Top tip; when your tacho displays 4 hours driving then start looking for a place to stop.
This not only avoids two page hair splitting threads it also removes absolutely the chance of an infringement. If doing this will cause you problems then I respectfully suggest that you or your planners are not planning your work with sufficient leeway for the “crap happens” factor.
Rentadent:
likewise the suggestion elsewhere that you need to IMMEDIATELY put it on break when you’ve stopped on 4:30, again that is incorrect, as long as it’s not registered driving then the mode can be anything other the actual driving.
Nope, once you hit 4:30 driving then the only available options are break or start a daily or weekly rest period. Tacho on any other mode at that point will be an infringement.
After a driving period of no more than 4.5 hours, a driver must immediately take a break of at least 45 minutes unless he takes a rest period
Couldn’t be any clearer.
Plugster:
mr infringement is my nick name at work, all minor but lots of them, got a tug off vosa tother week everyone shown up, they werent a bit bothered , the way i see it is if you park up at 4 hours and then at 4 hours again you need another 45 to get ya last hour and the odds are your putting yourself on a break just as the M6 is letting out, take the 2 min infringement and get yaselves home will ya
No because whilst the idiots are continuing to do this and “getting the job done” then planners will continue to plan runs that can only be done by breaking the law.
The place I’m at has a predicted time for the run. If you exceed it you have to put the reason why. When its been exceeded a certain number of times the reasons why are looked at and if needs be, the predicted time gets ramped up. Upshot is then they’re not giving drivers runs they cannot do. This has already resulted in one run which involved two runs to Runcorn and back being changed to doing a run to Runcorn and back then a changeover at Birch as the only way to do the two Runcorns was to strap down/de-strap the loads on break. So instead of drivers chasing themselves up their own backsides the job is now steady eddie.
Coffeeholic:
Rentadent:
likewise the suggestion elsewhere that you need to IMMEDIATELY put it on break when you’ve stopped on 4:30, again that is incorrect, as long as it’s not registered driving then the mode can be anything other the actual driving.Nope, once you hit 4:30 driving then the only available options are break or start a daily or weekly rest period. Tacho on any other mode at that point will be an infringement.
After a driving period of no more than 4.5 hours, a driver must immediately take a break of at least 45 minutes unless he takes a rest period
Couldn’t be any clearer.
Except for the slightly inconvenient fact that the word “immediately” doesn’t appear in that part of the Regulations, only in the VOSA GV262 publication, which bears a clear disclaimer on the cover page:
This publication gives general guidance only and should not be regarded as a complete or authoritative statement
of the law.
Roymondo:
Coffeeholic:
Rentadent:
likewise the suggestion elsewhere that you need to IMMEDIATELY put it on break when you’ve stopped on 4:30, again that is incorrect, as long as it’s not registered driving then the mode can be anything other the actual driving.Nope, once you hit 4:30 driving then the only available options are break or start a daily or weekly rest period. Tacho on any other mode at that point will be an infringement.
After a driving period of no more than 4.5 hours, a driver must immediately take a break of at least 45 minutes unless he takes a rest period
Couldn’t be any clearer.
Except for the slightly inconvenient fact that the word “immediately” doesn’t appear in that part of the Regulations, only in the VOSA GV262 publication, which bears a clear disclaimer on the cover page:
This publication gives general guidance only and should not be regarded as a complete or authoritative statement
of the law.
Even without the word immediately it’s still clear.
After a driving period of four and a half hours a driver shall take an uninterrupted break of not less than 45 minutes, unless he takes a rest period
So at 4.5 hours you take a break unless taking a rest, thats it, that’s the only two options. GV262 is only clarifying things for the terminally bewildered which is why it adds in words to make clearer what is already there.
