Mayor to block Port Of Calais

[j_k]

dieseldog999:
try this…just prison population as a whole, prisonreformtrust.org.uk/Pro … earch/Race , the bottom line is that if they wernt in Britain to start with,then it wouldn’t matter what kind of crime they would commit,as they wouldn’t be here to commit it. if adolf had got his way,then ireland would have capitulated,and there would not be any travellers left as they would all have been at least chemically castrated by now if not just wiped out.and look at the state of eire because of them?http://www.politics.ie/forum/justice/135097-irelands-prison-population-non-irish-nationals-analysis.html im led to believe that of the ones classed as irish in eire,then about 85% of those ones are members of the travelling community,i.e gyppos,tinks,and nakkers . these pollswre taken years ago,so how bad is the problem now ffs!!

Eugenics.
Also involves the culling of disabled people and chemical castration of people with hereditary diseases. Not to mention mental disabilities and other “anti social diseases”.
Bearing in mind that in WW1, Post traumatic stress disorder was labeled “lacking in moral fibre” and the guys would either be dishonourably discharged or shot for cowardice.

Eugenics would have meant a cleaner gene pool and less of a drain on the state but where do you stop? How long before not having blond hair is seen as being worthy of cleansing.

As it goes, I am partially in favour of a eugenics/chinese style system. Certainly for our home grown benefit dwellers.

[stevejones]

mctruck dont think your remarks appropiate. also no one on here has come out with that b…x one thing we still have here is a thing called fairness trust me if u were just doing your job and then got fined 2grand you wouldnt be very happy and you come out with that c…p while a british guy is being held by theese f…s

[dieseldog999]

+1 well said .im sure there would be a queue 100 miles long to apply for the job.

McTruck:
Wow, after reading this forum I am surprised that it hasn’t been suggested that a good solution to end this problem would be to get a few of these people, make them kneel down in front of you in an orange jump suit and before you cut their heads off with a blunt knife, make a speech into the camera warning other people who might be thinking of heading off to Calais to try and gain entry into Britain not to even think about it or they will meet the same faith. Then just post the video on the internet in the hope that it might act as a deterrent and hence solve the problem once and for all.
Apparently if you do this to 30 people you could save yourself around £60,000 in fines, so everyone’s a winner! Happy days.

[j_k]

I emailed all the MEPS for my area this morning.
This is what I sent.

Dear Julia Reid, Clare Moody, Molly Scott Cato and William (The Earl
of) Dartmouth,

I would like to bring to your attention some issues about the illegal
immigrants in Calais.
As a director of a company selling products manufactured in Greece and
Italy, we have many trucks passing through Calais and the reports from
the drivers is, quite frankly, shocking.
They tell me about drivers who are attacked by the immigrants should
they put up any resistance to them breaking into their vehicles. The
Immigrants are even resorting to opening the back doors of slow moving
lorries so they and their friends can climb in while the vehicles are
held up in traffic.
If the driver alerts the French authorities to the presence of
immigrants he is fobbed off and waved through to UK customs. The driver
is liable to a £2000, per immigrant, fine as well as the haulage firm
being liable for the same amount. This if he is caught on UK soil with
said immigrants aboard.
Once you clear UK customs, you are on UK soil.

Firstly, couldn’t an amnesty area be set up for drivers who think they
have illegals aboard to enter, of their own volition, to get the
vehicle and load checked.

Secondly, I would like to know what the UK government intends to do
about this ever increasing problem of illegal immigration into the UK.

Yours sincerely,

This is the reply I got from one of them.

Dear Joe

Thanks for your email raising with me your personal experience of critical situation at Calais, which I agree is of great concern.

The rapid increase in the number of migrants and asylum seekers arriving during the summer has led to a real crisis and I am sorry to say that, rather than working together to resolve the situation, the government of the UK and the local authorities in Calais appear to be playing to their own political audiences while people like yourself, who rely on the port for your business, become the innocent victims of the situation.

There are currently over 1,000 migrants at the port, many of whom are asylum seekers fleeing wars or persecution in Syria, North Africa and Afghanistan. Some are economic migrants. The 27 member states of the EU are all part of an agreement which states that the country where an asylum seeker first arrives should deal with the case although, in practice, this is not what happens. It is frustrating that other countries do not maintain this agreement, although I think we must also admit that our own government has not acted in a way that would be conducive to a co-operative negotiation on this issue of migration. Your idea of a neutral space for drivers to be able to have their vans or lorries checked could form part of such a negotiation.

I think it is important that, where we can, we distinguish those who are seeking a better life from those who fear for their own safety due to political persecution. The latter group enjoy special international protection and the UK has a proud history of accepting them and protecting them. Often they are able to return to their home countries when the conflict they fled from is resolved. Incidentally, you may be interested to learn that the UK receives only 6.89% of refugees hosted by EU members states, compared with 12.5% hosted by the much smaller country of Sweden. Developing countries host at he overwhelming majority of refugees, some 86%.

