just thinking why are so many drivers these days in such a panic about minor infringements? Is it a company letter-signing thing, or do they have nightmares of being in a jail cell circa 1800s due to going over your time by 5mins? Our lot are a small family-run firm and the tm is a director but has worked his way up from drivers mate so knows the score. Its a simple do a couple of printouts with your reason (in our case usually running over due to no parking room with ab load on) one for your diary and one for tm. He has actually done one before and wrote on it ‘went over time to park somewhere with toilets as in violation of human rights to be without’. I’ve run over due to rta, traffic holding me up on way to pre-booked accommodation (day cab) roadworks with a diversion not suitable for my width. Anyone had any unusual ones?
that’s just it mate, you and your’s have used common sense where the vast majority don’t even know what it is… 
wide-load85:
just thinking why are so many drivers these days in such a panic about minor infringements?
I don’t believe many drivers do panic over minor infringements, on this board a driver only has to ask a question about a potential infringement and a some people seem to assume the driver is panicking.
There have been a few people who have obviously been panicked by minor infringements but I’m pretty certain you’ll find most people who ask about them just want to know what to do about them.
I got in through the gates with a minute of driving time left today. I was panicking a bit because I have a full time job pretty much lined up and I know they’re strict about infringements. Best they download my card and don’t see any.
If I was staying on agency for longer, I’d not have been as worried. The fewer infringements accumulated the better though. Less explaining to do. I like to stay under the radar as much as possible.
I think that too many drivers just take it all far too seriously, and crap themselves if they go over their time…just look at past posts on here, nothing wrong with asking, but ffs…some of them. 
Some firms capitalise on this by being over pedantic on trivialities, and carry on the charade, until many gullible drivers believe it all…it keeps em on their toes, is the way they see it, and it more often than not succeeds in doing so (re.the previous post^^^) so we have the likes of non job compliance wonker types to oversee it all.
The way I see it, DVSA ain’t interested in genuine mistakes or misdemeanors, and as long as you take steps to cover your arse, it’s a non event, it’s the habitual ■■■■ takers and law benders and breakers they are after. 
I also have driven over my 9 hours to avoid parking in a lay by, quite a few times, and explained on a printout why,… (as for doing it over a 10? I reckon they may take a dim view of it, but some idiots see it as a weekly target instead of a facility to avoid negativities, so they end up going over regular )
I try and keep my card right, and generally succeed so (maybe apart from all that wtd ■■■■■■■■, that ain’t even monitored by authorities anyway )
I only know what I need to know on drivers hours regs and rules, as I ain’t interested enough to go in to the over the top intricacies of all that ■■■■ dog ■■■■, and I’m a strong believer that it should all be simplified.
SJB:
I got in through the gates with a minute of driving time left today. I was panicking a bit because I have a full time job pretty much lined up and I know they’re strict about infringements. Best they download my card and don’t see any.If I was staying on agency for longer, I’d not have been as worried. The fewer infringements accumulated the better though. Less explaining to do. I like to stay under the radar as much as possible.
please tell me this is a windup.
gingo:
SJB:
I got in through the gates with a minute of driving time left today. I was panicking a bit because I have a full time job pretty much lined up and I know they’re strict about infringements. Best they download my card and don’t see any.If I was staying on agency for longer, I’d not have been as worried. The fewer infringements accumulated the better though. Less explaining to do. I like to stay under the radar as much as possible.
please tell me this is a windup.
Yep, this is what some of em are like…1 minute over, and it’s a problem. ffs.
Personally I would not want a job with a firm who were as strict (and no doubt up their own arses) as much as that.
Shouldn’t be going 1 minute over unless it’s due to exceptional circumstances. Down to bad planning and time management if you do.
SJB:
I got in through the gates with a minute of driving time left today. I was panicking a bit because I have a full time job pretty much lined up and I know they’re strict about infringements. Best they download my card and don’t see any.If I was staying on agency for longer, I’d not have been as worried. The fewer infringements accumulated the better though. Less explaining to do. I like to stay under the radar as much as possible.
