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Helluva mess 
FH driver was bloody lucky 
Yes agree,he was lucky to get out alive,I’ve been up there this mornin, did 170km in 7hours driving.
Shoshaye:
Yes agree,he was lucky to get out alive,I’ve been up there this mornin, did 170km in 7hours driving.
Change of subject, but is your user name anything to do with having 40 winks?
Went eastbound past it at lunch time, the two steel lorries were the secondary accident in the melee after the shunt further up the road, and both were in a right state with drivers very lucky to come out in one piece after both their loads had come through the cab
Can’t understand why the road is still shut w-bound though, its not due to reopen till 1am 
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stuck in it for 2hrs this afternoon, how long do the police need to do investigations ■■? this is just taking the ■■■■.
And as for the accident…simple, going to fast for the weather conditions,no sympathy!
and once again the Truck Net UK accident investagation team has solved yet another accident,
this is starting to ■■■■ me off now, accident do happen and yes we can speculate what happened, but we don’t what happened, TTX boy, did you see it happen?
yes weather would of had something to do with it more than likely. but their’s gonna be more to it than meet’s the eye
what would you blame the accident on if it was 20 degrees in the middle of june? weather?
anything could of happened, weather, mechanical fault, driver error, another vehicle etc
Lawsons Haulage?? Always had a nice fleet for flat beds. Hope driver’s ok.
you are obsessed with mechanical faults, stop looking at hgv drivers through rose tinted spectacles,this accident happened in a snow storm and it’s obvious that he ran into the back of the other truck.
When was the last time you heard of all the brakes on a truck failing ■■? i rest my case !
TTX boy:
you are obsessed with mechanical faults, stop looking at hgv drivers through rose tinted spectacles,this accident happened in a snow storm and it’s obvious that he ran into the back of the other truck.When was the last time you heard of all the brakes on a truck failing ■■? i rest my case !
only 2 weeks ago i had all trailer wheels lock up up as going down a1 lucky no one was behind me but could of been same situation , and turned out that 2 chambers had failed caused all lot to lock up , before start pointing the fingure give it day or so and see what comes out , if driver is at fault there called accidents but quite frankly a driver is in hospital and all you give flying ■■■■ about is pointing the finger ■■■■ me sideways we have our own investigation team team leader TTX boy , and by that boy been the oprative word .
TTX boy:
And as for the accident…simple, going to fast for the weather conditions,no sympathy!
That’s that sorted then. Next! 
I have sympathy because no driver is a pre-programmed machine. People make mistakes, its call having a brain instead of a computer processor. No one who drives all of their working hours, day after day, week after week, month after month and year after year is going to be completely without mistake, fortunetely most of us get away with something minor and unfortunetely, every once in a while it has much worse consequences. The day accidents on the road stop happening is the day we all stop driving.
robinhood_1984:
I have sympathy because no driver is a pre-programmed machine. People make mistakes, its call having a brain instead of a computer processor. No one who drives all of their working hours, day after day, week after week, month after month and year after year is going to be completely without mistake, fortunetely most of us get away with something minor and unfortunetely, every once in a while it has much worse consequences. The day accidents on the road stop happening is the day we all stop driving.
I do agree…
BUT, how many times have you seen lorries going far too fast for the conditions 
How many times have you seen lorries sitting right up the arse of the lorry in front
If a vehicle is not going too fast or following too close it will not hit the vehicle in front as it will be able to stop in plenty of time, no matter what happens in front of it and that my pedigree chums is a fact that nobody can dispute 
However, on today’s overcrowded roads, it is almost impossible to drive at a safe distance from the vehicle in front, so therefore you will always be driving too fast for the conditions, so we go back to Robinhood’s explanation, driver’s are only human, simply taking the time to check your mirrors is enough time for things to go horribly wrong in heavy traffic, in which case it would be an accident. I.E. nobody’s fault 
Wouldn’t surprise me if VOSA were involved re unsafe loading. I know it’s a big thing for them at the moment do they won’t like to see a load if steel cone through the headboard!
xfmatt:
Wouldn’t surprise me if VOSA were involved re unsafe loading. I know it’s a big thing for them at the moment do they won’t like to see a load if steel cone through the headboard!
