NewLad:
Like I said every MAKE bar Hino, Scania IMO are on a par with Iveco, except Iveco’s tend to pull better
lol, you sure know it all don’t you 
lankyphil:
NewLad:
God 1500 more piles of [zb] on the roads and most of them will be G cabs ha ha ha.Really? What makes you think that? All Scanias on general haulage are R440s or R420s. Only Tesco and Chilled (or Fresh Network or whatever its called now) have G series 4 wheelers.
Never seen a Jenkinsons G series either, all their Scanias are R440s in my experience.
NewLad:
Sorry I was still in 2013 in my head!
I passed my class 2 in August 2012, and my class 1 in July 2013.You like to assume a lot of things don’t you! Just because I said I passed my class 2, you assume I don’t have class one. (Not that I personally see what difference it makes, if it was a class 2, or class 1, G Cab were on about!)
Well to start off with, I’ve never noticed a Rigid (Class 2 or Cat C) G series. Only ever seen a rigid with a P Series cab on it. So given your last statement was that you have only passed your class 2, hence my scepticism about your views on it. You also say you’ve driven every make apart from Hino, but then tell us that you’ve never driven an Axor?
NewLad:
Also since when has the interior (which is after all what we’re on about, the hump) been any different in a class 2 motor, or is a rigid not classed as hgv’s in your eyes?We have Merc Axor 1840 auto rest cab artics and some 1822 manual day cab Rigids at work. The artics are awful and I can’t get comfy in them, but the rigids aren’t as bad and I can survive a day in one. So yes, I think there can be a bit of a difference.
Sacrilege time, I prefer the G series to the R series. The engine hump is quite useful for all my paperwork and PODs etc. R series you have to leave everything on the floor, slightly more awkward to grab things to check timings and addresses etc.
Have to agree with everything Lanky said there I’m afraid. Sounds to me like its Newlad who’s getting his frilly curtains in a twist!
mrx:
There’re going bust
Only get jobs undercutting
Owned by tescoAnd doing bloody well lol
ESL aren’t owned by Tesco. Tesco work is only about 30% of the company.
Donnyboy:
Can’t remember who it is for but they got a steel contract lot of it goes into London on stretched flats. Probably another contract they under cut someone on
Was talking to one of there drivers on the train today.I noticed alot of stobarts going up the corridor.He said they have won a contract to pull steel from somewhere in Europe . Can’t remember were he said now.Alot of work though he said.
As they only tend to keep the lease vehicles for 3 or so years, I can’t see much benefit to buying euro 6 trucks. The extra cost versus the resale can’t be worth it.
NewLad:
God 1500 more piles of [zb] on the roads and most of them will be G cabs ha ha ha. Got more hump than the Mrs with PMT.Anyone who thinks Stobart is going away is going to be sadly mistaken, this order shows massive investment.
Shunting trucks in & out of the workshop doesn’t really count as experience driving them mate. You recon Scania is on par with Iveco? Sorry like but ur full of ■■■■ & obviously haven’t done much work on them other than general servicing. In my experience driving & fitting they are the easiest truck to work on & only a Volvo/ Renault with ishift is better to drive on the road.
m1cks:
As they only tend to keep the lease vehicles for 3 or so years, I can’t see much benefit to buying euro 6 trucks. The extra cost versus the resale can’t be worth it.
The ones in our yard are in such a mess ( damage) that they either had to repair them or replace them, from my understanding there going to replace them,I personally would of said you made your bed you can lie in it,but it’s not good for company image too have trucks driving round with gaffa tape holding bumper,mirrors,aero kit together,cable tied bumpers etc as well,every corner damaged,
It’s embarrassing to drive them at times,the state of them,some driver just couldn’t give a zb,find it funny they’ve ripped the bumper apart,then there going to give them new ones to do the same too,beggars belief really,but image is all
truckers boy:
NewLad:
God 1500 more piles of [zb] on the roads and most of them will be G cabs ha ha ha. Got more hump than the Mrs with PMT.Anyone who thinks Stobart is going away is going to be sadly mistaken, this order shows massive investment.
Shunting trucks in & out of the workshop doesn’t really count as experience driving them mate. You recon Scania is on par with Iveco? Sorry like but ur full of [zb] & obviously haven’t done much work on them other than general servicing. In my experience driving & fitting they are the easiest truck to work on & only a Volvo/ Renault with ishift is better to drive on the road.
Think you’ll find that New Lad has very little experience as a fitter tbh.
Could be the fact that he’s a driver I reckon! 
the maoster:
truckers boy:
NewLad:
God 1500 more piles of [zb] on the roads and most of them will be G cabs ha ha ha. Got more hump than the Mrs with PMT.Anyone who thinks Stobart is going away is going to be sadly mistaken, this order shows massive investment.
