calsdad:
Contraflow:
calsdad:
Just done a sunday night shift at £17ph… Not boasting just fact.I wouldn’t be boasting either. That’s not really “crazy money” for a Sunday night shift is it.
Out of interest what do you get for sunday nights. Might help me negotiate up…
I don’t do Sundays or nights.
I have done two Saturdays on days this year though… but I wouldn’t have done them for £17ph.
Not boasting just fact. 
john-sussex:
Makes me smile all this chat about money going up, Down here in the south there is no sign of wage increases nor of drivers shortages, you will struggle to get more than £8 hr for class one work, so it is not country wide by any means…
Its mostly agency users on here are quoting these high rate increases.
There is definitely a increase in jobs out there though. Not sure if its a shortage or down to the industry picking up as a whole.
Been gettin that money for five years atleast
calsdad:
Just done a sunday night shift at £17ph clean work one drop 12 hours. Invoiced £204 as ltd company driver.Not boasting just fact…
At double time that’s only £8.50 per hour. So yeah, well done for not boasting 
calsdad:
Contraflow:
calsdad:
Just done a sunday night shift at £17ph… Not boasting just fact.I wouldn’t be boasting either. That’s not really “crazy money” for a Sunday night shift is it.
Out of interest what do you get for sunday nights. Might help me negotiate up…
My two pennies worth…
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect double time for a Sunday shift, period. I also don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect a bit extra for unsociable hours.
The basic hourly rate at my place is far from spectacular (roughly £9.10), yet for a Sunday night you get about £22ph.
So I reckon you can do better, as a self employed driver i’d imagine you value yourself at more than £9.10ph.
desypete:
listen arse lickerif it wasnt for guys like me who stuck 2 fingers up then there wouldnt be a shortage and you wouldnt get a single penny increase
so the least you can do is say thank you to all the other truckers like me who said enough is enough
i wish many more of the guys would off seen this as the best way forward to improve the conditions for all and simply refused to do the training, there was 5 years warning and if by the last year hardly anyone hadnt done it well then they couldnt force it on uscan you imagine 300,000 driver without a cpc card ? what on earth would happen ?
they would bring in 300,000 imports ? i doubt itthey would sack 300,000 ■■? nope not a chance as they need everyone of them
thankfully there was a decent lot of us who did quit hence there is a ripple now about shortages, but the ones who have there card dont deserve a single penny as they got it be doing nothing but being a good little boy
so enjoy your pay rises lads and who knows you might even get more money than a self stacker or warehouse man ? even fork lift guys earn more at many places
so i hope the wages do go up and if they do increase well i might just go on get a card myself if the money is to good to turn down
and if i do then i will be one of the guys who made it happen and not the guys with there cpc cards in place
thanks for reading and sorry if it gets some so called drivers backs up then so what can you honestly say you deserved any sort of pay rise by going ahead and getting a card ? maybe you think its a loyalty thing lol
You are quite literally an embarrassment to yourself. A self righteous dinosaur, terrified of change and evolution. People don’t even have to have a go at you to make you sound worse. They should just say “Pete, say something else” and you will do it all on your own.
You really need a reality check.
Phil1979:
You really need a reality chack.
I agree.
The whole idea that truck drivers could have halted the CPC by all refusing to do it in unison, although perhaps true, is also an delusional pipe dream. If we all refused to pay this years council tax increase they are hardly going to lob us all in jail, doesn’t mean organising such a protest is ever a likely prospect. It’s not worth getting upset about.
And please don’t bring train & tube drivers into this. It’s ■■■■ easy to get your own way when one individual workforce has the power to grind a city to a halt.
desypete:
…i might just go on get a card myself if the money is to good to turn down
That dole money doesn’t stretch very far does it? 
desypete:
i might just go on get a card myself if the money is to good to turn down
But wait, what about your “plan b” you were telling me about only last week? :
desypete:
LHD:
You’ll have done your CPC by Christmas when you shortly realise you are not qualified or experienced at any other trade and see your bank balance rapidly depleting. By the way, adding to every post that you’ve been driving for 26 yrs, never had an accident and no speeding fines just makes you look a complete ■■■■ after the first one. We hear you, you’re a Driving God.i am a bit smarter than that as i would never have got out of the game if i didnt have a plan b, and i would suggest all drivers look out for the future as you just never know whats ahead or around that next corner
Why would you need to come to driving? Remember, you are not doing the CPC under any circumstances, because you’re making a stand, right! 
