Maybe statistics do not tell the truth but the fact of the matter is far too many so called professional drivers have accidents due to their bad driving and that includes lorries and coaches.
95% of accidents are driver error and that is far too high.
How do others perceive tailgating? Half a dozen trucks (other types of vehicle are available) all on the limiter with a minimal gap between them (eg M6 s/b j7 on the run down to j6 at night) all with no chance in hell off stopping or (like me, after learning the hard way in years gone by but slightly different circumstances) feeling that (even with a gap of 100meters or so) if it all goes pear shape up front, you might still run into the back of what’s in front of you but will probably come out with nothing more than a full nappy and a ■■■■ load of explanations and paperwork to do? My opinion (some might agree, others may not) if you can’t stop safely, without hitting what’s in front, you’re to close. I don’t/have no need to tear about at night but I do have a need to get home to the wife in one piece. Remember the tankers that had a little ■■■■■■■ the back, praying that her dad would drive safe or something? Every trailer should have that on the back doors these days, along with ‘if you can read this, you’re to close’, with varying distances/size of writing and chances of survival = 0%/50% etc and Roads Research bods or whoever should actually test and update the stopping distances of loaded artics etc. 100 meters of motorway is covered in between 3.5-4 seconds roughly…could you stop in time…safely? I’m not preaching (might sound it) but to be seen as ‘professionals’, we/some/all of us need to start acting/driving/behaving like one
Are some people jealous of coach drivers because they get free food & drink in the services?:lol::lol:
Pimpdaddy:
Are some people jealous of coach drivers because they get free food & drink in the services?:lol::lol:
That’s why they are all fatter ■■■■■ than the lorry drivers. 
Actrosman:
How do others perceive tailgating? Half a dozen trucks (other types of vehicle are available) all on the limiter with a minimal gap between them (eg M6 s/b j7 on the run down to j6 at night) all with no chance in hell off stopping or (like me, after learning the hard way in years gone by but slightly different circumstances) feeling that (even with a gap of 100meters or so) if it all goes pear shape up front, you might still run into the back of what’s in front of you but will probably come out with nothing more than a full nappy and a [zb] load of explanations and paperwork to do? My opinion (some might agree, others may not) if you can’t stop safely, without hitting what’s in front, you’re to close. I don’t/have no need to tear about at night but I do have a need to get home to the wife in one piece. Remember the tankers that had a little ■■■■■■■ the back, praying that her dad would drive safe or something? Every trailer should have that on the back doors these days, along with ‘if you can read this, you’re to close’, with varying distances/size of writing and chances of survival = 0%/50% etc and Roads Research bods or whoever should actually test and update the stopping distances of loaded artics etc. 100 meters of motorway is covered in between 3.5-4 seconds roughly…could you stop in time…safely? I’m not preaching (might sound it) but to be seen as ‘professionals’, we/some/all of us need to start acting/driving/behaving like one
+1 If other drivers thought like you and I the roads would be a far safer place.
Pimpdaddy:
Are some people jealous of coach drivers because they get free food & drink in the services?:lol::lol:
Ha ha could well be the case with the mindset of some.
They get to go faster on motorways as well!
albion1971:
Pimpdaddy:
Are some people jealous of coach drivers because they get free food & drink in the services?:lol::lol:Ha ha could well be the case with the mindset of some.
They get to go faster on motorways as well!
Unlike the one who smashed his coach up yesterday!! lol 
I wonder if coach drivers’ perceived aggression comes as a result of continually being held to ransom in the middle lane by the idiotic limiter war types?
I saw two lorry ‘drivers’ on the A66 who, despite obviously gaining on a slower truck on the dual sections, waited until they were almost within touching distance before even checking the mirror to see if they could pull out. On finding they couldn’t, one locked one on of his trailer axles up and the other stood on the brakes while yanking the wheel hard left. By Volvo Jay’s logic that means all truck drivers are half-witted idiots who wouldn’t know what forward planning is if it kicked them in the ■■■■■■■■.
No, only half, presuming you didn’t do the same and you didn’t see any other lorries on that road 
OVLOV JAY:
I hate coaches. The drivers seem in general to be the worst on the road. I won’t even let my kids travel in them on school trips. If they can’t go with a parent, they ain’t going
I fully agree m8 ,I’ve been bitched for my comments on here before on this subject and I couldn’t give a ■■■■ .
yorkshire terrier:
Had a national express tailgate me with my baby in the car at weekend in roadworks and I was going faster than 50,
Then he pulls in to outside lane and tailgates the car infront,that didn’t move so he shot back across all lanes under took and started to hound the next batch of cars.
There’s bad car,bus and truck drivers but when your carrying passengers you should be sensible
Just going slightly off topic, but if the coach driver was able to undertake you, then surely your lane discipline wasn’t all it should be? “Keep left unless overtaking” and all that!
