So, VOSA want us to input manual entries onto our digicards. ■■
why not have a page per day duplicate book with the four modes across 24 hrs ■■
we could then draw a continuous 24 hour line through the relevant modes to show what we had done and fill in our name, vehicle reg, start and finish locations, etc,etc…
WHAT ■■? It’s already been done years ago ■■?
I still don’t know or particularly care how to do a manual entry & I had one of the first Digi card trucks on the road in '06.
Being retired for the last 30 months I may be out of touch,
Manual entries used to be made on the reverse side of the print out or on the reverse side of a spare roll,when your card or tacho head developed a fault whilst you where away from home,or until such time an appointment could be made for repairs or replacement to take place
Manual entries were or are permitted upto a maximum of 15 days.
If the Law has not changed then VOSA are not asking for anything different
I think he is saying that VOSA want drivers to input manual entries onto the digicard by using the input method on the tachograph instead of making written entries onto the roll ■■?
Silver Surfer, I did one manual entry in a new generation tacho fitted to an actros…
next tacho report said i had been on duty all weekend…
no more manual entries for me either,
all i do now is switch to rest mode for a couple of minutes at the end of my shift and make sure its the same at the start of the next one for a couple of minutes before switching to other work for my daily checks.
the vehicle is always available for me at the start of shift, so no need for manual entry.
The law has always required a driver to record all activities including doing manual entries for activities that are not recorded automatically, it’s nothing new so why is it a problem now 
Trukkertone:
Silver Surfer, I did one manual entry in a new generation tacho fitted to an actros…
next tacho report said i had been on duty all weekend…
no more manual entries for me either,
Fair enough, but it’s hardly VOSAs fault that you screwed up a manual entry is it.
Trukkertone:
Silver Surfer, I did one manual entry in a new generation tacho fitted to an actros…
next tacho report said i had been on duty all weekend…
I had the same problem once, always made written entries after that.
Silver_Surfer:
I still don’t know or particularly care how to do a manual entry & I had one of the first Digi card trucks on the road in '06.[/quote
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Ramon123:
Silver_Surfer:
I still don’t know or particularly care how to do a manual entry & I had one of the first Digi card trucks on the road in '06.
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I never do them. Partly because I don’t need to - I get to work, walk to the truck and put my card in - but also because on the odd occasion I have done it the whole process is so staggeringly complicated and labour intensive that I simply didn’t bother after that. I seemed to be sat in the cab for hours, pressing one or other of the buttons on the tachograph as it took me thorugh the previous day’s work in five minute blocks. Why don’t they design these things to be instinctive to use? And why, while we’re on the subject of digital tachos, can they not record activities to a greater level of precision than one minute?
Im glad this subject jas come up, one of my many rants! Who the hell botheres with a manual entry? I turn up work every morning, slap my card in slot one, start country uk, manual entry no, wait 15 mins and do my check then pee off for the days work… even if I had to load my vehicle for 20 minutes, who on earth is gonna start doing a manual entry for that… when ever I get in tbe cab id repeat the same process… too much red tape for my liking.
well said that man!!
Follow rules.when drivers put card in,first must enter correct finish time of last shift.after press to rest.enter correct start time.if between last working shifr and curent day drivers was driving by analog tacho or working somewhere must put between not rest but mode “question”.si
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Trukkertone:
Silver Surfer, I did one manual entry in a new generation tacho fitted to an actros…
next tacho report said i had been on duty all weekend…
no more manual entries for me either,
all i do now is switch to rest mode for a couple of
I imagine it was the extra question the new heads ask you… what were you doing between shifts? Looks like you entered Other Work. I have seen this catch out many a driver. In older heads once you had stated ‘End of Shift’ that was it & it left a blank record between then and you stating ‘Start of Shift’. I always replicate this on the new heads by choosing the ‘?’ symbol as the mode between shifts, regardless of the circumstances so that my records are consistent.
Andrejs:
Follow rules.when drivers put card in,first must enter correct finish time of last shift.after press to rest.enter correct start time.if between last working shifr and curent day drivers was driving by analog tacho or working somewhere must put between not rest but mode “question”.si
mply.
No, the last card withdrawl time is displayed, nothing to answer to. Manual entry no, start country uk… simple, I have my full 4.5 hr / 6hr limit… dont tell me we have to input the question mark for us driving home 
bodycarelad:
Im glad this subject jas come up, one of my many rants! Who the hell botheres with a manual entry? I turn up work every morning, slap my card in slot one, start country uk, manual entry no, wait 15 mins and do my check then pee off for the days work… even if I had to load my vehicle for 20 minutes, who on earth is gonna start doing a manual entry for that… when ever I get in tbe cab id repeat the same process… too much red tape for my liking.