Surely you wouldn’t make a complete fool of yourself and go back on your word? After all, you don’t need the money from driving as your “plan b” was put into action the moment you quit from driving, remember?
desypete, like all of the morons bleating on about the DCPC and feeling smug about not doing it, is sat at home and probably now broke like the rest of them. Plan B has failed when they found out that applying for jobs with no qualifications other than a HGV license and a few decades of driving a truck doesn’t get you anywhere in the modern world where 50% of school leavers go on to do degrees. Phil summed it up perfectly. Him and his ilk are self righteous dinosaurs terrified of change which is why haulage has taken so long to come to anything remotely resembling a reasonable working environment with reasonable pay. Another decade and we may even have entered the 21st Century in regards to working practices. One can only hope.
Funny how the companies who do operate in a modern corporate manner have drivers queuing up at the gates and its dead mans shoes to get a job and those operating like its 1979 are really struggling to get bums on seats. Obviously not many people think like desypete does and thank god they don’t.
playing devils advocate here but… i have not done my dcpc and dont want to (work in recruitment), i have over 15 years experience as a C+E driver but also have other strings to my bow (degree) so maybe some are being quick to jump and assume.
having said that i agree that if drivers had for once actually stuck together then rates would have drastically increased, the downside being bills, family etc. wont let you sit around for too long.
still its nice to see the rates going up and hopefully they will stay up after xmas is over (dont be shocked if they dont mind), and the full time guys were never going to turn down a days pay for sitting on their behinds learning diddly squat.
i guess it just depends on your plan B and what YOU are happy with 
BillyHunt:
‘…transport company bosses has nothing to do with bringing in the DCPC…’
You now appear un-supportive of what you’ve written 
So which MP’s, Government agency or organisation/federation of bosses or individual company boss, etc, etc, etc did anything notable or newsworthy to challenge the EU stomping over the UK transport industry by the DCPC?
Bare in mind that silence suggests very few - thereby arguing ‘…bosses…’ of all persuasions including politicians and in and around transport broadly stood by to watch the EU’s undemocratic onslaught
BillyHunt:
‘… I don’t recall thousands, hundreds or even dozens of youngsters champing at the bit to get into this industry prior to the EU open border system starting…’
I wager there were more 40 years ago than now, rotten as it is with Brussels administered intrusion 
Perhaps be advised that the erosion of UK pride in ‘British jobs for British workers’ (LoL, if only it wasn’t so tragic) has been a gradual process during the corresponding ‘drip-drip-drip’ intrusion of the Common Market, EEC and EU (at increasing phases that the European Federation-in-Waiting has been at) during an evil and democratically unchallenged rise that must now be called to account by the UK binning it.
The nation has been stupefied by the EU in Brussels, mate - as evidenced by many of the electorate not bothering to spit on a (mainstream) pro-EU, MP anymore
war1974:
‘… if drivers had for once actually stuck together …’
How would that ever have been possible under the EU (via Blair, et al) dictated ■■■■ for diversity 
it wouldn’t EVER happen you could not even get the drivers at the same company to stick together! had a few experiences of work to rule etc and was amazed when other drivers were taking days off and coming in on overtime.
every driver for himself seems to be the rule!
Happy Keith:
BillyHunt:
‘…transport company bosses has nothing to do with bringing in the DCPC…’You now appear un-supportive of what you’ve written
Ah HK, still banging on I see, ok then just for you. Im happy to stand by what I originally wrote, that is to say the “bosses” we’re not responsible for bringing in the DCPC, as I explained, in the parts you don’t quote, by bosses I mean transport company bosses. By you’re reasoning we are just as responsible as we did bugger all, other that complain on here & a fat lot of good that did. As a matter of interest what did your messiah do or say against it while “busy” in Brussels? It’s just that I don’t recall any missives from Lord nigel saying anything.
So which MP’s, Government agency or organisation/federation of bosses or individual company boss, etc, etc, etc did anything notable or newsworthy to challenge the EU stomping over the UK transport industry by the DCPC?Bare in mind that silence suggests very few - thereby arguing ‘…bosses…’ of all persuasions including politicians and in and around transport broadly stood by to watch the EU’s undemocratic onslaught
BillyHunt:
‘… I don’t recall thousands, hundreds or even dozens of youngsters champing at the bit to get into this industry prior to the EU open border system starting…’I wager there were more 40 years ago than now, rotten as it is with Brussels administered intrusion
Perhaps be advised that the erosion of UK pride in ‘British jobs for British workers’ (LoL, if only it wasn’t so tragic) has been a gradual process during the corresponding ‘drip-drip-drip’ intrusion of the Common Market, EEC and EU (at increasing phases that the European Federation-in-Waiting has been at) during an evil and democratically unchallenged rise that must now be called to account by the UK binning it.
