The lunar lander looks like something off blue Peter and how they got the car up and put it together is a mystery!
I’ve just watched the apollo 11 post flight conference and they look so sheepish!
What do you guys think about it?
Who knows ?, and I doubt we ever will.
One thing is sure though, those 3 looked & acted like they were at a funeral (very strange) and not 3 guys who had just made history.
So if those 3 never went (if you have not seen the interview you should) who did ?
It’s funny how this subject has cropped up when dozy has disappeared off the face of the earth.
Is dozy really an alien and he’s been called back home or has he been chosen for the next space mission.
If it’s the latter, I wonder if he’ll make it back by Friday.
The Sarge:
Moon landing deniers are in the same box as flat earthers. The stupid box.
Once saw a quote from a flat earth organisation “we have members all around the globe”!
I rest my case.
Everyone knows it was a load of faked nonsense really and that the news and governments have been lying to us for years but the majority prefer denial over rocking the boat - don’t necessarily blame them.
Won’t be going to the moon, mars or anywhere else anytime soon as the van allen belt radiation is an insurmountable obstacle.
Own Account Driver:
Everyone knows it was a load of faked nonsense really and that the news and governments have been lying to us for years but the majority prefer denial over rocking the boat - don’t necessarily blame them.
Won’t be going to the moon, mars or anywhere else anytime soon as the van allen belt radiation is an insurmountable obstacle.
Don’t you think it would have been easier to just put men on the moon, than risk bringing American society down with a fraud of biblical proportions?
Nixon was hung out to dry for engaging a couple of burglars in a dirty tricks campaign - and evidently they couldn’t even keep that affair a secret. A fraud on the scale of faking a moon landing would require the input of tens of thousands of expert personnel at the very least. Honestly, in considering why moon landing denial is ludicrous, my inner monologue has spent the past 10 minutes staggering drunkenly from logical pillar to logical post! It’s utterly risible!
GasGas:
And people used to drive Leyland Marathons to the Middle East, and (even more incredible) back again!
On a side note mate, Leyland Marathons were luxury (and if ■■■■■■■ powered well capable of getting there and back again) compared to some of the earlier M.East trucks, AECs, Seddons, and Atki Borderers for eg…not sure any made it to the moon though.
A London bus managed to make it tho’ and it must have been true because there was a colour photo of it in the Sunday Sport
Rjan:
Don’t you think it would have been easier to just put men on the moon, than risk bringing American society down with a fraud of biblical proportions?
Nixon was hung out to dry for engaging a couple of burglars in a dirty tricks campaign - and evidently they couldn’t even keep that affair a secret. A fraud on the scale of faking a moon landing would require the input of tens of thousands of expert personnel at the very least. Honestly, in considering why moon landing denial is ludicrous, my inner monologue has spent the past 10 minutes staggering drunkenly from logical pillar to logical post! It’s utterly risible!
The difference would be ‘if’ the ‘fraud’ was seen as being in the US national interest,including a show of defence technology capability and therefore a Cold War deterrent,based on defence chiefs advice to the President.IE getting Nixon would have been seen as justified whistle blowing but grassing up the Apollo programme would have been seen as treason probably resulting in a CIA hit.
If the Orion video posted by OAO is genuine NASA is toast.
Own Account Driver:
Everyone knows it was a load of faked nonsense really and that the news and governments have been lying to us for years but the majority prefer denial over rocking the boat - don’t necessarily blame them.
Own Account Driver:
Everyone knows it was a load of faked nonsense really and that the news and governments have been lying to us for years but the majority prefer denial over rocking the boat - don’t necessarily blame them.
The Van Allen Belt waxes and wanes in intensity due to variations in solar activity. At the speed they were travelling they would pass through it in about 2 hours. Easily survivable if the right time was chosen to travel through it.
Own Account Driver:
Won’t be going to the moon, mars or anywhere else anytime soon as the van allen belt radiation is an insurmountable obstacle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O5dPsu66Kw
The Van Allen Belt waxes and wanes in intensity due to variations in solar activity. At the speed they were travelling they would pass through it in about 2 hours.Easily survivable if the right time was chosen to travel through it.
cav551:
Where’s Carryfast? he must have an opinion on this. Over to Bully’s.
Blimey now that you’ve all done the easy bit of getting 450 hp from an AEC V8 maybe you,railstaff,ERF and Anorak can now explain how aircraft wings and fuselage and tail section,all cut through massive structural steel beams under the load of holding up a sky scraper,like a knife through butter.
As opposed to a coordinated Chinese cruise missile attack ‘warning shot’ on the basis of put up or shut up and America chose shut up ( surrender ).The damage limitation exercise being CGI and not even that in the case of the Pentagon and let’s blame the Arabs for it ?.
While even as a believer in the moon landings at the time I’m now left with pondering the questions.How the aluminium tin can making up the Appollo space craft shielded the crew from the Van Allen radiation belt.Or even normal cosmic radiation in the case of that and the lunar lander.
**Or how the modules,let alone a fabric space suit,can do that and stand up to the pressure differential of the virtually perfect vacuum of space outside v whatever inside without expanding uncontrollably then exploding.**Also where was the lunar rover car stowed ?.
Let’s just say that I’d rather listen to Biking’s view on all that.
From memory, the air pressure inside the space suit is less than one atmosphere. This is a lot less than the air pressure inside a space craft (hence the air locks) and users face the risk of getting the bends. It also makes it less of a challenge keeping structural integrity. It’s probably much more difficult sending a person deep underwater where the pressure difference is much greater, just in a different direction.
I don’t however know where the car was stowed, it is still up there though.
Whenever a conspiracy theorist comes up with something half interesting (that can still be explained) I’m curious, and then realise they normally also think the population is being sprayed by chemtrails from jet airliners. “Er, ok” [walks away backwards very slowly]
Carryfast:
Blimey now that you’ve all done the easy bit of getting 450 hp from an AEC V8 maybe you,railstaff,ERF and Anorak can now explain how aircraft wings and fuselage and tail section,all cut through massive structural steel beams under the load of holding up a sky scraper,like a knife through butter.
As opposed to a coordinated Chinese cruise missile attack ‘warning shot’ on the basis of put up or shut up and America chose shut up ( surrender ).The damage limitation exercise being CGI and not even that in the case of the Pentagon and let’s blame the Arabs for it ?.
While even as a believer in the moon landings at the time I’m now left with pondering the questions.How the aluminium tin can making up the Appollo space craft shielded the crew from the Van Allen radiation belt.Or even normal cosmic radiation in the case of that and the lunar lander.
**Or how the modules,let alone a fabric space suit,can do that and stand up to the pressure differential of the virtually perfect vacuum of space outside v whatever inside without expanding uncontrollably then exploding.**Also where was the lunar rover car stowed ?.
Let’s just say that I’d rather listen to Biking’s view on all that.
From memory, the air pressure inside the space suit is less than one atmosphere. This is a lot less than the air pressure inside a space craft (hence the air locks) and users face the risk of getting the bends. It also makes it less of a challenge keeping structural integrity. It’s probably much more difficult sending a person deep underwater where the pressure difference is much greater, just in a different direction.
I don’t however know where the car was stowed, it is still up there though.
It’s it’s the pressure ‘differential’ inside v outside that matters.We all know how much potential explosive force has to be contained regarding just the pressure differential from inside to outside within an aircraft fuselage flying high in the atmosphere.Let alone when the outside pressure acting against the inside pressure is infinitely less in space.As for the deep sea diving suit withstanding such pressure differentials in the opposite direction.Doesn’t that just add weight to the conspiracy theory ?.IE not exactly anything like a ‘space suit’.
Whenever a conspiracy theorist comes up with something half interesting (that can still be explained) I’m curious, and then realise they normally also think the population is being sprayed by chemtrails from jet airliners. “Er, ok” [walks away backwards very slowly]
I once had a bet with the science class I was teaching (circa 2005ish) that I could use science to counter ANY moon conspiracy. The only time everyone did their bloody homework! I did it though.
Whenever a conspiracy theorist comes up with something half interesting (that can still be explained) I’m curious, and then realise they normally also think the population is being sprayed by chemtrails from jet airliners. “Er, ok” [walks away backwards very slowly]
I once had a bet with the science class I was teaching (circa 2005ish) that I could use science to counter ANY moon conspiracy. The only time everyone did their bloody homework! I did it though.
Whenever a conspiracy theorist comes up with something half interesting (that can still be explained) I’m curious, and then realise they normally also think the population is being sprayed by chemtrails from jet airliners. “Er, ok” [walks away backwards very slowly]
Firstly that doesn’t seem consistent with the seeming NASA video regarding the Orion project.That suggests the Van Allen is a much more serious obstacle.
As for chem v contrails.Who knows.The conspiracists obviously aren’t referring to ‘civil airliners’ being used as we know them and the motives range from poisoning the population ( unbelievable ) to typical climate change believing nutters trying to deflect the sun’s energy using reflective metallic type materials ( all too believable ).While the trails themselves certainly look like nothing we’ve experienced before being way too long and too wide and seeming to open out into massive cloud formations which at worse easily completely zb up what was a nice clear day with blue skies.
Whenever a conspiracy theorist comes up with something half interesting (that can still be explained) I’m curious, and then realise they normally also think the population is being sprayed by chemtrails from jet airliners. “Er, ok” [walks away backwards very slowly]
I once had a bet with the science class I was teaching (circa 2005ish) that I could use science to counter ANY moon conspiracy. The only time everyone did their bloody homework! I did it though.
Whenever a conspiracy theorist comes up with something half interesting (that can still be explained) I’m curious, and then realise they normally also think the population is being sprayed by chemtrails from jet airliners. “Er, ok” [walks away backwards very slowly]
I once had a bet with the science class I was teaching (circa 2005ish) that I could use science to counter ANY moon conspiracy. The only time everyone did their bloody homework! I did it though.
