Rip Nelson . All the papers have been expecting a “big news day” any day as they have all been having many extra loads over last few days ready for the Mandela tribute supplements I expect .
A very sad day. A true humanitarian. 
what an amazing man, someone we all respected R I P
A very sad if not unexpected loss of a true hero, visionary and peacemaker.
RIP , he was one of the “crazy ones”, whose vision did change our world .
he will be hoggin the news for days now
He weren’t as snowwhite as everyone makes out… ok he did a little good but look at his x mrs and the rest of em…
Give it some time and the Jimmy Kiddie fiddle crew will pop up …
nick2008:
He weren’t as snowwhite as everyone makes out… ok he did a little good but look at his x mrs and the rest of em…Give it some time and the Jimmy Kiddie fiddle crew will pop up …
Don’t see any posters liking him to Snow White , hid did the crime and paid with time but then had the foresight to try and change the situation in S Africa . This leopard did change its spots , while I will admit to not being a huge fan of the guy he does get my admiration and respect and I hope that others will follow in his footsteps to carry on his legacy .
flat to the mat:
nick2008:
He weren’t as snowwhite as everyone makes out… ok he did a little good but look at his x mrs and the rest of em…Give it some time and the Jimmy Kiddie fiddle crew will pop up …
Don’t see any posters liking him to Snow White , hid did the crime and paid with time but then had the foresight to try and change the situation in S Africa .
He certainly did change the situation in South Africa.
Haha, he changed the situation in SA ■■?, they still live in poverty and like all African countries that gain independence they never prosper cos as I was told when there ‘we don’t have the foresight and knowledge’. Name one African nation that has done well since booting out the ‘ruling overlords’ ?
raymundo:
Haha, he changed the situation in SA ■■?, they still live in poverty and like all African countries that gain independence they never prosper cos as I was told when there ‘we don’t have the foresight and knowledge’. Name one African nation that has done well since booting out the ‘ruling overlords’ ?
That’s what the link shows.What actually happened is that a load of misguided raving lefties helped to put a bunch of marxist despots into power all based on the idea of reverse racism when it suits them.Mandela being one of the leaders of that marxist group.It’s ironic how the idea of an the ethnic minority African American leader is celebrated by the PC lot in the States because of his ethnicity.While an ethnic minority British/Dutch African leadership was considered unacceptable in Rhodesia and South Africa for the same reason.
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Carryfast:
raymundo:
Haha, he changed the situation in SA ■■?, they still live in poverty and like all African countries that gain independence they never prosper cos as I was told when there ‘we don’t have the foresight and knowledge’. Name one African nation that has done well since booting out the ‘ruling overlords’ ?That’s what the link shows.What actually happened is that a load of misguided raving lefties helped to put a bunch of marxist despots into power all based on the idea of reverse racism when it suits them.Mandela being one of the leaders of that marxist group.It’s ironic how the idea of an the ethnic minority African American leader is celebrated by the PC lot in the States because of his ethnicity.While an ethnic minority British/Dutch African leadership was considered unacceptable in Rhodesia and South Africa for the same reason.
Because the minority African American leader in the states isn’t a racist ■■■■■
Honestly I give up.
Silver_Surfer:
Carryfast:
raymundo:
Haha, he changed the situation in SA ■■?, they still live in poverty and like all African countries that gain independence they never prosper cos as I was told when there ‘we don’t have the foresight and knowledge’. Name one African nation that has done well since booting out the ‘ruling overlords’ ?That’s what the link shows.What actually happened is that a load of misguided raving lefties helped to put a bunch of marxist despots into power all based on the idea of reverse racism when it suits them.Mandela being one of the leaders of that marxist group.It’s ironic how the idea of an the ethnic minority African American leader is celebrated by the PC lot in the States because of his ethnicity.While an ethnic minority British/Dutch African leadership was considered unacceptable in Rhodesia and South Africa for the same reason.
Because the minority African American leader in the states isn’t a racist [zb]!
Honestly I give up.
It depends on your definition of ‘racist’.The fact is it’s just typical lefty double standards and reverse racism in the case of it being seen as fine to have an ethnic minority African leader of the US but not an ethnic minority European African one in South Africa or Rhodesia.
It seems like you’re obviously another of those who’s swallowed all the bs communist propaganda.There’s actually more racist violence carried out by the ethnic African community against the ethnic British/Dutch African one with integration than before by the ethnic British/Dutch African one against the ethnic African one before with apartheid.The difference being that the apartheid system was just there to defend the ethnic immigrant European African community against that situation as proved now by the attacks by the indigenous African community on that ethnic European African one.