The nation has been stupefied by the EU in Brussels, mate - as evidenced by many of the electorate not bothering to spit on a (mainstream) pro-EU, MP anymore
dont know how many wanted to become drivers 40 years ago, I would guess that most of them that wanted to did, there being less “foreigners” around then. If you want to think the EU consists of the rest of Europe sitting around trying to think up ways to annoy Brits then carry on. While no big fan of it I’m aware they, occasionally do other stuff.
Aspray Transport are paying crazy money these days. How does Quarter of a mill sound 
Still not enough to spend all day in a day cab DAF
Terry T:
Aspray Transport are paying crazy money these days. How does Quarter of a mill soundStill not enough to spend all day in a day cab DAF
£260,000 a year is OK, but there’s no mention of whether or not overtime is available.
desypete:
mark haywood:
desypete:
the money is going up all over the place
as many know i was one of the drivers who refused to get a cpc card and gave up with driving like a lot of other guys who had the guts to make a standfor all those drivers who went ahead and got there cpc card you dont deserve a single penny of any increase in pay as you had no balls to hold this country to book
the cpc card was the best chance ever for all drivers to have told the bosses no and thought about the bigger picture, there was no way on earth they could replace all the drivers so the country would of had to have backed down
as it is the few of us who made the stand have created a shortfall of experienced drivers hence the money is going up now as they know each year there are not enough drivers coming through so the rates will have to go up for a while now to try to get back to the time when there are to many drivers
anyway not one driver who got his cpc should benefit as they never had the balls, dont give me the i have a mortgage to pay rubbish as there would of been no way anyone would of lost there job if yard by yard all the drivers said no to training. we would all be on at least 20 quid an hour now with over time after 8 as it is things will improve for those good little drivers who did what the bosses wanted and put themselves first makes me sick but thats what drivers are like.
just looking on the forum i have seen many threads all about who is getting paid what ? the little herberts are looking to see if they can make more money all over, the best advice i would give to drivers is keep your gob shut about how much more money your getting to keep them greedy little herberts stuck in there low pay jobs serve them right in my eyes : )
What a self righteous prick !!! I got my dcpc , and a pay rise so cheers daft lad , you crack on whinging on here , and leave the rest of us to reap the rewards , cheers : )
listen arse licker
if it wasnt for guys like me who stuck 2 fingers up then there wouldnt be a shortage and you wouldnt get a single penny increase
so the least you can do is say thank you to all the other truckers like me who said enough is enough
i wish many more of the guys would off seen this as the best way forward to improve the conditions for all and simply refused to do the training, there was 5 years warning and if by the last year hardly anyone hadnt done it well then they couldnt force it on uscan you imagine 300,000 driver without a cpc card ? what on earth would happen ?
they would bring in 300,000 imports ? i doubt itthey would sack 300,000 ■■? nope not a chance as they need everyone of them
thankfully there was a decent lot of us who did quit hence there is a ripple now about shortages, but the ones who have there card dont deserve a single penny as they got it be doing nothing but being a good little boy
so enjoy your pay rises lads and who knows you might even get more money than a self stacker or warehouse man ? even fork lift guys earn more at many places
so i hope the wages do go up and if they do increase well i might just go on get a card myself if the money is to good to turn down
and if i do then i will be one of the guys who made it happen and not the guys with there cpc cards in place
thanks for reading and sorry if it gets some so called drivers backs up then so what can you honestly say you deserved any sort of pay rise by going ahead and getting a card ? maybe you think its a loyalty thing lol
Seriously, what a prick. Do you honestly think you’re some sort of heroic voice of the people, and we should all be so SO grateful for your noble and honourable fight on our behalf? Get a life, ■■■■■■■■■
So if everyone had been double hard like you pete and not done the dcpc, they scrapped it, everyone carries on as normal, where does the pay rise come from?
Make it hard, tested with modules that have to be passed on specific trailer / load types before you can drive with them