This says it all Under The Radar
I’ve only been driving commercially two weeks. Do I want to get infringements unnecessarily? Do I want to have negative interactions with any management re: infringements when I could avoid it in the first place? Not really. As a new driver I am trying to make as few mistakes as possible, and draw as little negative attention to myself as possible, I’m looking to be kept on where I’m working now, OR get taken on at the other place, not build up a ■■■■ reputation before I’ve barely started, what’s wrong with that.
I got within a minute of my driving time today because I came across a 3 ton bridge and had to drive longer than expected to find a legal way round it. If I didn’t make it to the yard I was delivering to with that minute to spare then I’d either be getting an infringement or a parking ticket (London) so yeah, I don’t think I am the only new driver that would’ve been a little stressed.
SJB:
I’ve only been driving commercially two weeks. Do I want to get infringements unnecessarily? Do I want to have negative interactions with any management re: infringements when I could avoid it in the first place? Not really. As a new driver I am trying to make as few mistakes as possible, and draw as little negative attention to myself as possible, I’m looking to be kept on where I’m working now, OR get taken on at the other place, not build up a [zb] reputation before I’ve barely started, what’s wrong with that.I got within a minute of my driving time today because I came across a 3 ton bridge and had to drive longer than expected to find a legal way round it. If I didn’t make it to the yard I was delivering to with that minute to spare then I’d either be getting an infringement or a parking ticket (London) so yeah, I don’t think I am the only new driver that would’ve been a little stressed.
That’s the point mate, getting a minor infringement aint worth bothering your arse about, and even if you have to explain/answer to management, what is the worst they can do.
Concentrate on serious mistakes, like trying not to balls up in an epic way instead.
This job (and life) can be stressful.enough without giving undue credence to trivial matters.
I know you are new, I ain’t, so take (or leave) my advice, …chill out and take things about this job more in your stride, it makes for a quieter and less stressful life in this crap job.
A minor infringement here and there isn’t a big deal but if you’re getting them every day or every week and doing that week in, week out then it becomes a big deal because you’re demonstrating a wilful ignoring of the drivers hours and that you don’t take them seriously and at some point you’ll come across someone from the enforcement side who decides you’ve got enough to bring a case against you.
SJB:
I’ve only been driving commercially two weeks. Do I want to get infringements unnecessarily? Do I want to have negative interactions with any management re: infringements when I could avoid it in the first place? Not really. As a new driver I am trying to make as few mistakes as possible, and draw as little negative attention to myself as possible, I’m looking to be kept on where I’m working now, OR get taken on at the other place, not build up a [zb] reputation before I’ve barely started, what’s wrong with that.I got within a minute of my driving time today because I came across a 3 ton bridge and had to drive longer than expected to find a legal way round it. If I didn’t make it to the yard I was delivering to with that minute to spare then I’d either be getting an infringement or a parking ticket (London) so yeah, I don’t think I am the only new driver that would’ve been a little stressed.
4.29 total drive,I would have had a 30 break on the way back,no sweat.
bobbya:
SJB:
I’ve only been driving commercially two weeks. Do I want to get infringements unnecessarily? Do I want to have negative interactions with any management re: infringements when I could avoid it in the first place? Not really. As a new driver I am trying to make as few mistakes as possible, and draw as little negative attention to myself as possible, I’m looking to be kept on where I’m working now, OR get taken on at the other place, not build up a [zb] reputation before I’ve barely started, what’s wrong with that.I got within a minute of my driving time today because I came across a 3 ton bridge and had to drive longer than expected to find a legal way round it. If I didn’t make it to the yard I was delivering to with that minute to spare then I’d either be getting an infringement or a parking ticket (London) so yeah, I don’t think I am the only new driver that would’ve been a little stressed.
4.29 total drive,I would have had a 30 break on the way back,no sweat.
Yep me too, and if they were stressing to get the truck back?
Tough ■■■■,… they should have planned the job for adequate time to do it in.
