Prevent all non British/UK registered lorries boarding ferries and trains in France. Since over 70 % of the lorries in Operation Stack are foreign registered, after a very short while there won’t be any trying to go back, resulting in no more operation stack. This would make life easier for UK hauliers since they would still be able to travel - and much more easily too. They would also gain substantially from an increase in trade.
Since we don’t manufacture anything in this country an longer no factories will be short of supplies. The shelves will soon empty in the supermarkets - but of what? … mainly fruit and veg which is out of season in the UK, which we can well do without. The supermarkets will be forced to source their supplies from UK producers meaning a net benefit to the country. The losers? the packhouses which prepare the foreign food - and they are mainly staffed bu foreigners; maybe this might encourage them to go back home.
cav551:
The supermarkets will be forced to source their supplies from UK producers meaning a net benefit to the country. The losers? the packhouses which prepare the foreign food - and they are mainly staffed by foreigners; maybe this might encourage them to go back home.
It’d ■■■■ the country up big time, it needs those ‘foreigners’ & the UK can’t produce enough to provide for its own…!!!
We could adjust… easily.
And at least he (cav551)comes up with a solution…Which is more than any other bugger has !!!
Sometimes…the simple ideas are the best.
Or… Some form of direct action to match the French ? Fight fire with fire ?
If you don’t think we produce anything here anymore, I suggest you look around any of the steel works around Scunthorpe, they load scores per day all for Europe. The same could be said of the various perkins and ■■■■■■■ plants. Britannia metals at Northfleet. All the same
Good point Ovlov … Yes…there is an imbalance but the UK produces many high quality products
in many varying fields.
I am involved in two companies that Export daily to all over the world… One indeed to China !
Talk the UK up…Not down
Similar… Booked a Sprinter at 11.00 am… Driver arrived at 13.00 and loaded two pallets himself
for Katowice, Poland. Polite, Clean…offered a CMR…and delivered to a depot at 11.00 am next day.
No…not with Stack going on…and this Ex Daventry.
OVLOV JAY:
If you don’t think we produce anything here anymore, I suggest you look around any of the steel works around Scunthorpe, they load scores per day all for Europe. The same could be said of the various perkins and ■■■■■■■ plants. Britannia metals at Northfleet. All the same
Everyday in August I’m going to be picking up parts for Scania. English engineering still means something.
OVLOV JAY:
If you don’t think we produce anything here anymore, I suggest you look around any of the steel works around Scunthorpe, they load scores per day all for Europe. The same could be said of the various perkins and ■■■■■■■ plants. Britannia metals at Northfleet. All the same
Everyday in August I’m going to be picking up parts for Scania. English engineering still means something.
That’s my whole point, don’t get me wrong, I’m far from pro eu and I’m firmly centre right, but the scare mongering the likes of the daily mail use is ■■■■■■■■. Take it from someone in the import/export game, British manufacturing is doing ok
Prevent all non British/UK registered lorries boarding ferries and trains in France. Since over 70 % of the lorries in Operation Stack are foreign registered, after a very short while there won’t be any trying to go back, resulting in no more operation stack. This would make life easier for UK hauliers since they would still be able to travel - and much more easily too. They would also gain substantially from an increase in trade.
**Since we don’t manufacture anything in this country an longer no factories will be short of supplies.**shelves will soon empty in the supermarkets - but of what? … mainly fruit and veg which is out of season in the UK, which we can well do without. The supermarkets will be forced to source their supplies from UK producers meaning a net benefit to the country. The losers? the packhouses which prepare the foreign food - and they are mainly staffed bu foreigners; maybe this might encourage them to go back home.
wrong. My place had to stop the production line for a shift across the whole site and cancel the overtime over the weekend due to shortages because of this.
Cars that have reached the end of the line with parts missing have to be stored until the missing parts come in. We had a brief 2 weeks ago saying there were 6000 cars waiting for parts to be finished in a car park, they basically had £300 million pounds sat on a car park they couldn’t sell yet
god only knows how much this is costing the economy, I know that if our production lines get stopped due to a DHL error (they run the supply chain) they get fined £20k a minute!
that may sound like a lot but just for example, a car roles off the line in my building every 90 secs and the rangerovers have something like a 60k profit margin.
and thats just one factory! I bet the cost to the economy is eye watering.
Non integrator air freight giant Volga Dnepr are eying starting up the first long range air freighter outfit in the UK in years (since BA world turned to space sourcing on other carriers). One could hope its due to the tiny UK export air freight market up swinging but suspect it’s import and transshipments through Europe that seed the interest.
Are the returning euro trucks actually backloaded with anything?
Each truck that comes here loaded, and returns empty - costs the UK the following:
(1) A round trip for a UK driver - wage not earned
(2) UK produced goods/produce NOT sold to the continent
(3) Our subscription to the EU that we’ve paid - only to get no return on
(4) Foreign truck derved up on the continent, tramped around the UK, and never re-fuelled here, before returning across the sea to derv up over there. UK taxes raised - NIL.
(5) No road duty paid by foreign truck
(6) No entry visa paid for by foreign haulier
(7) Fines for stowaways will only be paid by UK based trucks who can’t get away with the rap. How much in £2500 per bod fines has ever been raised from foreign truckers/hauliers?
(8) Foreign trucks don’t pay parking fines, don’t pay crossing tolls, and park behind the concrete walls under motorway bridges for free overnighting - without consequence. If a UK truck tried that - they’d be fined on the spot no doubt.
(9) Do the authorities in this country have any real, and reliable way of telling if a foreign trucker’s paperwork is valid? The driver could be an escaped criminal, licence revoked in one or more countries, or not licenced to carry the goods which are currently on the wagon (eg dangerous, or restricted import licence items…)
And to think we PAY the EU for the right to donk our money away like this…
Cross channel freight in my mind should be run like Cobelfret do - you never hear a peep of trouble out of them, and it’s another one of those “dead man’s shoes” jobs and all by the looks of it.
If we LEAVE the EU, then non-eu trade routes would actually improve further, and we’d be free to re-establish other trade routes of our own choosing.
Maybe it’s time to cut France out of the loop outright - not because I’m Francophobic, but because France is in Germany’s pocket, and most of the trouble out there right now can’t end - because Germany won’t allow the French to do what needs to be done, and close their own borders to mickey mouse traffic.