As Greens we have for some time raised concerns about the rapidly increasing social and economic globalisation which enables people to travel long distances in search of a better life, a quest which is often illusory. We would seek to reduce global inequalities that give rise to this pressure to migrate and would also adopt a less aggressive foreign policy which would reduce the numbers of people forced to migrate for their own safety.

Please be reassured that I have heard your concerns on this matter and will watch for opportunities to support proposals for EU-wide negotiations to arrive at shared solutions to what is very much a shared European problem.

With best wishes

Molly

Molly Scott Cato
Green MEP for South West England and Gibraltar
Green Party Finance Speaker

What immediately grabbed my attention was “Green MEP for South West England and Gibraltar”… Interested to know how they lumped Gib in with the SW

[macplaxton]

J_K:
Interested to know how they lumped Gib in with the SW

Matthews v United Kingdom, European Court of Human Rights ruling on entitlement to vote in Euro elections. Following that decision, the UK government of the time decided to lump it in with another constituency.

[del949]

What grabbed my attention was this

We would seek to reduce global inequalities that give rise to this pressure to migrate

Which could mean bringing them up to our standard of living…OR… lowering us to theirs!

not quite the same thing.

[eddie_snax]

bigvern1:
I find it funny, that the people who know “The best way” to deal with the Calais situation, have never been there. I go through at least twice a week and have never, EVER seen the melee for myself. It’s always quiet as a graveyard. But the thought of Genocide is totally wrong.

So you are suggesting that only drivers who use Calais have the right to be concerned about mass illegal immigration through the port off calais. Ok I’ll not care about the numerous criminals amongst them, who will gain access to this country in an uncontrolled manner, and knowone can say that there arent crimnals amongst them, because its uncontrolled so we dont who they are, or what they maybe capable off.

We all have valid concerns about them, wether continental driver or just hacked off with being doormat Britain

Ps havent been to Calais for over 20 years, and have no inteintion off going back anytime soon, if at all

Much better when Dover did unnacompanied trailers

[mctruck]

OK, for those who don’t do irony or whose sarcasm detector might be a little flunked, let me be clear,
I don’t believe that these people who are tormenting drivers in Calais should be gassed, murdered or beheaded.
I don’t believe professional truck drivers should behave like animals and copy methods used by Nazis or the Taliban/ IS as a means of dealing with a problem.
Unfortunately the world is a bit of a mess right now and there are lots of countries trying to deal with an in flux of refugees, asylum seekers, illegal aliens, call them what you will. Italy, Spain, USA, Australia, to name but a few who are experiencing it as bad, if not far worse than the UK.
While I don’t claim to have all the answers on how to deal with the problem, I sure as hell am glad some of the contributors on this thread aren’t elected officials.
I also know that I nearly threw up when I saw that video of the three fellow innocent truck drivers being executed in the middle of the desert in Iraq by those Islamic terrorist scum bags and I have no problem admitting that if I lived in any of those hell holes, I would probably be one of those tormenting individuals that we speak about in Calais.
I can also accept that however bad we think we might have it, we could have it far, far worse.
Anyway this is only my humble opinion and sure what would I know? I’m only a truck driver.

[dieseldog999]

+1 dead on correct there…that’s why I left uk mainland and ended up over in Ireland where il be dead before the place gets overrun[ the way the uk is now, if there 1600 in Calais just now,then that’s a floating pool of 1600,as some make it over here,then they will be immediately topped up to make sure theres always plenty to get across.if it wasn’t for the fact that theres an open arm welcome here with a happy giro,then by definition alone,asylum seekers should stop once the 1st border they cross isn’t at war with them, and not keep travelling through 5 or 6 countries to queue up to be smuggled over here with the vast majority being single young men with mobile phones and adibok trainers … quote=“stevejones”]doesnt matter if theres 1600 immigrants in calais or 1 of them they are trying to get into uk for 1 reason ponce of the state .then learn all our loopholes and send for family and friends . unfortuanetly me or anyone else are not going to stop it so bend over because this great island is f…d
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[emwmarine]

switchlogic:

villa:

switchlogic:

villa:
ok so why do all these people from africa and asia travel all the way to france but dont want to stay in france
they are desperate to get into britain
yes its cos we are a soft touch , they will get money for nothing in the form of benefits and accommodation from local goverment funded councils
the only way to stop it is either france to start giving them the same benefits etc as we do
or we give them sod all like the french do
the EU are quick enough to constantly force every country in the EU to follow the same directives ,drivers hours and the CPC for examples
so to stop these migrants travelling through europe desperate to get to britain
the EU needs to introduce a directive where migrants or asylum seekers recieve the same help in EVERY european country
INCLUDING FRANCE