If you’re stupid enough to achieve their too tight schedules, they’ll continue to set them for you.
bobbya:
SJB:
I’ve only been driving commercially two weeks. Do I want to get infringements unnecessarily? Do I want to have negative interactions with any management re: infringements when I could avoid it in the first place? Not really. As a new driver I am trying to make as few mistakes as possible, and draw as little negative attention to myself as possible, I’m looking to be kept on where I’m working now, OR get taken on at the other place, not build up a [zb] reputation before I’ve barely started, what’s wrong with that.I got within a minute of my driving time today because I came across a 3 ton bridge and had to drive longer than expected to find a legal way round it. If I didn’t make it to the yard I was delivering to with that minute to spare then I’d either be getting an infringement or a parking ticket (London) so yeah, I don’t think I am the only new driver that would’ve been a little stressed.
4.29 total drive,I would have had a 30 break on the way back,no sweat.
It appears to me, the OP arrived at his tip on 4-29 after encountering a weight limit. Since in London nowhere to park.
Seems we could all be wise after the event.
.
And what use is just taking a 30min break?
If you know the OP had already had a 15, you know more than me*.
*more than possible of course
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tachograph:
wide-load85:
just thinking why are so many drivers these days in such a panic about minor infringements?I don’t believe many drivers do panic over minor infringements, on this board a driver only has to ask a question about a potential infringement and a some people seem to assume the driver is panicking.
There have been a few people who have obviously been panicked by minor infringements but I’m pretty certain you’ll find most people who ask about them just want to know what to do about them.
Agreed. It is the attitude of the company that is important and that causes the concern. I work mainly for a large outfit who seem to blatantly disregard the rule regarding ‘can’t access the tacho to select correct mode issue - [do a print out with an explanation as per vosa advice]’
Seems the Linde Group at Eurocentral will decide is is an infringement regardless even when caused by their own work practices! Berks.
SJB here’s some advice on the matter. Don’t listen to anyone here, apart from what I say now. To be bothering about even minor infringements means you DO have the correct and PROFESSIONAL attitude towards the job and means you take pride in it. Are you going to go to prison or even get fined if you get a pull and they fined you’ve been over your drive time by 1 minute on 1 occasion. No your not. However, if you get a pull and you’ve got a whole string of these odd minutes showing up because your like some on here thinking ah it doesn’t matter it’s on a minute they could well see you as a driver who’s just out to give a middle finger to the rules and take the ■■■■, and the CAN fine you for them even just for the 1 minute if the officer is in that sort of mood. Just don’t go over and take your required breaks unless it’s exceptional circumstances.
Rowley010:
Don’t listen to anyone here, apart from what I say now. .
Franglais:
It appears to me, the OP arrived at his tip on 4-29 after encountering a weight limit. Since in London nowhere to park.
Seems we could all be wise after the event.
.
And what use is just taking a 30min break?
If you know the OP had already had a 15, you know more than me*.*more than possible of course
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The op put a picture up that showed 3 minutes current break and 18 minutes total break, meaning they’d already taken a 15. 
Franglais:
bobbya:
SJB:
I’ve only been driving commercially two weeks. Do I want to get infringements unnecessarily? Do I want to have negative interactions with any management re: infringements when I could avoid it in the first place? Not really. As a new driver I am trying to make as few mistakes as possible, and draw as little negative attention to myself as possible, I’m looking to be kept on where I’m working now, OR get taken on at the other place, not build up a [zb] reputation before I’ve barely started, what’s wrong with that.I got within a minute of my driving time today because I came across a 3 ton bridge and had to drive longer than expected to find a legal way round it. If I didn’t make it to the yard I was delivering to with that minute to spare then I’d either be getting an infringement or a parking ticket (London) so yeah, I don’t think I am the only new driver that would’ve been a little stressed.
4.29 total drive,I would have had a 30 break on the way back,no sweat.
It appears to me, the OP arrived at his tip on 4-29 after encountering a weight limit. Since in London nowhere to park.
Seems we could all be wise after the event.
.
And what use is just taking a 30min break?
If you know the OP had already had a 15, you know more than me*.It shows 18 break on his dash in the photo,excluding the three minutes he’s sat doesn’t that mean he’s already had a 15?,could be wrong,but why break your neck to get back with a minute to spare anyway?I’m paid by the hour,no stress involved it’s their time and they pay for it.
*more than possible of course
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