It never fell off though did it 
The two steel lorries were only the secondary accident, the initial shunt was further down the road where a DAF 7.5 tonner PO Van had shunted into the back of something else, possibly the ferry trailer that was minus its unit with its rear end semi destroyed on the hard shoulder several hundred yards further up, but being a ferry trailer it would be hard to tell if the damage was fresh 
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Those snow storms were something else though, I went through a couple and although they were visible from a distance away it was a complete white out within seconds of entering them
If you look carefully at the photograph. You can see steel plate on the road!
So I would say load security may be looked at
TTX boy:
stuck in it for 2hrs this afternoon, how long do the police need to do investigations ■■? this is just taking the ■■■■.
And as for the accident…simple, going to fast for the weather conditions,no sympathy!
Oh 2 hours poor you, imagine if this was a family member ie wife, child in this accident and they had life threatening injurys. You would want the police to find out how this happened and why wouldn’t you so let them do there job. I was 10years at the recovery company who went to this last night so still speak to the lads there. And the smiths of scotter has gone into the back of the Lawsons wagon carrying railway sleepers and tracks. This has pushed the load through the Lawson cab luckily he is ok but the smiths drives has lost both legs in this. So 2 hours of you being stuck in this has no comparison to this.
Big Joe:
The two steel lorries were only the secondary accident, the initial shunt was further down the road where a DAF 7.5 tonner PO Van had shunted into the back of something else, possibly the ferry trailer that was minus its unit with its rear end semi destroyed on the hard shoulder several hundred yards further up, but being a ferry trailer it would be hard to tell if the damage was freshThose snow storms were something else though, I went through a couple and although they were visible from a distance away it was a complete white out within seconds of entering them
The 1st accident happened about a mile in front of me yesterday morning, i saw a calor gas tanker swerve onto hard shoulder to miss the traffic in front, it happened that fast, I stopped about 30m short of car in front, and was sat with hazards on, no brakes on waiting for somebody to hit me, it was very unnerving, after a while stood, there was a snow storm, these yesterday, were like Big Joe says, something else, visibility was down to less than a artic length, I’ve never seen storms like these before. Going past the accident going eastbound in afternoon, and seeing the Lawson’s fh and the Smiths Daf, I thought that must have happened not far behind me, thank whoever, that no one was killed, must admit I gave my missus’s a big cuddle when I got in last night…
newmercman:
robinhood_1984:
I have sympathy because no driver is a pre-programmed machine. People make mistakes, its call having a brain instead of a computer processor. No one who drives all of their working hours, day after day, week after week, month after month and year after year is going to be completely without mistake, fortunetely most of us get away with something minor and unfortunetely, every once in a while it has much worse consequences. The day accidents on the road stop happening is the day we all stop driving.on today’s overcrowded roads, it is almost impossible to drive at a safe distance from the vehicle in front, so therefore you will always be driving too fast for the conditions, so we go back to Robinhood’s explanation, driver’s are only human, simply taking the time to check your mirrors is enough time for things to go horribly wrong in heavy traffic, in which case it would be an accident. I.E. nobody’s fault
Yes were all human but unfortunately in the now PC correct UK we don’t have accidents anymore but incidents, and if blame can be apportioned to someone then that incident becomes a crime scene and a charge for an offence will be made.
So as usual the motorist is a sitting target for plod who are after easy work to massage their crime clear up rates.
As for the time the motorway was closed, I can only sumise that plod were waiting to see if someone survived their injuries before commiting to a full investigation of the wreckage. When I went past around 4 hours after the smash there was nothing going on apart from traffic wombles standing around having a disco and trying to out Hi Viz each other, and a plod who was escorting ab loads past the wreckage.
And todays winker (sp) of the week is TTX Boy (don’t worry too much though as someone else is bound to engage the keyboard before his brain soon)