France has way way more illegal immigrants than us, you just don’t hear about them. As does Germany. I know this in an inconvenient fact when people want to plead ‘poor us, they all want to come to Britain’ but there we go.

yes france does ,but they are only using it as a temporary stop gap before they attempt to get in the trailers of british artic hgvs to take them to the country of thier dreams ,England , there is no incentive for them to remain in france

Yeah of,course, every illegal immigrant wants to come here. All of them, probably most of the world wants to come here…

There’s 1,600 immigrants in Calais. That’s a drop in the ocean. Yes its a problem that needs sorting, but this whole ‘poor us we’ve got it so bad’ British attitude is hilarious when you look at the actual figures and where the illegal immigrants are throughout Europe. If you think none stay in France I can only assume you’ve never spent any length of time in France

I can’t see why they want to come to England. London where most end up is a dirty, smelly place. If I had to leave my original country and travelled through europe it would take a lot to drag me out of France.

[bald_bloke]

Here’s a new development we are splashing out £12,000,000…bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29294776

[raymundo]

England can afford it now that the Scottish oil revenue will continue to be stolen by those down south …

[stevejones]

here we go same old f…ng crap from the racists few .we drilled 4 it why u were sitting on your a… .u lost your vote because your fellow scottish men/women voted to stay in uk so ■■■■ it up buttercup find something else to slag us of about

[raymundo]

stevejones:
here we go same old f…ng crap from the racists few .we drilled 4 it why u were sitting on your a… .u lost your vote because your fellow scottish men/women voted to stay in uk so ■■■■ it up buttercup find something else to slag us of about

Oooooh ! bit touchy aren’t we ?

[royhebb2]

pierrot 14:

green456:
If the French don’t want them in France then they should strengthen there own borders and prevent them getting in, not as they currently do, let them in the back door and then open the front door and let them back out to blighty

Ah, but, if my memory serves me right, there are no borders “within” Europe. So look at a map of the said continent and tell me who really should tighten up their borders, rather than putting the blame on the French politicians, the French authorities and the French Gendarmerie.
Do you really think that the people of Calais, Cherbourg, Dieppe or Le Havre really want these scrotes hanging around their, what should be, perfectly peaceful towns
I’m sorry but we need to ask
WHY these unfortunates are in the north of France (they certainly haven’t come for a holiday).
WHY are they so intent on getting to the UK
WHY haven’t they resided in a country en route
I have my ideas on those questions, but if I posted them you would say that I was biased, so I will let you all ponder on them for a while and you can answer them all yourselves.
Just remember, don’t put the blame on France, these miscreants, refugees, call them what you will, have travelled through quite a few countries to get to a stretch of water, that on the other side they see as a Utopia. France did not invite them here

RANT OVER

totally agree with you pierrot, what would we do if we had illegals wanting to leave here and go to france would we try and stop them. I don’t think so,its a problem that we should be helping the French to solve, its easy to say stop them getting into france, but its not because of the size of their border, its a problem that cant be solved unless we let it be known that the uk is not a land of milk and honey.

[bigvern1]

I never said this isn’t happening. I said I haven’t seen it…YET!

[bigvern1]

eddie snax:

bigvern1:
I find it funny, that the people who know “The best way” to deal with the Calais situation, have never been there. I go through at least twice a week and have never, EVER seen the melee for myself. It’s always quiet as a graveyard. But the thought of Genocide is totally wrong.

So you are suggesting that only drivers who use Calais have the right to be concerned about mass illegal immigration through the port off calais. Ok I’ll not care about the numerous criminals amongst them, who will gain access to this country in an uncontrolled manner, and knowone can say that there arent crimnals amongst them, because its uncontrolled so we dont who they are, or what they maybe capable off.

We all have valid concerns about them, wether continental driver or just hacked off with being doormat Britain

Ps havent been to Calais for over 20 years, and have no inteintion off going back anytime soon, if at all

Much better when Dover did unnacompanied trailers

I haven’t suggested anything.

[muckles]

bigvern1:
I never said this isn’t happening. I said I haven’t seen it…YET!

Funny you should say that, I’ve haven’t seen any of the problems in Calais that seem to be reported either. Been there at least 4 times in the last month.
I’ve seen a few more dodgy looking people wandering around and further away form the port than before, but not hoards of them. The only thing I would say is that I use the tunnel not the ferry and maybe they think they stand a better chance at the port as the truck slow down outside the port or they’re hanging around parking areas.

[contraflow]

McTruck:
I also know that I nearly threw up when I saw that video of the three fellow innocent truck drivers being executed in the middle of the desert in Iraq by those Islamic terrorist scum bags…

Just seen that myself.