Why are lorry drivers always arrested but not car drivers at scenes of accidents?
toby1234abc:
Why are lorry drivers always arrested but not car drivers at scenes of accidents?
Hiya toby. i think if they arrest you, then you’ve got to go to the police station. other wise they can only
ask if you can help with the enquires…you could say no and walk away.not much chance of that happening.
its just how they word things.it may make other parties feel better after a loved one had someone hurt or
worse like in this case.
John
Assuming that it was working correctly, a Highways Agency camera may have recorded everything as it happened. It is situated in a similar position to the camera that took the above shot.
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The reason i asked about car drivers not getting arrested is due to accidents and they go home, a car crashed in to a Kebab shop in Bristol, no charges, if a truck driver did it, he/she would have been arrested.
Dieseldoforme:
Assuming that it was working correctly, a Highways Agency camera may have recorded everything as it happened. It is situated in a similar position to the camera that took the above shot.
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I don’t think that these cameras make videos in that sense. They only make snapshots every certain time… As far as I know. Correct me if I’m wrong. I also have the impression of that the minibus must had been traveling at a very low speed or stationary because it didn’t fly far off so not much initial speed…
dowahdiddyman:
albion1971:
dowahdiddyman:
There are probably only 2 people who know what actually happened, the minibus driver and the truck driver. Oh and they only arrest you for one reason is total crock,one reason they arrest people not because they are guilty but so as to question them under caution,JUST IN CASE IT WAS THERE FAULT.Total crock is it? So from your point of view they will not be questioning the minibus driver? And again from your point of view it can’t be the minibus drivers fault so who’s fault was it?
[/quoteWhere the hell did I say it can`t be the minibus drivers fault,what I said was that they arrest people to question them under caution. Now please get down of your high horse before you get a nose bleed.
You said they arrest people(the lorry driver was arrested) JUST IN CASE IT WAS THEIR FAULT.
So if the minibus driver was not arrested they could not think it was his or her fault.(According to your theory)
Can you understand now why I said what I said and I am not on any high horse as you put it.
is the “mini bus” driver capable of being arrested?
just saying like
HTH
They arrested the lorry driver because the lorry hit the minibus from behind and there were death or serious injuries involved. There are only very rare occasions when the one that was in front comes out as faulty.
albion1971:
dowahdiddyman:
albion1971:
dowahdiddyman:
There are probably only 2 people who know what actually happened, the minibus driver and the truck driver. Oh and they only arrest you for one reason is total crock,one reason they arrest people not because they are guilty but so as to question them under caution,JUST IN CASE IT WAS THERE FAULT.Total crock is it? So from your point of view they will not be questioning the minibus driver? And again from your point of view it can’t be the minibus drivers fault so who’s fault was it?
[/quoteWhere the hell did I say it can`t be the minibus drivers fault,what I said was that they arrest people to question them under caution. Now please get down of your high horse before you get a nose bleed.
You said they arrest people(the lorry driver was arrested) JUST IN CASE IT WAS THEIR FAULT.
So if the minibus driver was not arrested they could not think it was his or her fault.(According to your theory)
Can you understand now why I said what I said and I am not on any high horse as you put it.
Put it another way if the truck driver had admitted running into the mini bus to the law and he’d also told the law that the mini bus driver had done nothing wrong and the law already had evidence to support that then wouldn’t the truck driver have been charged at that point 
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The question is we’ve got all the details and news concerning the truck driver but why is there nothing concerning the mini bus driver.Even if that means just saying that the mini bus driver isn’t in a fit state to be questioned .
toby1234abc:
Why are lorry drivers always arrested but not car drivers at scenes of accidents?
As in unlike the car driver that was arrested yesterday for suspect of causing death from dangerous driving after an ambulance crashed into a tree yesterday in the new Forrest killing a paramedic and the elderly patient they were carrying and injuring 3 others?
They will only arrest a driver if they suspect he is to blame, and rear ending some one would be pretty good grounds to arrest him.
pt6615:
I don’t think that these cameras make videos in that sense. They only make snapshots every certain time… As far as I know.Correct me if I’m wrong.
I also have the impression of that the minibus must had been travelling at a very low speed or stationary because it didn’t fly far off so not much initial speed…
I’m not sure about the capabilities of that particular camera but there is certainly
a camera there. Maybe it does only do stills.
The minicoach did slide on its side so that must make it more difficult to calculate
its actual speed at the time of impact.
It’s a pity that we rarely hear the circumstances surrounding accidents such as this.
Perhaps we could learn something from them.