A number of firms like your tacho record to correspond with your clocking in & clocking out record. So if you clocked in at 6am, but didn’t put your card in till ten past, they expect you to show what you were doing for that 10 minutes. Having worked for such firms, I have got into the habit & find it an easy 10 second job.
Also, slightly OT, I question this ‘leaving it for 15 minutes’ lark. I think some drivers/firms are a bit ■■■■ about showing time for your checks, as far as I am aware there is no specified legal requirement for the number of minutes you must show for a check. A vehicle check has never taken me anywhere near 10/15 minutes, especially if it’s a vehicle I am familiar with.
rob22888:
bodycarelad:
Im glad this subject jas come up, one of my many rants! Who the hell botheres with a manual entry? I turn up work every morning, slap my card in slot one, start country uk, manual entry no, wait 15 mins and do my check then pee off for the days work… even if I had to load my vehicle for 20 minutes, who on earth is gonna start doing a manual entry for that… when ever I get in tbe cab id repeat the same process… too much red tape for my liking.A number of firms like your tacho record to correspond with your clocking in & clocking out record. So if you clocked in at 6am, but didn’t put your card in till ten past, they expect you to show what you were doing for that 10 minutes. Having worked for such firms, I have got into the habit & find it an easy 10 second job.
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As it should be too 
rob22888:
bodycarelad:
Im glad this subject jas come up, one of my many rants! Who the hell botheres with a manual entry? I turn up work every morning, slap my card in slot one, start country uk, manual entry no, wait 15 mins and do my check then pee off for the days work… even if I had to load my vehicle for 20 minutes, who on earth is gonna start doing a manual entry for that… when ever I get in tbe cab id repeat the same process… too much red tape for my liking.A number of firms like your tacho record to correspond with your clocking in & clocking out record. So if you clocked in at 6am, but didn’t put your card in till ten past, they expect you to show what you were doing for that 10 minutes. Having worked for such firms, I have got into the habit & find it an easy 10 second job.
Also, slightly OT, I question this ‘leaving it for 15 minutes’ lark. I think some drivers/firms are a bit ■■■■ about showing time for your checks, as far as I am aware there is no specified legal requirement for the number of minutes you must show for a check. A vehicle check has never taken me anywhere near 10/15 minutes, especially if it’s a vehicle I am familiar with.
i suppose it depends on your system of workplace then, I literally turn up and have the keys for my truck, ready loaded every morning. Theres no one in at all its deserted only the drivers.
Well, thats what I used to think regarding the daily checks, takes me 2 mins to check some orange things are flashing and kick a few tyres… but I moved the vehicle after it only recording 9 minutes of other work, I then recieved an infringment from the monthly.booklet printout from our office, which we have to sign for and declare weve understood our mistake.
From then on I leave it between 12-15 minutes, never had a problem since. Maybe its a customary setting programmed by tacho downloader softwares and its the companies discretion regarding adequate time for your checks…
Card in, check lorry, move it somewhere clean to walk around it, have a ■■■■, ready to go. Time taken, less than 10 minutes. At the end of the day my card stays in while I hand in tickets etc until I’m ready to go, then I eject it and walk to the car. No standing around asking about peoples’ days, worrying about loads, truck washing and all the other bull ■■■■ drivers seem obliged to do on their return.
I used to do manual entries but since this having to use this Stoneridge ■■■■■■■■■■■■■ I don’t bother.
Muckaway:
Card in, check lorry, move it somewhere clean to walk around it, have a ■■■■, ready to go. Time taken, less than 10 minutes. At the end of the day my card stays in while I hand in tickets etc until I’m ready to go, then I eject it and walk to the car. No standing around asking about peoples’ days, worrying about loads, truck washing and all the other bull [zb] drivers seem obliged to do on their return.
I used to do manual entries but since this having to use this Stoneridge piece of [zb] I don’t bother.
See I would recieve an infringment if driving was recorded having only just inserted the card… thank god we all have parking bays but literally wherever its parked on my nights out, it has to be checked for 12 mins at least…then driving can be recorded… or 12 mins whilst im getting dressed banging my head on the roof due to the higher bunk on the euro 5 cfs… 