Born Idle:
if the coach driver was able to undertake you, then surely your lane discipline wasn’t all it should be? “Keep left unless overtaking” and all that!
+1, unbelievable the amount of drivers that don’t get this…
OVLOV JAY:
No, only half, presuming you didn’t do the same and you didn’t see any other lorries on that road
Like I said, I was using your logic. Methinks because coaches can go faster than you, you are jealous, as a member of the Big Trucker club.
No jealousy here, although I think limiters are a problem. I think coaches should be limited less than lorries, to discourage the tailgating. You see the coaches up and down the M1, 50 kids on board, at least 10 hanging over the back of the seat, none wearing seat belts, oblivious to the fact the driver is 10ft off the back of a fully loaded trailer. If nobody can see the potential pit falls of this, who am I to argue, and if I won’t let my kids on a coach because I’m jealous of speed limiters, I’ve just got to laugh at that suggestion. I’m sure half the people frequenting the forum just like to argue, for the sake of it, and have no real stand point on half the issues
I use this coach company (National Holidays) about 5 times a year and I have no problems with them. I always sit at the front as well.
I’ve never said every coach driver is bad, but you can’t vet them, so I won’t take a chance with my kids lives. And to prove I’m not all bad, you see more Nat ex drivers acting like dicks because they’re the biggest firm
OVLOV JAY:
No jealousy here, although I think limiters are a problem. I think coaches should be limited less than lorries, to discourage the tailgating. You see the coaches up and down the M1, 50 kids on board, at least 10 hanging over the back of the seat, none wearing seat belts, oblivious to the fact the driver is 10ft off the back of a fully loaded trailer. If nobody can see the potential pit falls of this, who am I to argue, and if I won’t let my kids on a coach because I’m jealous of speed limiters, I’ve just got to laugh at that suggestion. I’m sure half the people frequenting the forum just like to argue, for the sake of it, and have no real stand point on half the issues
Well if you are not jealous (your posts quite clearly suggest you are) you are certainly in the minority of your view of coach drivers on this forum.
Why would limiting coaches discourage coaches from tailgating? It would make it worse.
Why would a coach tailgate a truck when it can go faster? Why not just overtake? ( unless YOU are lane hogging of course)
Did you drive in the days before speed limiters? I somehow doubt it or you would know that speed limiters were and are used as an excuse for tailgating and consequently it became more prevalent.
Before the introduction of speed limiters there was far less tailgating.
The fact is there are good and bad coach drivers.Good and bad lorry drivers.Good and bad car drivers.
Trouble is there are too many bad drivers in all classes and some do not even realise they are the bad ones.
There really is no jealousy, why do people think there is? And read what you just wrote albion, because you answered your own question. If the lorries were faster, the coach couldn’t tailgate. Answer honestly now, how often do you see a coach in lane 1? Hardly ever I bet, they’re always plowing up lane 2, hence the tailgating when a truck is overtaking. And it’s not lane hogging to over take. For someone who bangs on about driving standards so much, I can’t get my head around the fact that you’re like the law making loonies that see the carriage of corn flakes more important than the carriage of people. And I don’t like cyclists, enlighten me how I’m jealous of those then
OVLOV JAY:
There really is no jealousy, why do people think there is? And read what you just wrote albion, because you answered your own question. If the lorries were faster, the coach couldn’t tailgate. Answer honestly now, how often do you see a coach in lane 1? Hardly ever I bet, they’re always plowing up lane 2, hence the tailgating when a truck is overtaking. And it’s not lane hogging to over take. For someone who bangs on about driving standards so much, I can’t get my head around the fact that you’re like the law making loonies that see the carriage of corn flakes more important than the carriage of people. And I don’t like cyclists, enlighten me how I’m jealous of those then
You remind me of carryfast, stuck in a groove with only your views counting. Why not answer my questions? Did you drive before speed limiters?
Try to imagine it from a coach drivers point of view instead of just your own biased view.
How often do you see a lorry overtake another lorry when the difference in speed is minimal? How long does the overtake last? Does not give anyone the right to tailgate but that is half of the problem. Bad driving from 2 types of so called professional drivers.
You seem to have all the answers to stop coaches tailgating but tell me what do we do about all the trucks that do it everyday? It is far more evident from trucks than coaches.
Regarding the carriage of goods or people it makes no difference. Any professional driver should drive safely and responsibly no matter what they are carrying. Your point of view seems to suggest coach drivers have to drive properly while it does not matter for anyone else.
What a surprise you do not like cyclists either. Why not? Because they slow you down or because some cycle like idiots.
It seems everybody on the road is an idiot apart from you and judging from what you say in your posts you are far from perfect.
No I did not drive before limiters, my opinions are not biased. I don’t see how the lorry driver is unprofessional for overtaking, last time I looked it wasn’t illegal. Tailgating is though. And they do it because if they left a safe gap, they’re worried another lorry will pull into it