Why is it obviously in your view supposedly ‘racist’ to want to keep the different ethnic groups seperate while it’s not considered racist to socially engineer ethnic integration on those same ethnic grounds.
It’s actually just the difference between a raving communist agenda and the freedom for different nations to remain different.
While as Raymondo rightly pointed out those African states which are now under ethnic African rule,as opposed to European colonial rule, aren’t exactly a paradise for their populations.With the usual calls for european foreign aid when they start chopping each other up.Or they’re happy enough to want to move to Europe when it all inevitably goes pear shaped when they try to run things,when it suits them and then play the bs race card whenever things don’t go their way when they get here.
Ay up, Carryfast is fighting on two fronts, just like Hitler 
switchlogic:
Ay up, Carryfast is fighting on two fronts, just like Hitler
In more ways than one …
As usual with people like Carryfast, anything that may possibly impinge on the “rights” of comfortably - off middle class white males is racism, whereas genuine civil rights abuses of black people are merely lefty bs propaganda. I’m not going to argue the case for or against Mandela, but the tone of CF’s posts is the usual mix of offensive and staggeringly ill - informed. Coupled with his usual propensity to simply state his point of view repeatedly in an increasingly loud voice, as opposed to engaging in reasoned argument, I think I’m out of this thread too.
Rhythm Thief:
switchlogic:
Ay up, Carryfast is fighting on two fronts, just like HitlerIn more ways than one …
As usual with people like Carryfast, anything that may possibly impinge on the “rights” of comfortably - off middle class white males is racism, whereas genuine civil rights abuses of black people are merely lefty bs propaganda. I’m not going to argue the case for or against Mandela, but the tone of CF’s posts is the usual mix of offensive and staggeringly ill - informed. Coupled with his usual propensity to simply state his point of view repeatedly in an increasingly loud voice, as opposed to engaging in reasoned argument, I think I’m out of this thread too.
No it’s just that I’m well aware of the damage that the bs socialist cause can do to a naive working class that believes any of their zb and that includes the obvious reverse racist angle in your post there.Considering that being the ‘right’ colour obviously matters to you whereas I’m just arguing the case that it’s best all round for the different ideologies and ethnic communities to remain in their right places.Which ironically is what the ANC and Mugabe’s lot are calling for in the case of Africa for the ethnic Africans.But for ‘some’ reason the socialists don’t want that to apply here in the case of Britain for the ethnic British.
Carryfast:
Rhythm Thief:
switchlogic:
Ay up, Carryfast is fighting on two fronts, just like HitlerIn more ways than one …
As usual with people like Carryfast, anything that may possibly impinge on the “rights” of comfortably - off middle class white males is racism, whereas genuine civil rights abuses of black people are merely lefty bs propaganda. I’m not going to argue the case for or against Mandela, but the tone of CF’s posts is the usual mix of offensive and staggeringly ill - informed. Coupled with his usual propensity to simply state his point of view repeatedly in an increasingly loud voice, as opposed to engaging in reasoned argument, I think I’m out of this thread too.
No it’s just that I’m well aware of the damage that the bs socialist cause can do to a naive working class that believes any of their zb and that includes the obvious reverse racist angle in your post there.Considering that being the ‘right’ colour obviously matters to you whereas **I’m just arguing the case that it’s best all round for the different ideologies and ethnic communities to remain in their right places.**Which ironically is what the ANC and Mugabe’s lot are calling for in the case of Africa for the ethnic Africans.But for ‘some’ reason the socialists don’t want that to apply here in the case of Britain for the ethnic British.
Jesus. Not borderline offensive now, but proper, full on NF racism. However, giving you the benefit of the doubt for one more post:
What “reverse racism” angle in my post?
What is the “right place” for different ethnic communities? How far back are you going? Are we talking the Polish immigrants from five or ten years ago, the Windrush- era immigrants, the 1960s Asian immigrants, the fourteenth century Hugenots, the twelfth century Jews, the Danes, the Romans, the Vikings …
And linked to that last point, what are “ethnic British”? You do know that “British” is a nationality, not a race, don’t you?
Apparently the Vernon’s (my surname) came here in the 11th century. I think its time I packed my bags as I’m clearly not welcome. Ill move to Vernon in France and be reunited with my long lost family. Incidentally Carry old bean have you looked into your heritage? I’d hate for it to be found out that you’ve been lobbing bloody great bricks from that greenhouse of yours
Why all the sympathy? he was as bad as the rest of them. Besides, wont do him any good now will it?