commercialmotor.com/news/hig … taking-ban
It seems that its only on the uphill sections. Can’t see it working though to be honest unless there is active police enforcement, according to the article it seems that will be “self policed”. I’ve seen on other sections of road that have this ban that HGV’s tend to ignore then restrictions.
Taken from the article…
‘and is expected to improve journey times by about three seconds.’
Do they mean minutes and how do they know how much time it’s going to save anyway?
What parameters are used in the calculations?
I wonder what they mean by self policing?
Hope that people don’t do it because there aren’t enough coppers to police it?
A.
I’ve seen very few drivers ignoring the overtaking bans on the A14 and the A42 and the M11 when it was in was in force, and probably the few that do are the arrogant drivers who break all other laws as well.
Adonis.:
I wonder what they mean by self policing?Hope that people don’t do it because there aren’t enough coppers to police it?
A.
Self policing refers to each individual polices them selves not to do it, not having non police policing it.
weeto:
I’ve seen very few drivers ignoring the overtaking bans on the A14 and the A42 and the M11 when it was in was in force, and probably the few that do are the arrogant drivers who break all other laws as well.
what overtaking ban… 
So why don’t they ban cars from the near side lane in the restrictions?
weeto:
Self policing refers to each individual polices them selves not to do it, not having non police policing it.
So what I said then, hope that people don’t do it.
They don’t ban cars from the nearside lane because there will always be one halfwit wanting to do 52mph in his Renault Espace.
A.
I come down the M11 in morning rush hour on a regular basis. There’s far too much “Elephant Racing” going on among the trucks themselves. Foreign trucks don’t seem to know how to “drop a couple of clicks” on cruise, and tippers can only think with their “job ‘n’ knock” mentality it seems.
What’s the bloody hurry everyone? I’m nearing the end of my shift, but I don’t find the need to pull out for a slow overtake with the inevitable build-up of huffing and tutting drivers behind me!
I suggest that it’s “No overtaking for trucks AT ALL” during day shift hours, defined on the sign: 6am-8pm should do it.
Winseer:
I come down the M11 in morning rush hour on a regular basis. There’s far too much “Elephant Racing” going on among the trucks themselves. Foreign trucks don’t seem to know how to “drop a couple of clicks” on cruise, and tippers can only think with their “job ‘n’ knock” mentality it seems.What’s the bloody hurry everyone? I’m nearing the end of my shift, but I don’t find the need to pull out for a slow overtake with the inevitable build-up of huffing and tutting drivers behind me!
I suggest that it’s “No overtaking for trucks AT ALL” during day shift hours, defined on the sign: 6am-8pm should do it.
Totally agree, I’ve come to the conclusion that its easier to run at 87k’s leaving a few spares k’s with which to over take. What realy puzzles me is the mentality that when a driver who’s been cruising at maybe 85k’s needs to speed up when I start to overtake what is that all about 
As for the overtaking lanes, well they’ll be as about as worthless as the ones on the A14, I don’t recall a any day when I’ve not been passed by another truck either east bound or west bound
Winseer:
I suggest that it’s “No overtaking for trucks AT ALL” during day shift hours, defined on the sign: 6am-8pm should do it.
So what happens when you can plod along at 56, and you get stuck behind some stupid company, wincanton, maritime and stobarts that have trucks limited to 52mph
Or what happens when you are running empty and cruse up hills at 56, and you get stuck behind a tanker struggling to hold 35mph
tommymanc:
Winseer:
I suggest that it’s “No overtaking for trucks AT ALL” during day shift hours, defined on the sign: 6am-8pm should do it.So what happens when you can plod along at 56, and you get stuck behind some stupid company, wincanton, maritime and stobarts that have trucks limited to 52mph
Or what happens when you are running empty and cruse up hills at 56, and you get stuck behind a tanker struggling to hold 35mph
Trucks that do 56 can also do other speeds like 52 and sit behind. We’re only talking about the stretch between Cambridge and Stanstead FFS.
