Mobile phone does not charge in DAF CF '17 plate

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Hi Everybody
my Samsung Galaxy S5 mobile does not charge in the DAF CF 2017 unit. Tried multiple units, it’s the same. It’s showing it’s charging, but battery goes flat, like it wouldn’t be on the charger at all. I had this mobile in Scanias, and many cars, vans, and never had any problem with it. Used two different cigarette lighter to USB adapters, both doing the same. If I plug the phone to the original mains charger, or in my car it’s fine.
I can assume it’s the cr@ppy daf traktor unit.
Any advice?

EDIT: [SOLVED] 16 Aug 2019

Bought this item from Ebay: HELLA-PLUG-TO-CIGARETTE-LIGHTER-SOCKET-ADAPTOR
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HELLA-PLUG-TO-CIGARETTE-LIGHTER-SOCKET-ADAPTOR-12volt-24-Volt-TA-91853/111675035391
Item: 4.99 , postage: 2.80

This uses the 24V socket in the cab, not the 12V which seems to have a design fault, or poor 24V to 12V converter built in.

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Samsung will…

Make sure your S5 is obselete one way or another pretty soon.

Start looking for a new phone.

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Is the phone connected to the truck with bluetooth? Does it feel hot? If so then it could be that the bluetooth isn’t using low power mode and either that or some software you have running is preventing the phone from going to sleep and because you’re using a USB charger that has a low current rating the amount of power the phone is using is greater than the charger is supplying hence the battery going flat eventually even though it is showing it is charging.

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Had similar in a ‘14 DAF XF SSC, fried my battery in the end on an iPhone 8.

Not much help, but it’s obviously DAF related

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If it’s like the xf I dont own but steer the usb is a media port not a charging port

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Conor:
Is the phone connected to the truck with bluetooth? Does it feel hot?

It is not connected to the truck via BT. I just plugged in,and that’s it. Doesn’t feel hot.

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mardybum:
Had similar in a ‘14 DAF XF SSC, fried my battery in the end on an iPhone 8.

Not much help, but it’s obviously DAF related

It must be some cr@ppy daf thing then. I may better off if I use the DIN socket(24V socket) instead of the 12V. Just need to get a DIN plug.

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Is it a genuine samsung cable, I only ask as I had a non genuine samsung cable and it would charge the phone about 2% over several hours, when using a genuine cable it took about an hour.
Hope this helps.

Sent using smoke signals

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N0rbert:
Hi Everybody
my Samsung Galaxy S5 mobile does not charge in the DAF CF 2017 unit. Tried multiple units, it’s the same. It’s showing it’s charging, but battery goes flat, like it wouldn’t be on the charger at all. I had this mobile in Scanias, and many cars, vans, and never had any problem with it. Used two different cigarette lighter to USB adapters, both doing the same. If I plug the phone to the original mains charger, or in my car it’s fine.
I can assume it’s the cr@ppy daf traktor unit.
Any advice?

Defect it mate.

Or charge your phone before you go to work.

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lizard:
(…)when using a genuine cable it took about an hour.

It’s charges fast everywhere else than in the 12V socket in a DAF CF '17 plate traktor unit. The cable is fine. It’s the DAF truck.

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Jimmy McNulty:
(…)Defect it mate.(…)

I’ve got banned from Argos for hesitating 20 min before taking it to the road, that had a faulty cigarette lighter socket. It’s not just one. All of it does the same way.

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N0rbert:

lizard:
(…)when using a genuine cable it took about an hour.

It’s charges fast everywhere else than in the 12V socket in a DAF CF '17 plate traktor unit. The cable is fine. It’s the DAF truck.

Try the usb port on the radio, if it has one

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idrive:
(…)Try the usb port on the radio, if it has one

That’s in use cos I listen to MP3 via USB, but those USB outlets usually has low power outputs. It wouldn’t be able to fast charge a phone.

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I found that the cigarette lighter socket is slightly deeper than other units, I wiggled the adapter out slightly and my phone charges no problem

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

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Not sure if this is helpful but I bought a small powerbank from Currys for this very reason it was about £20 its a Sandstrom one. My phone was charging so slow through the USB port that the battery still went down and the 12v kept getting quite hot when charging and still seemed to take forever to charge, my phone charges quicker from the power bank than anything else I’ve tried and I can charge the power bank through the 12v without an issue (strange!)

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Could be the cigarette socket is dead but picking up a phantom voltage from other cables next to its own. Which is enough to trick the phone in to thinking it’s plugged in, but there will be no current to do anything useful.

I didn’t know about phantom voltage until I isolated a circuit in my house and still saw significant voltage there.

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Had/ have a similar problem with mine. Now use a conversion socket in the hella connection . (12[v) it works perfect .

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stuwozere1:
(…) I wiggled(…)

Hi stuwozere,

thanks for the answer, but the company has 50+ trucks, and it’s the same in all of them. It’s a design fault, not an isolated fault, or loose connection, or stray voltage.
It does charge my dashcam in all units, but the phone does not wanna charge(it’s showing charging, but battery goes flat)

Ordered a HELLA/DIN to cigarette lighter from Ebay, and that will run on the 24V outlet,not from the 12V. I think Daf using some cr@ppy 24V to 12V converters in the units, and the phone does not like it.

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sunsetdriving:
small powerbank from Currys(…)

Hi sunsetdriving

I have a power bank, but I don’t want to charge that too in every morning. I should be able to power it without problem.
Ordered a HELLA/DIN plug, and that will use the 24V outlet. I hope that will fix it.

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syramax:
(…) hella connection(…)

Hi syramax

that’s what I did. It’s on the way, from Ebay. The HELLA/DIN is 24V on Dafs, not 12V.
Does that cut the power when you take the keys out, or does it stay on all the time(like in Scanias) ?

Here is how it looks like: