Has anyone else noticed how often people are on the phone while driving now? Car drivers and HGV drivers.
I have seen people on video calls, watching youtube etc etc.
It’s quite an annoying trend. It’s like an addiction people have with phones nowadays. driving in London in busy streets. Practically every pedestrian is glued to their phone while walking.
I do wonder if mobile phones is like the smoking of the early 20th century when it was fashionable for everyone to smoke and you was seen as a bit of a outcast if you did not smoke. Only later to find out there was serious harm done by smoking.
I do think mobile phones do cause you harm. Psychological at the very least. It messes with your brain a bit. You get used to instant gratification. Which can impact concentration levels.
I’m sure there are a few studies that have assessed the impact of mobile phones.
They will never stop this until they bring in an instant ban its obvious a fine and 6 points is not enough of deterrent as we still see this all the time, i am sure the risk of a months ban would have the desired effect on the majority of these idiots.
Frances Haugan has been spilling the beans today on the nefarious techniques Facebook uses to create this ‘addiction’.
Those of us from a generation without mobile phones in childhood should think ourselves lucky.
There are young adults out there whose minds have been professionally manipulated since childhood.
As stated previously, this addiction can be likened to smoking in many ways.
ScaniaUltimate:
As stated previously, this addiction can be likened to smoking in many ways.
A bit off topic but -
Why is it OK to smoke at the wheel when its not OK to hold a phone to your ear or eat/drink while driving?
On the same note, I used to have a new Actris with all the touchscreen controls. Even the heating and aircon was controlled through it but its quite a faff when driving as you’ve git to actubeky engage with the screen to see what you’re doing.
ScaniaUltimate:
As stated previously, this addiction can be likened to smoking in many ways.
A bit off topic but -
Why is it OK to smoke at the wheel when its not OK to hold a phone to your ear or eat/drink while driving?
All those, including smoking, can be used against you if you are not considered to be in proper control of the vehicle.
The offence of using a mobile phone whilst driving is quite specific and multifaceted.
If you watch the video in the thread here: trucknetuk.com/phpBB/viewto … 2&t=170031
you will see how much handheld use you can make of a mobile phone & still be found not guilty.
Had the prosecution decided to use the charge of ‘not in proper control’ she would have been found guilty.
“Use” A mobile telephone or device will be in use where it is making or receiving a call, or performing any other interactive communication function, whether with another person or not. For the purposes of section 41D and Regulation 110 the “use” must be for an interactive communication function (Baretto paragraph 37.) The legislation does not prohibit all uses of mobile telephones or other devices, just calls or other interactive communications if the phone or device is held at some stage during that process (Baretto paragraph 47.)
Source: cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/r … ile-phones
toonsy:
On the same note, I used to have a new Actris with all the touchscreen controls. Even the heating and aircon was controlled through it but its quite a faff when driving as you’ve git to actubeky engage with the screen to see what you’re doing.
This is ok obviously…
Dials were much better. And safer.
I agree.
I always ask my passenger (when I have one) to alter the heating when in the car due to the issues you raise.
It seems manufacturers can get away with implementing vast amounts of unnecessary driver distraction.
I would like to see the NCAP take these systems into consideration. Without the major distractions in the first place we wouldn’t need the crash protection stuff so much!
ScaniaUltimate:
you will see how much handheld use you can make of a mobile phone & still be found not guilty
Yeah but all that is due to change relatively shortly, as soon as this goes through Parliament drivers will be getting the CU80 penalty code and 6 points and a fine for anything that involves holding the phone in your hand
Switch it off and throw it in the back! Problem solved.
Facebook has been one massive psychological and social experiment from the beginning. It has an entire research department dedicated to research in this area.
Since the first day I registered an account there, my entire profile has been a total fabrication. They thought they were manipulating me, LOL!
Way I see it it’s just another state led drip feed propaganda example, technique of …
‘‘Keep telling the population that something is either this that or the other, back it up by convenient statistics and examples,.and they not only end up believing it, but go on to repeat it to influence others’’…
A technique perfected by the likes of Herr Goebbels and his crew, and perpetuated by the Russians, the E.Germans, and the Koreans.