I say again “What’s the bloody hurry?”
We’re only talking about “Slow overtakes” here.
If it’s doing 35-50 'cos it’s a laden and going up-hill, then you’ll steam past it at 56, and there won’t be a problem.
It’s this “gentle drift” up a Waitrose’s bum that seems to get the eyebrows raising on the “can’t possibly kick it off the limiter!” brigade.
I admit that it does NOT help when you get some chump who’s doing around 40 and then speeds up to 55 just as you get level with their backside on the attempted “fast” overtake you might have originally planned… 4x4 drivers to this to me a lot, especially those old crappy ones running on chip fat with the big tyre blocking their entire view…
Never have I taken any notice of these…What are you supposed to do when you have no limiter?
tommymanc:
Winseer:
I suggest that it’s “No overtaking for trucks AT ALL” during day shift hours, defined on the sign: 6am-8pm should do it.So what happens when you can plod along at 56, and you get stuck behind some stupid company, wincanton, maritime and stobarts that have trucks limited to 52mph
Or what happens when you are running empty and cruse up hills at 56, and you get stuck behind a tanker struggling to hold 35mph
Lol I’m one of them 52 plodders, I can do 55 but don’t want to.
Winseer:
I come down the M11 in morning rush hour on a regular basis. There’s far too much “Elephant Racing” going on among the trucks themselves. Foreign trucks don’t seem to know how to “drop a couple of clicks” on cruise, and tippers can only think with their “job ‘n’ knock” mentality it seems.What’s the bloody hurry everyone? I’m nearing the end of my shift, but I don’t find the need to pull out for a slow overtake with the inevitable build-up of huffing and tutting drivers behind me!
I suggest that it’s “No overtaking for trucks AT ALL” during day shift hours, defined on the sign: 6am-8pm should do it.
Whats the hurry? Do you only do local work?
When ive 2000km to do its on the 100kph limiter all the way… sod ‘dropping a couple of clicks’…
Get a life people, it’ll be on “certain” stretches of the hilly parts of the M11, (which is a 2 lane motorway) to stop traffic build up. We are not talking 20 miles, 10 miles overtaking bans. Go drive in Germany and suffer, their no-overtaking bans go for miles and miles and miles and that’s on the flat !!
I use the m11 soutubound every morning huntingdon to Stansted 4:30pm time, the trouble is the “momentum monkeys” won’t back off when a truck is overtaking them on a down hill section, mainly the down hill stretches after a11 junction.
The 2 stretches I’m sure there be ban as I see problems at these bits ever morning, heading southbound
M11/a11 merge up hill section, everyday see elephant racing then if overtaking truck hasn’t finished overtaking before brow of hill the momentum monkey in lane 1 let’s their fully freighted truck run to 60mph.
The other bit will be that short steep climb before Stansted where m11 dips.
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Pehaps we need to back off the performance capability of modern lorries to a level more in line with the capability of the aimers. Knocking off the odd 200 horsepower should be enough along with getting rid of the devil’s invention…cruise control.
cav551:
Pehaps we need to back off the performance capability of modern lorries to a level more in line with the capability of the aimers. Knocking off the odd 200 horsepower should be enough along with getting rid of the devil’s invention…cruise control.
Cruise control saves fuel as your foot isnt up and down on the pedal to keep a steady speed. best invention ever. You can never have enough power, knock power ratings down 200hp and we’re back into the eighties.
My old F7 was a great truck but many gear changes needed at the then 38tonne, i wouldnt want it now…
Does cruise save fuel, coupled with an auto box its up and down the bloody gears and resumes full throttle to resume set speed.
I suspect these overtaking bans are the thin end of the wedge and are just the forerunner to many more such restrictions being trotted out.
Its inevitable, too many people in the country and still arriving, too many vehicles on the road to service the requirements of a constantly increasing population on a limited overcrowded land mass, it’ll all come to complete gridlock at some point.
Its what we’ve been voting for nationally for 30 years.