the speed they were at when your were overtaking. What do you gain by then cutting in close? Putting them in a position that if you slam on they can’t stop and smash in the back of you.
What a first class tool you are. That is all.
Highway Code says you should slow down if necessary to allow another road user to complete their maneuvre.
If someone is overtaking me I never speed up downhill, I ease off or brake.
You think that it’s wise to prolong the occupation of the middle or outside lane of an artic?
Driving is dangerous enough without that outlook from “professional” drivers.
If someone is eventually going to pass you anyway just ease off and let them over, you only lose a precious 0.5 seconds out of your journey.
Hmmm slow down to let someone complete an overtake when they are doing it into oncoming traffic? Yes definitely
When someone is passing you in lane 2 on a 3 or 4 lane motorway? Not sure it’s entirely necessary when they can pass you at the bottom of the hill anyway. And in Any case, I don’t think if you don’t slow down it justifies pulling in with no signal 2 inches in front, which is the point of this thread.
Also you said “if necessary”, so why is it necessary in the above situation? It’s necessary on a single carriageway but not on motorway
Had it few times where I’ve started an overtake gotten most of way past and then found the downhill and lost the advantage, just let them go pull back in behind and try again when you get the chance and it’s safe. This coming back in without an indicator malarkey is pure suicide.
) you get the usual… ‘‘I don’t NEED flashed in me, cos I know EXACTLY where the back of my trailer is’’ 
, …but if you wait for a flash it tells you the guy is happy with the space you have left him to pull back in, if he does not flash you, so what,… at least you have left too much space instead of not enough.