Talking on the phone whilst driving is what the human race is programmed to do, ie …multi tasking. …
Ok,.a few ham fisted inept bufoons have come a cropper doing so in the past, where as the rest of us managed it quite fine with no problems for years when mobiles (or ‘car phones’ as they were) first came out.
But true to form they decided to make it anti social, unacceptable and eventually illegal, then successfully worked on the populace to convince them…as illustrated on here and in society in general.,.a bit like wearing ■■■■ masks and welding visors on our streets today.
Texting, watching vids and all the rest of it is another ball game, as you are constantly taking your eyes off the road, talking is what we do all day in our lives, it does not distract you in a vehicle any more than listening intently to a good doc or discussion on the radio,.
Even the driving with one hand thing…that is how I have driven a truck for over 30 years, nothing clever, it’s just what I do.
Do I use a hand held phone any more’?
No chance, not because I believe any old crap fed to me. but because I never give the ■■■■■ an excuse to nick me.
It seems that stiff sentences have little deterrent effect in many areas. It is the likelihood of getting caught that most affects behaviour.
The level of fine for speeding doesn’t matter as much as the thought that a camera will catch an offender.
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Some automated, widespread way of catching offenders would knock this on the head sharpish.
ScaniaUltimate:
you will see how much handheld use you can make of a mobile phone & still be found not guilty
Yeah but all that is due to change relatively shortly, as soon as this goes through Parliament drivers will be getting the CU80 penalty code and 6 points and a fine for anything that involves holding the phone in your hand
I haven’t read it but if that is the case its about time, they still need to bring in a one month ban or make it 11 points if caught otherwise people will still risk it.
Talking on the phone whilst driving is what the human race is programmed to do, ie …multi tasking. …
There is no reason there days for anyone to hold and look at the phone while driving hands free kits are cheap and most modern have Bluetooth connection etc my truck has a pioneer radio that allows my phone to connect via Bluetooth and i can speak hands free i now don’t take the phone out of my pocket.
Texting, watching vids and all the rest of it is another ball game, as you are constantly taking your eyes off the road, talking is what we do all day in our lives, it does not distract you in a vehicle any more than listening intently to a good doc or discussion on the radio,.
Talking on the phone whilst driving is what the human race is programmed to do, ie …multi tasking. …
There is no reason there days for anyone to hold and look at the phone while driving hands free kits are cheap and most modern have Bluetooth connection etc my truck has a pioneer radio that allows my phone to connect via Bluetooth and i can speak hands free i now don’t take the phone out of my pocket.
Texting, watching vids and all the rest of it is another ball game, as you are constantly taking your eyes off the road, talking is what we do all day in our lives, it does not distract you in a vehicle any more than listening intently to a good doc or discussion on the radio,.
1.I did not say there WAS a reason to hold a phone, and I agree with you.
My point was that I did not agree there was any problem in doing so in REAL terms iin the REAL world, not something that has been drummed into our brains over the years to stop us doing it, and to make us believe there is/was an actual problem for the vast majority of us.
2.As I said ‘‘Backed up by various statistics and examples’’.
For every one of those events, and as I said examples (CBA to watch them btw, as I can guess the content) there are tens of thousands of examples where nothing happened when we all done it as a matter of course on a daily basis…apart from the stated inept who can only do one thing at once.
For every one of those events, and as I said examples (CBA to watch them btw, as I can guess the content) there are tens of thousands of examples where nothing
If you don’t want to watch them all at least spend one minute watching the one below where it discusses brain activity.
Normal driving engages the posterior part of the brain that controlled visual and spacial awareness -
When a conversation takes place activity shifts to the pre frontal cortex which controlls decision making this causes tunnel vision as the parts of the brain that look after peripheral vision are diverted to the conversation.
Those that think they can talk on a phone be it hand held or hands free without it taking concentration from the task of driving are deluding themselves
This has been proven so many times
The law should be no mobile communication except when the hand/park brake is fully applied
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