Shunting trucks in & out of the workshop doesn’t really count as experience driving them mate. You recon Scania is on par with Iveco? Sorry like but ur full of [zb] & obviously haven’t done much work on them other than general servicing. In my experience driving & fitting they are the easiest truck to work on & only a Volvo/ Renault with ishift is better to drive on the road.
Think you’ll find that New Lad has very little experience as a fitter tbh.
Could be the fact that he’s a driver I reckon!
Your right, I could do a service on my car, change the pads/discs after that I can’t do anything.
I was for most of my time at co-op in the office on Transport, the Scania’s were off the road the most.
I have driven every moden model of Scania, I hated them all! It’s only an opinion, but it is my opinion none the less.
m1cks:
As they only tend to keep the lease vehicles for 3 or so years, I can’t see much benefit to buying euro 6 trucks. The extra cost versus the resale can’t be worth it.
They basically have them so that scania can have trucks for the 2nd market. Not everyone can afford a brand new truck so stobarts take them use them then give them back good as new with miles on them.
Stresshead:
chaversdad:
There spending money alright, they also have 65 new extendable flat trailers on orderSeen a few flats with steel on last week, who’s contract is this?
Got the Watson steel contract by the reebok Bolton.
I’m slightly puzzled new lad,am I reading you right in saying the scanias you talk of were co-op ones 
fodens were more reliable .
I haven’t been in a coop depot for roughly a year,but up until then all the new coop motors I saw,Arctics/ rig ids were scanias.
Now I’m not being funny but if these scanias were that unreliable why would the coop buy/ lease even more 
.
Surely they’d of gone elsewhere
N.b as I say it’s roughly a year since I’ve been in a coop depot,so maybe there buying policy has changed,if so I apologize.
Re stobarts it seems a Lot of narrow minded people with little knowledge of the job or contract and ALWAYS presuming undercutting was how it was acheived … If they worked for nothing would they be one of the biggest in the uk and if the money was ■■■■■ why is there over 1600 drivers … Get a life and speculate on something u know something about
Stobart didn’t expand through undercutting, but it was able to expand by doing work cheaper than anyone else. It did this by maximising vehicle utilisation.
Stobart’s major expansion in the 1980s was very closely linked to a company called Metal Box, which made cans for the food and drink industry.
Stobart started working for MB, delivering empty cans to food processing plants. They then offered to take away the filled cans and store them until they were needed by wholesalers/retailers. This was a great help to food processors dealing with seasonal crops like peas and beans. They also started delivering the raw materials (metal sheet) needed to make the cans to the Metal Box factory.
They financed the whole enterprise by buying their first warehouse as a derelict building, refurbishing it, then selling it to a property company and leasing it back. This released the capital to do the next warehouse…until they had a chain of them at strategic locations all over the country.
The trucks hardly ran empty at all, because Stobart was integrated into the supply chain. At one point they even used some walking-floor trailers to deliver the sheet metal to Metal Box, because they could be back-loaded with off-cuts and driven back to the steel works where the off-cuts would be put back into the process.
Stobart could do each leg of the journey cheaper than a competitor and still make more profit because the end of one freighted journey became the starting-point for the next…and all this at a time when other operators were making their drivers thumb through old copies of Headlight to look for return loads, then call some dodgy freight forwarder from the pay phone in Kate’s Cabin.
Rumor has it that when a woman asked the young Edward Stobart what his idea of a perfect journey was, he thought for a while, then stuttered:
“W W W Wun w w w w where m m m me l l l l l lurry i i i is l l l l l loaded b b b b both w w w w ways.”
That makes far too much sense for this thread. We all know Stobart is the cause of all that’s wrong with transport… Don’t we? Nobody else has ever taken a contract from another haulier…
You could be forgiven after reading this drivel about “fast eddie” that it was them that invented road transport and only them that 
came up with the idea of loading motors from A to B to C and all other points,and never running empty 
Bollox,umpteen firms long before “fast eddie” came on the scene were doing exactly that,Oh! and not ■■■■■■■ the rates up in the process either I would add 
.Suttons,Robsons,SOM and many many more were running balanced traffic throughout the 50’s/60/s and 70’s and as I have pointed out in an earlier thread,if UG hadn’t bought out Robsons in the late '70’s “the fast one” would never have got a smell at MB so that would shatter the illusion good and proper 
if you don’t mind,some of you “fast eddie” deciples will have us believe that the “fast one” invented the wheel,now that might be just stretching it a bit but if you keep listening to some of the BS thats spouted who knows what wild claims may be made next.Bewick.
Bewick:
You could be forgiven after reading this drivel about “fast eddie” that it was them that invented road transport and only them that
I misread your name as Beswick then 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Beswick
He was well known for his straight-talking, uncompromising style, ability to argue his case stubbornly, and penchant for insulting callers with whom he disagreed or didn’t like.