Macski:
[? It is great for the vehicles in lane two but lane one is growing longer not only because the vehicles at the head of the queue are creating gaps, it is slower.
If I am wrong again I will point out that traffic usually runs fairly smoothly once it has been filtered into the restricted lanes, instead of resonding with things like WHOOOOOSH… explain?
The key to it, is for the queues in lanes 1 and 2 to be equal length at all times. Then you won’t have lane one growing longer. You have vehicles merge one for one at the head of the queue, not pushing in early, and then both queues remain the same length and everyone spends the same time queuing.
If at the head of the queue the traffic can travel faster, then the gaps will appear naturally and nobody will have to slow down.
Macski:
[? It is great for the vehicles in lane two but lane one is growing longer not only because the vehicles at the head of the queue are creating gaps, it is slower.
If I am wrong again I will point out that traffic usually runs fairly smoothly once it has been filtered into the restricted lanes, instead of resonding with things like WHOOOOOSH… explain?
The key to it, is for the queues in lanes 1 and 2 to be equal length at all times. Then you won’t have lane one growing longer. You have vehicles merge one for one at the head of the queue, not pushing in early, and then both queues remain the same length and everyone spends the same time queuing.
If at the head of the queue the traffic can travel faster, then the gaps will appear naturally and nobody will have to slow down.
You are wasting your time.
It’s like trying to explain how leaving the lock gates open on a river lock, after you exit, makes life easier for every boater. The few (usually canal) boaters who are so stuck on the canal rule of “closing the gates behind you” (which is for water conservation), get really upset if you tell them that you leave the gates open on the river. They are indignant, because they only see that occasionally, they may need to close a gate, “when you should have done so…”. There is a step by step explanation to show how it benefits all boaters, evry time, but they are utterly fixated on “having to do something extra that you should have done…”
What about a few hundred meters/yards before the lane closure have a chicane in the middle. This way the left lane traffic has to steer slightly to the right and right lane traffic has to steer slightlly left. In this scenario no one can falsely claim “ownership” of the traffic lane.
Macski:
[? It is great for the vehicles in lane two but lane one is growing longer not only because the vehicles at the head of the queue are creating gaps, it is slower.
If I am wrong again I will point out that traffic usually runs fairly smoothly once it has been filtered into the restricted lanes, instead of resonding with things like WHOOOOOSH… explain?
The key to it, is for the queues in lanes 1 and 2 to be equal length at all times. Then you won’t have lane one growing longer. You have vehicles merge one for one at the head of the queue, not pushing in early, and then both queues remain the same length and everyone spends the same time queuing.
If at the head of the queue the traffic can travel faster, then the gaps will appear naturally and nobody will have to slow down.
Ok sorry for being stubern and sticking to my point, but
if you have a 100 vehicles say 15 ft each you need a gap between each vehicle say 15ft so they don’t run into each other, so if they are in one lane that is a queue of 3000ft, now if you split them into two lanes you have a queue of 1500ft, yes great, you halved the queue, wonderful, but now lane two is closed and you have to get the vehicles from lane two into one, how do you get the done if both lanes are traveling at same speed and are equal length■■?
From the AAs website, taken from the highway code -
Slow, stop-start traffic
Where traffic is queuing and moving slowly you should use all available road space in both lanes with drivers at the front of the queues taking it in turns to ‘merge in turn’ or ‘zip merge’ as the Americans call it. This can help reduce the overall length of the queue significantly and minimises the risk of disruption at junctions further back up the road.
Macski:
[? It is great for the vehicles in lane two but lane one is growing longer not only because the vehicles at the head of the queue are creating gaps, it is slower.
If I am wrong again I will point out that traffic usually runs fairly smoothly once it has been filtered into the restricted lanes, instead of resonding with things like WHOOOOOSH… explain?
The key to it, is for the queues in lanes 1 and 2 to be equal length at all times. Then you won’t have lane one growing longer. You have vehicles merge one for one at the head of the queue, not pushing in early, and then both queues remain the same length and everyone spends the same time queuing.
If at the head of the queue the traffic can travel faster, then the gaps will appear naturally and nobody will have to slow down.
Ok sorry for being stubern and sticking to my point, but
if you have a 100 vehicles say 15 ft each you need a gap between each vehicle say 15ft so they don’t run into each other, so if they are in one lane that is a queue of 3000ft, now if you split them into two lanes you have a queue of 1500ft, yes great, you halved the queue, wonderful, but now lane two is closed and you have to get the vehicles from lane two into one, how do you get the done if both lanes are traveling at same speed and are equal length■■?
The traffic in one lane after the merge will naturally travel faster than the traffic in 2 lanes that have yet to merge.
Even if that means the traffic in the 2 lanes have to slow to a crawl.
There is no magic that if only traffic got into one lane earlier there would be no queue. You would just have one long queue and people overtaking and joining at the front. The only fair solution is to join the shortest queue.
Negan:
The trick is not to force yourself in. You need to prepare and take it slow.
Just gently nudge around an opening then ease in ever so gently and youll find yourself in with no damage.
Dont just bang right in without taking care or someone could get hurt.
Just make sure if you see an opening you check its the one you try to enter and you dont go for the wrong one or there could be a lot of swearing and yelling.
Follow these tips and a pleasurable experinece will be had by all
See I know how it works in theory and it kind of works in town if the merge lane is long enouth and there isn’t much traffic around.
The consept fails in practice especially were there are lane closures, because it depends on the open lane moving slower then the merge lane, it also depends on people leaving room for the vehicles to merge, so you have actually slowed down the open lane and the vehicles in the second lane still need the room in the open lane.
How often do you get to roadwork for example and there is a queue, once the traffic has merged it is moving again freely.
WHOOOOOSH…
OK What happens in traffic when one vehicle slows down? You get a phantom traffic jam where the vehicles behind slow down more and mre until the vehicles are coming to a stop.
Note the cars in left lane need to creat a space for the vehicles in the right lane, so they need to slow down and creat a gaps so car one slows down by 2mph for example and lets car in from right, car two then has to slow down by more to creat another gap, car three is slowing down again more so what happens several vehicles along the line? It is great for the vehicles in lane two but lane one is growing longer not only because the vehicles at the head of the queue are creating gaps, it is slower.
If I am wrong again I will point out that traffic usually runs fairly smoothly once it has been filtered into the restricted lanes, instead of resonding with things like WHOOOOOSH… explain?
Macski, you completely failed to read Negan’s hilarious post, therefore I replied WHOOOOOSH…and now you’ve asked me to explain - WHOOOOOSH again!
Now where’s Geoffrey with the definitive answer to this problem?
Macski, you completely failed to read Negan’s hilarious post, therefore I replied WHOOOOOSH…and now you’ve asked me to explain - WHOOOOOSH again!
Now where’s Geoffrey with the definitive answer to this problem?
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Shuddup willya.
explain?