There was a crash for cash scam some of you might have seen on the national news month or two back where the scammers locked on the brakes on a motorway and a woman rammed into the back of their car. A following van unconnected to the incident then ploughed into the back of the woman killing her. He ended up doing a 12 month stretch for careless driving. 
Its common knowledge the one who ram’s the rear is traditionally to blame but there seems to be a culture now where no matter what the circumstance, ie someone locking up the brakes or who blatantly contributes heavily to someone shunting them still makes the rear driver at fault. IMO that is harsh as per above example.
Would be very surprised if the mini bus driver didn’t end up being charged with something unless he was the last in a static queue of traffic which sounds doubtful as there would be other vehicles involved. The trucker will almost certainly be charged with careless probably dangerous purely down to him being the one who rammed.
The lorry driver has already been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving.He as been given bail as per norm.
ajt:
There was a crash for cash scam some of you might have seen on the national news month or two back where the scammers locked on the brakes on a motorway and a woman rammed into the back of their car. A following van unconnected to the incident then ploughed into the back of the woman killing her. He ended up doing a 12 month stretch for careless driving.Its common knowledge the one who ram’s the rear is traditionally to blame but there seems to be a culture now where no matter what the circumstance, ie someone locking up the brakes or who blatantly contributes heavily to someone shunting them still makes the rear driver at fault. IMO that is harsh as per above example.
Would be very surprised if the mini bus driver didn’t end up being charged with something unless he was the last in a static queue of traffic which sounds doubtful as there would be other vehicles involved. The trucker will almost certainly be charged with careless probably dangerous purely down to him being the one who rammed.
There’s a big difference between running into a vehicle that’s travelling or stopped ahead,regardless of what it stopped for,as opposed to running into a vehicle that’s made an unsafe lane change at a point and/or at a speed differential which makes a collision inevitable.If what you’re saying is correct then anyone could change lanes or enter a motorway from a slip road or a hard shoulder without bothering to use their mirrors or accelerate up to a safe speed,because any accident involving being hit from behind would be the fault of the driver who ran into the vehicle in front. 
albion1971:
The lorry driver has already been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving.He as been given bail as per norm.
But the important bit,that seems to shoot down your view (if I’ve read it right ) is that the truck driver obviously hasn’t admitted running into a vehicle in a way which would make him subject to actually being charged for the offence which he was arrested on suspicion of.Nor is there any sufficient evidence,so far,to charge him regarding same.In which case there’s no more reason as to why the truck driver should be under any more suspicion of causing the accident than there is the mini bus driver. 
I was listening to this story on Radio 2 and Heart FM yesterday, very sad for thse poor girls, looking at photos on the lap top later it was clear that the lorry rear ended the bus. The driver of the lorry was arrested on the scene.
Death by dangerous driving surely.
Carryfast:
albion1971:
The lorry driver has already been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving.He as been given bail as per norm.But the important bit,that seems to shoot down your view (if I’ve read it right ) is that the truck driver obviously hasn’t admitted running into a vehicle in a way which would make him subject to actually being charged for the offence which he was arrested on suspicion of.Nor is there any sufficient evidence,so far,to charge him regarding same.In which case there’s no more reason as to why the truck driver should be under any more suspicion of causing the accident than there is the mini bus driver.
It is not my view.It is FACT and not Fiction.
Pat Hasler:
I was listening to this story on Radio 2 and Heart FM yesterday, very sad for thse poor girls, looking at photos on the lap top later it was clear that the lorry rear ended the bus. The driver of the lorry was arrested on the scene.
Death by dangerous driving surely.
Doesn’t look that way to me.
To me the areal photo shows potential skid marks on the chevrons and also from lane one down the bank. If they were created by the minivan, then the minivan driver was at fault and the lorry driver reacted as best he could under the circumstances.
Pat Hasler:
I was listening to this story on Radio 2 and Heart FM yesterday, very sad for thse poor girls, looking at photos on the lap top later it was clear that the lorry rear ended the bus. The driver of the lorry was arrested on the scene.
Death by dangerous driving surely.
Depending on the reasons as to ‘why’ the truck rear ended the mini bus that would be the relevant charge.That reason is obviously,as yet,unknown at least until/unless the driver has been charged with the offence he was arrested on suspicion of.At which point the law says that the driver of the truck can still contest the charges in court or plead guilty.So far there have been no charges in this case.In which case the final sentence in that post above obviously isn’t relevant,so far.
Surely the driver was arrested due to the accident circumstances and witness statements given to the police at the scene. I disagree with those that keep harping on about not posting about it and giving an opinion on the crash, this is a forum after all, without opinions you may as well switch it off.